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What I'm Giving Up in 2012(mega barg alert)
otherwords.org ^ | 16 January, 2012 | Donald Kaul

Posted on 01/16/2012 7:14:32 AM PST by marktwain

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This is a good example of leftist thought. No matter how many facts get in the way of this authors worldview, he will find it impossible to change it. This is a part of the human condition. If is almost impossible to change our basic assumptions about the universe and how it works.

The author has assumed that the levers of power in society are controled by business people with money, and that those people are willing to do enormous evil to get more money. This is a basic tenet of Marxism.

Conservatives generally understand that money is only one aspect of life, and that people have a will to control other people even if it means losing money to do so.

This is why it is necessary to have limits on government power. A business cannot force you to buy its products, but a government can.

It is rather sad to see someone so delusional about reality, but it has become increasingly common on the left.

1 posted on 01/16/2012 7:14:40 AM PST by marktwain
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2 posted on 01/16/2012 7:15:41 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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Do you think our founding fathers would have looked at an assault rifle that can fire at a speed of 400 rounds a minute and said: "Oh yeah, that's a good thing to have around the house"? Or "Everybody should have one"?

You betcha!

3 posted on 01/16/2012 7:17:59 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: marktwain

This guy is soooooooooooo much smarter than the Founding Fathers. We should just burn the Constitution, give this guy a pen, and say “Tell us how it should be!”


4 posted on 01/16/2012 7:18:38 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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Thanks marktwain.
Ideas like climate change, for example. You and I both know that the earth is heating up, right? Everybody knows that, with the possible exception of oil executives, the owners of coal mines, and Republican politicians. Yet no number of hurricanes, droughts, floods, wild fires, melted glaciers, or columns by granola liberals like me has inspired a somnolent Congress to confront the problem.

5 posted on 01/16/2012 7:19:40 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: marktwain

The writer of this whining screed might very well be the living embodiment of the term “idiot.”


6 posted on 01/16/2012 7:19:40 AM PST by Grunthor (I am a conservative, neither half of the one party represents my views.)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Do you think our founding fathers would have looked at an assault rifle that can fire at a speed of 400 rounds a minute and said: “Oh yeah, that’s a good thing to have around the house”? Or “Everybody should have one”?

The uninformed author is describing a fully automatic weapon, which is already not legal to own.


7 posted on 01/16/2012 7:20:36 AM PST by winner3000 (ss)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Do you think our founding fathers would have looked at an assault rifle that can fire at a speed of 400 rounds a minute and said: “Oh yeah, that’s a good thing to have around the house”? Or “Everybody should have one”?

The uninformed author is describing a fully automatic weapon, which is already not legal to own.


8 posted on 01/16/2012 7:20:36 AM PST by winner3000 (ss)
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To: marktwain

I usually wear spurs around the house. That’s just what we “Forces of Darkness” do.


9 posted on 01/16/2012 7:21:59 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SunkenCiv

—Ideas like climate change, for example. You and I both know that the earth is heating up, right? Everybody knows that, with the possible exception of oil executives, the owners of coal mines, and Republican politicians. Yet no number of hurricanes, droughts, floods, wild fires, melted glaciers, or columns by granola liberals like me has inspired a somnolent Congress to confront the problem.—

That is exactly the one I focused on. It’s a pet issue of mine. I’ve been a “denier” from way back and have compiled a list of literally HUNDREDS of articles debunking the phony science.

But two things really jumped out. First “everybody knows”. This person needs to watch more John Stossel on pretty much any subject and learn the fallacy of such a statement. Second, “Yet no number of hurricanes...”. They are down, nut up.

The whole article is an exercise in filling space with pap and meeting a writing deadline with less than ones best. A lot less - unless the writer truly is an idiot.


10 posted on 01/16/2012 7:25:28 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: marktwain

Doofus is as doofus does

11 posted on 01/16/2012 7:26:14 AM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: winner3000

Me thinks the author would be horrified to know that our founding fathers had to LEASE warships during the revolutionary war from PRIVATE OWNERS.... in other words, if a man had the money and desire to have a warship, he could order it and have it built... the same for cannon... The idea of the second amendment is to have the citizenry capable of and legally allowed to possess, the same weapons our military has.. this includes ships, planes, tanks, cannon and “machine guns” ... this is to allow the citizenry to overthrow a government gone rogue.....but, the libs can’t have THAT now, can they?


12 posted on 01/16/2012 7:27:32 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: marktwain

Quote from the article:

“Do you think our founding fathers would have looked at an assault rifle that can fire at a speed of 400 rounds a minute and said: “Oh yeah, that’s a good thing to have around the house”? Or “Everybody should have one”?”

Yes, dumbass, I think they would say that.


13 posted on 01/16/2012 7:28:48 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: marktwain

I feel like giving up. The GOP has six candidates still running (until 11 today anyhow). Five of them are raging statists and one is a foreign policy idiot.

Willard will be the nominee. Get over it. We’re going to run our own gun grabbing, baby killing, homo loving, big goobermint health caring, Harvard educated elitist against the one currently in office just because he has an R after his name. Don’t worry. Obama is going right back in there because Donald T. Rump will be running as an independent, just like Soros tells him to in order to fulfill Perot’s role as stalking horse for the DUMBASSED AMERICAN VOTERS.

I’ll be voting for the foreign policy idiot, because I believe the greatest danger to American liberty (not freedom, there is a difference), safety and prosperity does not come from the Maoists in China or the Muslims in Iran, but from the unelected and unaccountable Maoists and Muslims currently operating and legislating within our own govenment agencies.

Work on the Senate and work on the House. The rest is hopeless.


14 posted on 01/16/2012 7:29:11 AM PST by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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—Every time some clown would go berserk and mow down a baker’s dozen of his fellow citizens, I would deliver a rant about the idiocy of our failure to do something about the proliferation of guns in our society. —

Q: How often does that actually happen?
A: Not often enough to take guns out of the hands of the rest of us who actually do GOOD with them (like protect ourselves from criminals)


15 posted on 01/16/2012 7:31:03 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: marktwain
The argument I find most absurd, by the way, is the constitutional one. Yes, the Constitution guarantees the right to bear arms. But "arms" back then had as much resemblance to modern weapons as an 18th-century schooner has to a nuclear submarine.

Do you think our founding fathers would have looked at an assault rifle that can fire at a speed of 400 rounds a minute and said: "Oh yeah, that's a good thing to have around the house"? Or "Everybody should have one"?

In that same time frame, a weapon in the hands of US citizen soldiers turned the tide. The long rifle was instrumental in the defeat if Burgoyne and also contributed in other important battles.

The long rifle had as much in common with the smooth-bore musket that the recurve bow has with an atlatl. Incidentally, the musket had a higher rate of fire. By the writer's reasoning, we should have been defeated quickly. Idiot author.

16 posted on 01/16/2012 7:31:50 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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—Did it do any good? Even less than my global warming columns.—

There is good news in that comment: That the author believes that the Global Warming luddites lost.


17 posted on 01/16/2012 7:32:07 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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Truthfully, I’d settle for Donald just “giving up breathing,” myself. Anyone that cannot understand the reason for State Representation (i.e., TWO Senators from each state) doesn’t deserve to call themselves ‘American’.

A curious citation for sure in his reasoning mentioning North Dakota as reason NOT to have two Senators for each state; what’s his explanation for Rhode Island? Hmmmmm? Do Rhode Islanders sniff their farts to keep the methane out of the atmosphere or something?


18 posted on 01/16/2012 7:33:01 AM PST by Gaffer
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"Everybody should have one"?

Methinks they would have preferred TWO.

One for the back, one for the front.

19 posted on 01/16/2012 7:36:43 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: noprogs

I understand how you feel - with respect to the Republican candidate field, it’s as if a circus clown cars drove into the ring and disgorged its cargo.

But I’m not laughing, either.


20 posted on 01/16/2012 7:36:43 AM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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