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Carrying a gun does not provide ANY realistic possibility of self defense
http://armedselfdefense.blogspot.com/ ^ | 08/28/2012

Posted on 08/28/2012 8:53:28 AM PDT by Sasparilla

Denying that law abiding citizens have a right to carry a sidearm to defend themselves, an anti gun rights organization has published what has to be the most disingenuous post ever to appear on an anti gun website.

The group said last week that, “Carrying a gun does not provide ANY realistic possibility of self defense—the element of surprise ALWAYS defeats the gun carrier.” They call that “Gun fact #1.”

The author of the opinion further states that, an armed criminal will not approach you and challenge you to "Draw." They say that the thug will have the "Drop" on you before you know they are there. They claim that you will make no moves with a concealed weapon to defend yourself as they rob you of your money and take your gun. No, they don't say, “Draw.” It's generally, “Give me your money, your car, your wallet, or if it’s a business, Give me what’s in the till.”

There is no question what the assailant will do with his gun. The only question is what you will do with yours. However, that is a very personal decision made based on the facts of the situation at hand.

There are numerous daily situations across the USA where an armed would be “victim” draws his sidearm and scares off, wounds, or kills his or her assailant, thereby protecting himself, or others, or both.

But, this fringe group would deny you your self defense rights if your life is in imminent danger.

If that writer did just did some research before spouting off, and even perhaps Googled a term such as “Armed citizen shoots robber,” he would have found such headlines as these among 1,490,000 results with just that one search term on the first page:

“Armed Citizen shoots two hapless robbers...

(Excerpt) Read more at armedselfdefense.blogspot.com ...


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1 posted on 08/28/2012 8:53:36 AM PDT by Sasparilla
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To: Sasparilla
No, they don't say, “Draw.” It's generally, “Give me your money, your car, your wallet

At which point, I'd reach into my pocket and pull my revolver and start shooting.

2 posted on 08/28/2012 8:56:28 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Sasparilla

“the element of surprise ALWAYS defeats the gun carrier”
This is true. However it still does not defend gun control laws.


3 posted on 08/28/2012 8:57:08 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: Sasparilla

Does NOT carrying a firearm provide any “realistic possibility of self defense”???


4 posted on 08/28/2012 8:57:55 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Sans-Culotte

I wouldn’t pull, just start shooting.

You can repair the hole in your pocket later.


5 posted on 08/28/2012 8:57:55 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Sasparilla

“They say that the thug will have the “Drop” on you before you know they are there. They claim that you will make no moves with a concealed weapon to defend yourself as they rob you of your money and take your gun. No, they don’t say, “Draw.” It’s generally, “Give me your money, your car, your wallet, or if it’s a business, Give me what’s in the till.”

Here’s how that goes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84IZxWvOWWY


6 posted on 08/28/2012 8:58:42 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: Jonty30

Exactly why I carry a double action only, shrouded hammer revolver in my pocket. Drawing is for movies.


7 posted on 08/28/2012 9:01:17 AM PDT by Bayan
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To: Sasparilla
According to DOJ crime statistics, guns are used 2.5-million times per year to prevent robberies, rapes, murders, carjackings, home-invasions, etc., 99% of the time without a shot being fired.

Gun Facts

8 posted on 08/28/2012 9:02:54 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Sasparilla
Damn. I have erroneously been thinking my carrying a concealed weapon would be a surprise for the bad guy. Maybe my being in CA instead of FL or TX makes my prediction more of a reality.
9 posted on 08/28/2012 9:03:18 AM PDT by onceone (0311, K Co., 3/5 1st Mar Div, RVN '68)
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To: lightman; mylife; Clint N. Suhks; smokingfrog; HonestConservative; TornadoAlley3; ...

Thank God for guns, huh Jerry Ping!


10 posted on 08/28/2012 9:03:32 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: carriage_hill

I was on the Orange Line platform at Tufts after seeing Les Mis with my parents. Two utes wearing red bandanas approached us. I slightly unzipped my jacket and put my right hand inside. They turned around and went back down the platform.


11 posted on 08/28/2012 9:07:54 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Sasparilla
It's generally, “Give me your money, your car, your wallet, or if it’s a business, Give me what’s in the till.”

"Yeah, sure, let me get my wallet out of my back pocket..."

12 posted on 08/28/2012 9:08:48 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: onceone

these guys were suprised by a ccw...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2923743/posts


13 posted on 08/28/2012 9:08:57 AM PDT by Currentriverrat (People are calling our President the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers, that's not allowed is it?)
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To: DMG2FUN

Personally, I think it would be an element of surprise the other way when a gun appeared. Definitely be a big surprise if someone came into my house in the dark. Surprise no. 1 is when my malinois has him by the arm on the floor.


14 posted on 08/28/2012 9:11:12 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: carriage_hill
No, Mr. Crane.

It's "Two to the chest, one to the head. Makes sure he's well and truly ... STOPPED."

15 posted on 08/28/2012 9:11:43 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Kenton

Even with the heavier DAO trigger pull on smaller automatics, I’d stay away from ANY holster that offers no trigger protection, unless you carry unchambered.


16 posted on 08/28/2012 9:13:19 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: KoRn

If someone believes he or she has, “no realistic possibility of self defense” with a firearm, then fine; don’t carry one. But don’t tell everyone else what they can or cannot do. The right to self defense is not contingent on what someone else believes is possible. Why is this so hard to understand?


17 posted on 08/28/2012 9:14:04 AM PDT by Old North State
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To: KoRn

It does if you are Jesse Owens.


18 posted on 08/28/2012 9:16:13 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: massgopguy

Good move! Hope you had a piece, but if the ‘feint’ worked; perfect! (Didn’t work for me in ‘74 when I was robbed and shot, but then I wasn’t carrying. After getting out of the hospital (still carry the .32cal), I’ve carried everyday, since. Won’t be a victim, twice...)


19 posted on 08/28/2012 9:19:14 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: Sasparilla
Lots of assumptions by the anti-gunners to put the honest victim in the worst possible situation. Why not just have an assassin shooting at me with a sniper rifle from a quarter mile away and ask "What's your pistol going to do for you now? Your gun is worthless."
20 posted on 08/28/2012 9:20:10 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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