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Was Hitler a Communist?
A Whig Manifesto ^ | October. 31, 2011 | Chuck Morse

Posted on 10/29/2011 7:53:58 PM PDT by Chuckmorse

Little is known about Hitler before 1920 as many who knew him in his early years were murdered in the 1934 Nazi purge known as the night of a thousand knives. Additionally, files about Hitler’s life in Vienna were likely expunged when the Nazis entered the city in 1938.

One persistent rumor about Hitler, not proven, was that he was a male prostitute in Vienna where he lived in the years leading up to his move to Munich and the outbreak of the world war in 1914. It is known that he lived in Vienna as a bohemian artist and that he associated with the artist community. Hitler had inherited money from his late father and as a result he never had to work.

This left him with enough time to study politics and, according to his own autobiography, Mein Kampf, he immersed himself in Marxist studies. In spite of his brave actions during the war, actions which earned him the Iron Cross, he was never promoted higher than the rank of corporal. There has been some speculation that this lack of promotion might have been due to his communist associations or politics. The truth will never be known as his war records disappeared.

After the armistice of November, 1918, Hitler returned to Munich around the same time that Kurt Eisner, a left-wing leader of the Independent Social Democratic Party of Germany (USPD) declared Bavaria to be a free state and a Socialist Republic on November 8, 1918. Eisner, who was subsequently assassinated on his way to submit his resignation to German authorities on February 21, 1919, had overthrown the seven centuries old Wittlesbach monarchy and had formed an alliance with the Soviet Union.

Eisner’s assassination was followed by an uprising that led to a brief and violent Bavarian Soviet Republic under Eugen Levine which lasted from April to May, 1919. A photograph has survived that seems to indicate that Hitler marched in Kurt Eisner’s funeral procession. The Freikorps, made up of German army personnel returning from the war, and under the command of German General Franz Ritter von Epp, responded to the attempted Soviet takeover in Bavaria by marching into Munich in May, 1919. The short lived Bavarian Soviet Republic was crushed, many of its leaders were executed, and thousands of its irregulars were imprisoned.

Along with thousands of other soldiers, Hitler was arrested and imprisoned assumedly for his support of the Soviet uprising although the exact reasons for his arrest have never been clear. Hitler, assumedly seeking to make a deal to win his freedom and to save his reputation, volunteered to serve the German government as a spy and to identify other soldiers who had supported the two Bavarian socialist regimes. Hitler thus began working for an official commission investigating the Bavarian uprisings. It can be assumed that Hitler knew the various subversives involved in the Soviet inspired attempted coup as why else would the German authorities entrust him to infiltrate these cadres? One question that will likely remain unanswered was how many of Hitler’s friends, who might have taken part in the Soviet conspiracy, joined him in the nascent German Workers Party, later to be known as the Nazi party.

Bavarian authorities asked Hitler infiltrate the small and recently formed German Workers Party in 1920. It is reasonable to assume that the German authorities were concerned that the new party might be a communist cell and their might have been reasons for this suspicion. Hitler was impressed by the party leader Anton Drexler who favored a strong central government, what he called a non-Jewish version of Socialism, and a strong spirit of fraternity amongst all Germans.

Thus was born the nationalist strain of socialism that would become the trademark of the German Nazi State. Drawing inspiration from the same European enlightenment font that gave birth to Communism, Nazism patented socialism in one state as opposed to the Communist model which was a one world socialist collective. The German language is structured in such a way that when an organization has two names the second name is the formal name and the first name is a descriptive qualifier. Thus the term National Socialist was understood to mean the socialist party that was a nationalist socialist party.


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KEYWORDS: adolfhitler; communism; communist; hitler
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To: central_va

I liked Rush’s definition: “The difference between Socialism and Communism, is that Socialists let you live.”


21 posted on 10/29/2011 8:17:26 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... http://www.fda.gov/ucm/groups/Ming the Merciless)
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To: Chuckmorse

no. Hitler was no Communist, he was a socialist


22 posted on 10/29/2011 8:20:16 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Flag_This
“Little is known about Hitler before 1920 as many who knew him in his early years were murdered in the 1934 Nazi purge known as the night of a thousand knives.”
Pretty sure that should be “night of the long knives.”


On the night of the long knives the radical Brown Shirt Homosexuals who were Hitler's street thugs were liquidated, FWIW.

23 posted on 10/29/2011 8:27:08 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Chuckmorse

Apparently, as an aftereffect of Spanish colonialism, there is a shortage of last names in the Phillippines, causing all kinds of problems with record keeping, credit ratings, criminal records, and so on. To fight the confusion parents resort to giving their children unusual and unique first names. An article I read some years ago mentioned a fellow whose first name was Hitler, which doesn’t resonate in that culture the same way it would in the West.


24 posted on 10/29/2011 8:27:53 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Chuckmorse

Hitler had a funny name before he changed it.

Alois Schicklgruber became Adolf Hitler.


25 posted on 10/29/2011 8:32:28 PM PDT by cruise_missile
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To: Chuckmorse

Hitler considered Marxism as the political creature and creation of Jews [Marx, Trotsky, Zinoviev, etc], and as internationalist in nature. As an anti-Semite and a German [one might say Pan-German] nationalist, he abhorred Marxism. Adolf Hitler was NO Communist.


26 posted on 10/29/2011 8:32:35 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Chuckmorse

What’s the difference if he was a Fascist, Marxist, Leninist, Socialist, Hitlerist(?), or a Communist? They’re all dictators, and that everybody puts Fascist on the right side of the political divide is a travesty.


27 posted on 10/29/2011 8:32:40 PM PDT by wastedyears (Attaaack Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch)
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To: rdcbn

Ernst Rahm was one of Hitlers early supporters and was dragged out of a bed he was sharing with another man that night.


28 posted on 10/29/2011 8:33:22 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: TBP

Hitler admired their propaganda, and took the red [which he considered a revolutionary color] for his flag [and posters] to “stick his finger in their eye”, so to speak.


29 posted on 10/29/2011 8:34:22 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: cruise_missile

Aloios Schickelgruber was Adolf Hitler’s father, and had been born illegitimate. Long before Hitler weas born, Alos’ father, Gregor[?] Hitler, recognized Alois as his child, and was then put on the bierth certificate as his father, and Alois Schickelgruber became Alois Hitler; all long before the birh of HIS son, Adolf Hitler.


30 posted on 10/29/2011 8:38:22 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Chuckmorse

You might want to bookmark this. It has a wealth of real time info:

A Psychological Analysis of Adolph Hitler
His Life and Legend
Walter C. Langer
Office of Strategic Services
Washington, D.C.

With the collaboration of-
Prof. Henry A. Murr, Harvard Psychological Clinic
Dr. Ernst Kris, New School for Social Research
Dr. Bertram D. Lawin, New York Psychoanalytic Institute

http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hitler-adolf/oss-papers/text/profile-index.html


31 posted on 10/29/2011 8:38:38 PM PDT by marty60
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To: cruise_missile
Alois Schicklgruber was actually Adolf Hitler's father.
The family name was changed before Adolf was born.
32 posted on 10/29/2011 8:41:20 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: unkus

Ernst Roehm was the Chief of Staff [and de facto commander] of the Sturmabteilung, or SA (the Brownshirts). He was also a very left-wing Nazi [the SA were known as ‘beefsteak Nazis’-brown on the outside, red on the inside].

Roehm kept calling for the ‘second revolution’, and wanted to incorporate the German Army into the SA as a sort of revolutionary militia. He refused to quiet down when told to by hitler, Hess, and others. He was seized at a gathering of SA leaders oredered by Hitler. Hitler himself participated in Roehm’s seizure. He was taken to stadelhelm prison where, after he refused the opportunity to kill himself, he was murdered by Theodore Eicke, the commandant of Dachau, and one or two other SS officers.


33 posted on 10/29/2011 8:45:31 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr

And to attract them. Communism and Naziism are closely related.


34 posted on 10/29/2011 8:47:22 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: lurk
The Nazis were more specific about who they killed, so they had a body count of only 6 million

The Nazi body count is much higher than that. Jews alone lost 6 million but every European nationality involved in the war could claim victims.
Russians had 20 million dead although I have long suspected Stalin was responsible for many of those.

35 posted on 10/29/2011 8:50:51 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: Old Seadog
I never could understand why the Nazis were considered as an extreme right wing organization and the Communist Party is an extreme left wing group.

The answer is very simple: from the 1920's until the fall of the Soviet Union, "left wing" meant supportive of the goals of the Comintern, "right wing" meant opposed to the goals of the Comintern. Thus, Tories, Republicans, Nazis, monarchists, fascists, Democrat Cold Warriors, Christian Democrats, classical liberals, nationalists of just about any description, were (and by linguistic inertia still are) called "right wing", while Labourites, Democrat pacifists, Communists, socialists, social democrats (esp. of the "nuclear freeze" supporting type), etc. were and are called "left wing".

36 posted on 10/29/2011 8:54:04 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Chuckmorse

So he was sort of a misfit/nerd before becoming a community organizer and graduating to politics? sounds familiar.


37 posted on 10/29/2011 8:59:07 PM PDT by omega4179 (We can't wait! for the end of an error.)
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To: The_Reader_David
Interesting.
Why were the Chicoms thought of as left wingers when they were Russia's deadly enemies for much of the Cold War?
38 posted on 10/29/2011 8:59:12 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: Chuckmorse

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39 posted on 10/29/2011 9:00:38 PM PDT by ken21
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To: omega4179

Nerds are at least smart and proficient in something technical.


40 posted on 10/29/2011 9:41:22 PM PDT by wastedyears (Attaaack Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch)
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