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Vigorous’ Santorum crackdown may catch Internet porn viewers
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Posted on 03/15/2012 11:00:14 AM PDT by timlot

Internet pornography could conceivably become a thing of the past if Rick Santorum is elected president.

The unapologetic social conservative, currently in second place behind Mitt Romney for the GOP nomination, has promised to crack down on the distribution of pornography if elected.

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To: timlot

Good luck.


51 posted on 03/15/2012 11:33:10 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Jonty30
He will scare everybody and that’s the problem. The liberal media will make him look like a pope and anybody, who cares about freedom, will either not vote or will vote Democratic, even if it’s lead by Obama.

Sure, just like we saw in Mississippi and Alabama, huh? That would explain why he's doing so poorly against Newt. /sarcasm

52 posted on 03/15/2012 11:33:33 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: jonrick46
Exactly.

I always question the objectivity of anything coming from the DC.

Here's an idea for Romney and his pals at the DC, why not play up Romney as the pro Internet porn candidate?

53 posted on 03/15/2012 11:33:51 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: steve86

It’s laudable that people are still interested in basic constitutional principles rather than usurpations based on their personal beliefs. It happens so rarely that it’s comforting even if it is about porn.


54 posted on 03/15/2012 11:34:32 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Jonty30
And this is why he would lose the election. He just cannot help but substitute his personal agenda for the good of the nation.

Is it his personal agenda or as some Freepers claim, his support of big government?

Because getting the government involved in censoring and filtering what we do on the internet would require more government bureaucracy, which leads to, you guessed it, more Big Government!

It does make you wonder though, because anybody who is not functionally brain dead knows that if the government got in the habit of censoring what we do on the internet, they would not stop with porn. Rick Santorum is smart enough to know he'd be opening the door for future liberal administrations to go even further, so you have to wonder.
55 posted on 03/15/2012 11:36:05 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Utmost Certainty

—The GOP electorate is killing this country by supporting this fascist dweeb.—

That right there is a genuine opinion you got.


56 posted on 03/15/2012 11:36:55 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Rational Thought

the Romney camp took your advice. They just released the following video in response to Santroum’s promise to enforce laws on the books.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTM5oGv8hvM


57 posted on 03/15/2012 11:37:14 AM PDT by parksstp (I pick RIck! (If he's good enough for Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, he's good enough for me))
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To: .30Carbine

No, what we’re saying is that you nor Rick Santorum are God and God is not running for President nor is He asking us to elect a national pastor. You are confusing the role of President with the role of a free people. If you need Pastor Santorum as President to keep yourself from watching porn, I feel sorry for you.

I don’t. And besides, saying this kind of thing will give us Obama.


58 posted on 03/15/2012 11:37:33 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: mkjessup
For the naysayers, by all means tell us the benefits to society of the flood of porn that has turned this nation into one gigantic x-rated website?

No.

How about you cite the Article and Section of the US Constitution that makes this an issue for the federal government.

While you're looking for that section, let me cite this one:

Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

59 posted on 03/15/2012 11:37:39 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Jonty30

I am not a supporter of Santorum. I’m scratching my head over why he’s focusing on this instead of, oh, I dunno, the country going bankrupt.

But I think it’s folks like you who forget their history. The obscenity laws were and have been on the books for centuries. CENTURIES.

If you think banning obscenity is the equivalent of the Inquisition, then I’d have to agree with some other folks here....we are definitely too far gone to save.

You look up the America the Founding Fathers gave us. You tell me whether they gave carte blanche to the production and dissemination of obscene materials in this Republic.


60 posted on 03/15/2012 11:37:49 AM PDT by Claud
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To: .30Carbine

The purpose of our government is not to seek God.

The purpose of our government is to recognize and defend our natural right as individuals to seek God as the freedom of our conscience dictates.


61 posted on 03/15/2012 11:38:22 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: timlot

Grumpy Puritan frowning at the sight of "merriment".

62 posted on 03/15/2012 11:38:43 AM PDT by stormer
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To: timlot

Good. I support this 100%. Hard core porn has nothing to do with free speech and everything to do with destroying families, encouraging the objectification of women, and creating addle-brained serfs.


63 posted on 03/15/2012 11:38:54 AM PDT by Antoninus (Goal #1: Defeat Romney. Goal #2: Defeat Obama. If we don't achieve both goals, 2012 is a loss.)
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To: af_vet_rr

anybody who is not functionally brain dead knows that if the government got in the habit of censoring what we do on the internet, they would not stop with porn.

Exactly. How difficult would it be for a future Democrat administration to label THIS place as "obscene"?

64 posted on 03/15/2012 11:40:35 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: dfwgator

LOL


65 posted on 03/15/2012 11:40:35 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: dfwgator

LOL


66 posted on 03/15/2012 11:41:12 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: steve86
If so then this demonstrates the nation is beyond saving. Libertine being substituted for liberty is a real clue. Seems the nation in its laudable form lasted about 200 years.

Exactly. You can either have a republic of mostly moral men, or you can have a dictatorship ruling men addicted to vice.

There is no other way.
67 posted on 03/15/2012 11:41:16 AM PDT by Antoninus (Goal #1: Defeat Romney. Goal #2: Defeat Obama. If we don't achieve both goals, 2012 is a loss.)
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To: .30Carbine
What folks are not grasping is the concept that the economy is in the shape it's in because we have turned away from the God who founded and blessed this nation.

That excuse is good for God-fearing Christians who are willing to vote for a moral crusade in Christ's honor. That number is limited to a very small percentage of the actual electorate, and a campaign along those lines will lose spectacularly.

A more direct and obvious causal relationship can be established between the $14 trillion dollar national debt and the fact that the US government spent $14 trillion dollars more than it had.

68 posted on 03/15/2012 11:43:17 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Antoninus

um, you forgot the word “free” in your little equation there sport.


69 posted on 03/15/2012 11:44:21 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: annieokie
[Well Rick, the dems want YOU for a reason.]

Smart politicians know how to keep their mouth shut and deliver their thoughts and ideas in a subtle manner.

Not Santorum. He blast it out loud and divisive every chance he gets. Especially when he thinks he is the one to beat. His arrogance level goes off the chart.

70 posted on 03/15/2012 11:44:31 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Durus
It’s laudable that people are still interested in basic constitutional principles rather than usurpations based on their personal beliefs. It happens so rarely that it’s comforting even if it is about porn.





      “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
~Founding Father John Adams

What people seem not to comprehend is that America's failure to live up to her potential Constitutionally is directly related to her failure to live up to her potential morally.

71 posted on 03/15/2012 11:44:42 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: detective
Obama is making a fool out of himself

Amazing isn't it? Obama shoots himself in the foot every day and 99% of his policies are crap and this is what we have(candidate talking about porn) to defeat him?

72 posted on 03/15/2012 11:45:11 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: timlot
Hey ayatollah rick, we want government out of our lives, out of our pockets and out of our pants.
73 posted on 03/15/2012 11:45:22 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Claud

The Founding Fathers gave the country to a free people, with the explicit purpose of keeping the national government out of the lives of the people, with people issues being delegated to the authority of the states.

As somebody mentioned, if Santorum is intending to do this, it will not stop at preventing you from looking at gross and disturbing pictures, your conduct on the internet will be completely policed by the feds.

You should know, just from the education system, that when the feds get involved in people issues, it always ends up with the feds promoting its agenda, regardless of whether it is good for the people.


74 posted on 03/15/2012 11:46:45 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Antoninus; steve86
If so then this demonstrates the nation is beyond saving. Libertine being substituted for liberty is a real clue. Seems the nation in its laudable form lasted about 200 years.

Exactly. You can either have a republic of mostly moral men, or you can have a dictatorship ruling men addicted to vice. There is no other way.

You got it, fellas.

75 posted on 03/15/2012 11:47:00 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter

LOL....


76 posted on 03/15/2012 11:48:19 AM PDT by b4its2late (Patience is not a virtue, it is a waste of time.)
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To: Jonty30

Wait... what did the very people who were involved with writing and ratifying the Constitution say about this?

“[A]lthough every immoral act, such as lying, etc., is not indictable, yet where the offence charged is destructive of morality in general; where it does or may affect every member of the community, it is punishable at common law. The destruction of morality renders the power of the government invalid, for government is no more than public order; it weakens the bands by which society is kept together. The corruption of the public mind, in general, and debauching the manners of youth, in particular, by lewd and obscene pictures exhibited to view, must necessarily be attended with the most injurious consequences, and in such instances, courts of justice are, or ought to be, the schools of morals.”

“The defendants are charged with exhibiting and showing to sundry persons, for money, a lewd, scandalous and obscene painting. A picture tends to excite lust, as strongly as a writing; and the showing of a picture is as much a publication, as the selling of a book. Curl was convicted of selling a book. It is true, the indictment charged the act to have been in a public shop, but that can make no difference; the mischief was no greater than if he had taken the purchaser in a private room, and sold him the book there. The law is not to be evaded by an artifice of that kind; if the privacy of the room was a protection, all the youth of the city might be corrupted, by taking them, one by one, into a chamber, and there inflaming their passions by the exhibition of lascivious pictures. In the eye of the law, this would be a publication, and a most pernicious one.”


77 posted on 03/15/2012 11:49:28 AM PDT by Jones511
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To: Jonty30
The nation can be saved, but trying to use morality lessons, when the patient is close to death on the operating table is probably not the best way to do it. Christianity + state sponsorship = inquisitions. Or do you forget your history?

The level of ignorance on this subject here on FR is astounding. Whenever reforms have been successfully accomplished in history, whether it be Rome, China, Byzantium, Persia, the Catholic Church, etc., such reforms have always been accompanied by a general revival and enforcement of moral norms. Indeed, without such a revival, all reforms will FAIL.

In our current state, you can pass all the laws you want and nothing will change. What is needed is a revival of authentic Christian values among the people who will then demand it of their leaders. Anything short will not revive this republic.

And yes, such a revival CAN be initiated from the top down. It can't be sustained that way, but it can be started.
78 posted on 03/15/2012 11:49:28 AM PDT by Antoninus (Goal #1: Defeat Romney. Goal #2: Defeat Obama. If we don't achieve both goals, 2012 is a loss.)
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To: Jonty30
He just cannot help but substitute his personal agenda for the good of the nation.

Restricting obscenity IS for the good of the nation.
79 posted on 03/15/2012 11:50:41 AM PDT by Antoninus (Goal #1: Defeat Romney. Goal #2: Defeat Obama. If we don't achieve both goals, 2012 is a loss.)
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To: Jonty30
One guarantee from Santorum if he is elected, he will try to legislate morality using the power of the Presidency.

The Left will rise up against Santo like they never have before. He will energize their effort to degrees that will astound even the scoffers,

80 posted on 03/15/2012 11:51:09 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: timlot
And simple minded Americans still believe in this moral cop? He will not get the nomination but will give it to Romney. And what is Romney? Who in the freaking world knows.
81 posted on 03/15/2012 11:51:51 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: C. Edmund Wright
And besides, saying this kind of thing will give us Obama.

Pure conjecture on your part. Look at what happened in the recent primaries! I agree the nation is equally divided, but I disagree with your premise that you can have your cake (porn, in this example) and your Constitution, too.

America is divided between those who want to keep their sin - at any cost!

...and those who know where we are headed if we do not repent!

82 posted on 03/15/2012 11:52:05 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: dead
sticking his finger in the dike.

I think that site requires a credit card.

Or so I've heard.

83 posted on 03/15/2012 11:52:43 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (My doctor told me to curtail my Walpoling activities.)
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To: dead

Sort of reminds us of the Women’s “Christian” Temperance Union. Well, no wonder Santo likes Unions so much!


84 posted on 03/15/2012 11:53:17 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Utmost Certainty
The GOP electorate is killing this country by supporting this fascist dweeb.

Hey moron. You have no idea what you're talking about. Actual fascists were all into pornography.
85 posted on 03/15/2012 11:53:27 AM PDT by Antoninus (Goal #1: Defeat Romney. Goal #2: Defeat Obama. If we don't achieve both goals, 2012 is a loss.)
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To: dead
Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

So would it be correct to conclude that in your view, all federal statutes prohibiting or restricting pornography are unConstitutional?
86 posted on 03/15/2012 11:54:35 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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To: dead
Anybody who tries to stop internet porn will be as effective as the boy sticking his finger in the dike.

Anybody who tries to stop internet porn will be as effective as the man sticking his finger in the dyke.

Fixed

88 posted on 03/15/2012 11:55:07 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: cuban leaf

Yours is one of the best posts I’ve read in a long time. Anyone who thinks we can allow an entire generation of kids to be immersed daily in porn and survive as a nation is in a state of denial.


89 posted on 03/15/2012 11:55:15 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: Antoninus
Awesome! A Christian Ayatollah. Yeah, no thanks.

I will fight fascism in any form it shows its face in.

Besides, if there wasn't a demand then porn would be an afterthought. Parents need to be doing their jobs not the government.
90 posted on 03/15/2012 11:55:28 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: dead
Hmmmmm.

I'm no prude, but the days of sneaking into Dad's bottom dresser drawer to look at his copy of "Playboy" are over.

A 10 second search on "Google" will yield pore-level photography that would make a gynecologist blush. Or photographs of topics that I'd never have conceived of as a 12-year old (or frankly, understand now as an adult. I work in IT and once audited a guy who had 1000's of pics of naked Barbie dolls, all neatly catagorized on his laptop. Things that make you go ????????).

Having said all that, you're right in that there are higher priorities. I think that Rick has the right idea, but the wrong time, wrong place, and on the wrong topic. All BO would need to do to get elected is point at him and say: "That guy wants to take your porn away!!!!! Oh, and have some more free stuff."

End of election.

91 posted on 03/15/2012 11:56:22 AM PDT by wbill
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To: .30Carbine

What an offensively shallow analysis and post. Wow.

First, to compare an Alabama and Mississippi primary to a national general election is sophistry, and that’s the kindest word I can think of. It’s naive. It’s foolish actually.

Second, to say that I am offended that Rick would talk about this is not the same as being pro porn. That is another foolish assessment on your part.
Frankly, I do not need the President to keep me from sin. He or she cannot do that anyway, and it’s not their job.

A moral people is not the same as an immoral people who are supposedly constrained by a national pastor as President. The entire notion is laughable.

I am sorry you cannot stay off the porn unless Rickie takes it away from you.
But he will never win an election if he is painted into a corner like that, and he carries that doggoned brush around with him every time he opens his yap.


92 posted on 03/15/2012 11:56:22 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: timlot

yet again the left/MSM/left wing propaganda will use every tactic to scare people or make it look like Santorum is trying to just use social issues when he is talking about other issues much more.

For the record I’m for Newt or hopefully Sarah and Col Allen West comes in and saves the day but this is pathetic by the left MSM to paint him as a social issue nutter.

He has never said he would do this so why will some freepers now jump on this if it is a done deal


93 posted on 03/15/2012 11:56:37 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
This country is about to go bankrupt and he still focuses on moral platitudes.

Not that I would endorse the Santorum approach to porn or endorse Santorum himself - though, unlike Romney I'd vote for him in the general..

All that said, be sure that our economic problems are the result of a breakdown of the family and a common moral ethos. It's not the other way around.

94 posted on 03/15/2012 11:57:01 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Exactly. How difficult would it be for a future Democrat administration to label THIS place as "obscene"?

Ostensibly such legislation is about "protecting the children" or this or that group. Places like Free Republic discuss guns, and the liberals all know that guns kill children just by their very existence, and you can't have children reading about guns, so let's get some legislation going to restrict access to websites that discuss guns!

That's exactly what would happen. More government bureaucracy would have to be created to help censor the internet, and once you create a new government bureaucracy they start casting about for more stuff to do, because more stuff = more funding. And the liberals would start trying to push through all kinds of legislation once they have a Government Internet Censorship Bureau to play with.
95 posted on 03/15/2012 11:57:38 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Jonty30

he hasn’t said he would do this , this is left wing crap and being taken in by idiots on our side and I’m not even a Santorum fan.

Seems today you can post anything on the internet and million s will jump to the wrong conclusions and actually think what they have just read is the truth.

How sad and pathetic


96 posted on 03/15/2012 11:59:37 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
The Left will rise up against Santo like they never have before. He will energize their effort to degrees that will astound even the scoffers,

Big deal. That's what the proudly immoral always do. According to you and Mitch Daniels and the rest of the GOP-e, the proper course of action for the rest of us is to shut up and take it.

Sorry, but no thanks.
97 posted on 03/15/2012 11:59:37 AM PDT by Antoninus (Goal #1: Defeat Romney. Goal #2: Defeat Obama. If we don't achieve both goals, 2012 is a loss.)
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To: .30Carbine
America is divided between those who want to keep their sin - at any cost!

When did it ever work out for the People when a government projected it's version of morality on to it's citizens?

That's no different than the millions slaughtered by the communists.
98 posted on 03/15/2012 12:00:34 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: timlot

Judging by the responses of the Santorum supporters on this thread I have discovered that the nation is ~$16 trillion in debt and on the verge of socialism because grown men look at obscene material in the sanctity of their own homes.


99 posted on 03/15/2012 12:00:40 PM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: Antoninus

> reforms have always been accompanied by a general revival
> and enforcement of moral norms. Indeed, without such a
> revival, all reforms will FAIL.
>
> In our current state, you can pass all the laws you want
> and nothing will change. What is needed is a revival of
> authentic Christian values among the people who will then
> demand it of their leaders. Anything short will not
> revive this republic.
>
> And yes, such a revival CAN be initiated from the top
> down. It can’t be sustained that way, but it can be
> started.
>

Great post, and bears repeating.


100 posted on 03/15/2012 12:00:56 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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