Science Demands Big Government!

Jewish World Review ^ | June 12, 2012/ 22 Sivan, 5772 | Dennis Prager

[jmcenanly]

The quotation of the week last week had to be that of Harvard professor Daniel E. Lieberman in an opinion piece for the New York Times.

Lieberman, a professor of human evolutionary biology, was among those who publicly defended New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's plan to ban the sale of sugared soft drinks in cups larger than 16 ounces.

And he did so using, of all things, evolution.

Now, we all know that humans have always needed — or evolved to need — carbohydrates for energy. So how could evolution argue for Mayor Bloomberg's ban on sugar, a pure carbohydrate?

"We have evolved," the professor concluded his piece, "to need coercion."

[jmcenanly]

Whatever his training and writings, this man is as much a scientists as this man

[ichabod1]

Well, it's not exactly that Mengele wasn't a scientist,he just wasn't much known for running his projects past the Institutional Review Board of the institution where he was conducting his research, or getting informed consents from his subjects. I've heard that much was quietly learned from studying his papers by the allies after the war.

[Da Coyote]

So one devolved group intelligence looks to an even more devolved group intelligence for guidance?

Harvard’s reputation is sinking to that of the Nobel Committee.

[ichabod1]

I think our country would do a hell of a lot better if we could break the lock on the presidency that the Ivy league has had since forever. I don’t want any more Harvard men and Yalie Skull-n-bones. That was one reason I supported Perry for a while - he went to A&M.

[KarlInOhio]

From President Eisenhower's farewell address:

The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present -- and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

[Prospero]

The unholy codependency between government funded elites and other authoritarian rent-seekers together with government-as-its-own-vested interest needs to be smashed.

The soft underbelly of that ancient ruling formula was exposed in Wisconsin, the ruin of the education establishment, where the Progressive atheists still hold their oldest toe-hold, and where we now have more than a century of demonstrable failure as evidence.

Conservatives must absolutely drive a wedge between a voting majority and this codependency or we're heading headlong into revolution.

The primary reason for the latter being that their bland methods do not work, and it isn't that we might wish it to fail, it must eventually encounter a stress that will break it absolutely. It will fail, sooner or later, without the possibility of redemption.

This "authority" who presumes to speak on behalf of "science" is a sodden high priest of a tired false religion.

[ThirstyMan]

Excellent quote!!!

The effort to find a rational foundation for daily living outside of a created universe can lead to some strained conclusions and some scary places.

[Oratam]

Listening/watching Ike’s “Military-Industrial Complex” speech on YouTube, in light of the AGW hustle for bucks, is like hearing it in the light in which it was intended. The left co-opted the speech to serve it’s disarmament agenda. Oh, how they lie.

[I Shall Endure]

The original column is here: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/opinion/evolutions-sweet-tooth.html

[samtheman]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/opinion/evolutions-sweet-tooth.html

(the original slimes piece, from Mengele himself)

[RichardMoore]

Obviously Bloomberg’s law against soda is wrong. And yet dietary science is currently being surpressed because of the economic damage that would be done if the truth be known. It is not sugar that is the main problem. People have known that sugar is empty calories for quite a while now. It is the over abundance of protein from animal products in our diets that is causing the health problems that are rampant in the USA today. Check out Forks Over Knives, either the book or the dvd. All our major illnesses are a result of our American Diet. We have been eating “party food” for too long and the party is about to be over; either one gets sick and dies or one changes and lives.

[samtheman]

So by his rational, we’ve evolved in to two separate groups:

Those who pay for everything and get told what to do.

Those who spend everyone’s money and make all the rules.

That doesn’t sound like evolution to me. That sounds like life under an Egyptian Pharaoh.

The only real “evolution” was the slow working out of the Rights of Man that culminated in the greatest revolution of all times: the writing and signing of the US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution.

And that wasn’t really “evolution” at all, was it? That was free people, exercising their god-given abilities to construct a political system that would enshrine the god-given Rights of Man in documents designed to preserve individual liberty and the concept of individual liberty.

Mr. Lieberman, you troglodyte, please go suck eggs.

[JimRed]

Now, we all know that humans have always needed — or evolved to need — carbohydrates for energy. So how could evolution argue for Mayor Bloomberg's ban on sugar, a pure carbohydrate?

Mastication and digestion breaks starches down into sugars (Glycogen I think might be the main one), which are used as the body's fuel. Getting it pure or getting it processed, you are using sugars. But it's none of Hizzoner's business if you have three 16 ounce cups or one 48 ounce cup.

[KosmicKitty]

I read somewhere, can’t remember the source as it was years ago, that some people had problems with “Gray’s Anatomy” because some of the drawings were done using Mengele’s “volunteers”

Disgusting as his actions were, the stuff he was doing was unique and presented opportunities not found else where.

That’s a real moral dilemma.

[tacticalogic]

"We have evolved," the professor concluded his piece, "to need coercion."

Think he'll remember that when the day comes they have to be "coerced" into leaving us the hell alone?

[PeterPrinciple]

There is an element of truth here. Not the evolution part, but that God created us sheep to have the right master, which has been perverted. This has to be true, it is amazing what some sheep will follow.

the other thought goes to sheep, wolves and sheep dogs:

http://mwkworks.com/onsheepwolvesandsheepdogs.html

[PeterPrinciple]

Which all proves that what the professor really means to say — and more and more college graduates will be taught — is this: “We have evolved to vote Democrat.”

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At the end of the article.

[PeterPrinciple]

What should we do? One option is to do nothing, while hoping that scientists find better cures for obesity-related diseases like heart disease and Type 2 diabetes. I’m not holding my breath for such cures, and the costs of inaction, already staggering, would continue to mushroom.

A more popular option is to enhance public education to help us make better decisions about what to eat and how to be active. This is crucial but has so far yielded only modest improvements.

The final option is to collectively restore our diets to a more natural state through regulations. Until recently, all humans had no choice but to eat a healthy diet with modest portions of food that were low in sugar, saturated fat and salt, but high in fiber. They also had no choice but to walk and sometimes run an average of 5 to 10 miles a day. Mr. Bloomberg’s paternalistic plan is not an aberrant form of coercion but a very small step toward restoring a natural part of our environment.

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It is going to take regulation to get us to a more natural state. So are we evolving or devolving?

[ichabod1]

I now don’t think it’s true. I just read a thing saying he was doing stuff like amputating limbs and injecting chemicals into eyes to try to change eye color. Mostly very brutal and very esoteric - as was most gnazi research. Tried to make two children grow into siamese twins by sewing them together and interconnecting their veins.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks jmcenanly.