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I'm Starting to Lean Towards Newt
http://libertarian-neocon.blogspot.com/2011/11/im-starting-to-lean-towards-newt.html ^ | libertarian neocon

Posted on 11/08/2011 1:55:48 PM PST by libertarian neocon

At the beginning of this race, I really didn't think I would consider supporting Newt Gingrich for the nomination. He had to resign as speaker, seems to want to reach across the aisle at random moments (like the commercial with Pelosi on a couch!), has a sordid personal life (with multiple marriages and affairs) and even put down the Ryan plan as "right wing social engineering" and "too great a leap". However, two things really have changed my mind. First, his performance in debates. He has extensive knowledge on what seems to be all issues and even gives historical examples as to why he believes what he believes (wouldn't it be great to have a candidate that the media doesn't automatically paint as stupid or uneducated?). He is the type of candidate who might actually convince people to become Republicans, unlike most of his competitors, who can't really say why they believe what they believe (or in the case of Romney, don't actually believe in anything but sound bytes that get them elected). I think if he gets the nomination and faces Obama he will absolutely cream him, by pointing out the fallacies and inconsistencies in his arguments & policies. Another thing he did in the debates that I really liked was that he constantly stayed above the fray, not attacking his fellow Republicans and instead focusing, and trying to keep the other candidates focused, on Obama.

The second main reason, I'm thinking about supporting him is just the process of elimination. There are really only three candidates who can articulate their positions and not stare blankly at the camera when given a complicated question, Romney, Gingrich and Santorum. Romney is polished but I have ZERO confidence he will actually enact conservative principles. When he was Governor of Massachusetts, only 25% of his judicial appointments were even Republican. With a court at 5-4, we can't afford a single misstep there. Also, I find it hard to believe he will fight tooth and nail to repeal Obamacare. He will try to "fix" it, taking out certain provisions and adding others. Not my idea of what needs to be done. Santorum wouldn't be a bad choice, he is definitely conservative and can explain why he believes what he believes. Unfortunately, he comes across as mean and has been a bit too much on the attack in the debates which I think is holding him back in the polls.

The other candidates have become a joke. While I like Herman Cain on a personal level, he is absolutely horrible at thinking on his feet (which is something I would think a President would have to do from time to time). Heck, he even has trouble thinking about the right way to deal with things with 10 days notice (Politico gave him 10 days notice before going public with the harassment story). It just boggles the mind how his story could change 3 times in one day when he had so long to prepare for it. Also, in the debate with Newt Gingrich he passed on the question about "premium support" or "defined benefit" plans for medicare. The problem with passing is that this was a debate on entitlements and so he should know what those terms mean. Even if he didn't, you should be able to figure it out right? It's not exactly rocket science. It's a good thing Newt was so gracious or he would have pointed out that someone who wants to be President of the United States should know such things. Also, given his lack of experience in government, it really is theoretical as to how he will act when in power. When given actual choices that will effect others, will he consistently choose the conservative one? His answers on abortion and the Palestinian right of return make me nervous.

Rick Perry really is starting to remind me of W especially when he does that deer in headlights impersonation when he gets a question he doesn't know how to answer. It really doesn't inspire confidence. Nor did his attempt to disqualify Romney on the basis of his landscaper using illegals. I'm also not convinced as to how conservative he really is. He just had to be conservative in Texas to be elected, who knows what he will be like with blue staters in the mix. Bachmann, while a relatively good speaker, is very gaffe prone and has a strange propensity to make up stuff as she goes along.

So there you have it. Newt definitely has his issues, but when it boils down to it, he is a great speaker with a much more conservative record than Romney (I'll probably only be pissed off part of the time with Newt). And that might be all it takes. I wouldn't want perfection to be the enemy of the good.


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KEYWORDS: 2012; blogpimp; gingrich; obama; romney
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To: Hot Tabasco

Amen, brother. I’d sooner tar and feather their RINO asses than look at them any more. One day, the collective “Tea Party” establishment will come to realize their origin is not based on peaceful protest against extreme injustice, but borne out of rebellion which eventually had to become violently final.


61 posted on 11/08/2011 3:09:34 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: libertarian neocon

Just say No to Newt


62 posted on 11/08/2011 3:13:11 PM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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To: libertarian neocon
I'm trying to keep this level and even handed:

I've been against Newt because of his hopeless belief in his ability to work with the opposition. Don't much care about divorces and such so long as they stay outside of the governmental sand box.
In the event that the RNC succedes in sticking us with Romney, or with the Bush-shadow that is Perry, I'll need heavy sedation in order to vote at all.
Ron Paul is a stale joke that wasn't very good to begin with. Drugs would NOT get me to the voters booth.
Herman Cain could be a great VP or cabinet member, I'd vote for him in an instant if he was the GOP candidate. But (a) he'd be carrying Obambam's luggage overseas and, more critically, (b) now that he's been Clarence Thomas'd, there will be enough residual doubt to tank his chances for the nomination. (Reflecting on the Meg Whitman campaign and loss, Cain's "what took you so long" reply to Allwaysred was priceless but probably destined to fail.)
I love Michelle Bachman as a congressperson and Tea Party stalwart. But, she's failed to overcome the debate's relegating her to "other" and in that failure left herself in the second ranks (where the RNC wants her to be).
I won't address Huntsman, he's there as a filler; kind of like those little plastic lumps full of air that come in Fed Ex packages.
I actually like Santorum but think that he falls in the gray zone between career politician and engine of change. If that does not make sense, too bad, but I'd certainly vote for him.

Having said all that, Newt's debate performances have been awesome and Santorum has been pretty steady.
So I'm leaning to either Newt or Santorum and would be happy (and surprised) if Cain would accept he number two spot where he could develop some needed skills.

63 posted on 11/08/2011 3:15:23 PM PST by norton
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To: libertarian neocon
And the way he is responding is just not inspiring confidence.

What's been your experience in dealing with these kinds of accusations that makes you an expert on how he should deal with them?

Given the all out assault by the MSM, I think he's doing very will.....keep in mind, there's nothing he can say or do that will keep the media and folks like you out of his face as long as it creates readership from the headlines.

Readership, that's what it's all about..........

And to prove my point, it wasn't until Gingrich's daugher came out with her column last week denouncing the decade long accusation against Newt that he served his "dying" wife with divorce papers while she was on her death bed in the hospital that many folks here, myself included, were ever made aware of the truth.

We're political junkies here and do our best to keep informed and I believe we do a good job of it. The rest of the American population are only privy to what is fed them by the MSM and as far as Cain is concerned, all they are going to be fed are the accusations.........

One only has to look at the recent NPR article that was posted today regarding the latest accuser who is reported to be a Republican when in fact she is a contributor to the DNC........Think the NPR readership will ever be aware of the truth? And how many other MSM outlets will eventually pick up the story with the same lie?

64 posted on 11/08/2011 3:28:50 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: libertarian neocon

I wish I could be enthused about any of the choices at this point but I’m not.


65 posted on 11/08/2011 3:33:22 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: libertarian neocon

I also like Newt. Very impressive debating skills. He would make a decent VP. The adultery thing however is very damaging, as is the sofa/Pelosi issue, which i suspect most Americans will not forget.


66 posted on 11/08/2011 3:44:59 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: tumblindice

LMAO


67 posted on 11/08/2011 3:45:18 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (OccupyMinefield, you communist filth!)
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To: libertarian neocon
Dont you remember how he changed his story three times the day these first came out?

Here's a photo of one of the latest accusers, Sharon Bialek, taken about a month ago at a Tea Party event.......Wonder why the smile on her face, was it from being groped in the crotch over a decade ago?.....Who knows, the thread is available.


68 posted on 11/08/2011 3:48:37 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Sudetenland

And if Romney gets the nod, will you stay home?


69 posted on 11/08/2011 3:50:12 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: tumblindice

Good ole Sarge from FMJ. Wish he were running for the gop nod.


70 posted on 11/08/2011 3:54:45 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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71 posted on 11/08/2011 3:55:15 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: eeevil conservative

“he’s my husband”...

So I see, some that FReep together, sleep together!


72 posted on 11/08/2011 3:57:40 PM PST by Carl from Marietta (Cain, there's a new sheriff in town.)
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To: libertarian neocon

No Newts is good Newts.

Few people, if any, have done as much economic harm to this country as Newt Gingrich. Perot’s 3rd party bid was just as much a referendum on Gingrich’s antics in congress as it was Bush balking on his “no new taxes” pledge. Running Gingrich at the top of the ticket would be disastrous for the GOP, IMO.

Anyone who just can’t help themselves from nominating an establishment prig would be better served voting for Romney. He’d at least stand a chance in the general election.


73 posted on 11/08/2011 4:01:56 PM PST by CowboyJay (Cain is able.)
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To: CowboyJay

All I’ve got to say about this is, if Newt is unacceptable, then there is no one left for whom I can vote. Guess I will have to pass on voting for president this time around. Sarah, where are you?


74 posted on 11/08/2011 4:17:03 PM PST by WVNan (!)
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To: WVNan

Newt is not ‘unacceptable’. Those insisting on a purity test for every Republican candidate have someone in their mind to support who could not pass such a etst. what they’re doing is playing the ‘candidate by default’ game. What the fools do not realize is, such tactics destroy the momentum to throw the commie barry bassturd out of office. But they don’t care. They’re establishment Republicans and don’t really want to be winners in their selfrighteous tantrums. The ahllamrk of these default pleaders is their quick reverting to their purity tests for whomever you want to support if it is not their chosen one. The leftist media does the same thing, yet these establishment Republicans don’t seem able to see that they are mimicking the vile leftist.


75 posted on 11/08/2011 4:27:03 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: libertarian neocon

Newt proposes good ideas but doesn’t deliver. Take a look at Rick Santorum. He’s a real Conservative with real ideas who knows how to get things done.


76 posted on 11/08/2011 4:28:18 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I do not believe that is Buy a lick ... unless Herman has lost a few inches in height. But that was a nice try


77 posted on 11/08/2011 4:28:58 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
I do not believe that is Buy a lick

It's not, I realized the error after I had posted it and I've asked the Mods to delete the post but they haven't .....sorry

78 posted on 11/08/2011 4:33:52 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: All

Newt worships at the altar of Global Warming...and that I cannot abide.


79 posted on 11/08/2011 4:36:12 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: rbmillerjr

That seems to be your idiot mantra tonight. Watch the two videos I linked for you, wuss.


80 posted on 11/08/2011 4:48:21 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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