Posted on 06/01/2013 10:34:19 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
Maricopa County Sheriffs Office Cold Case Posse chief investigator Mike Zullo this morning addressed the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association Convention (CSPOA) being held in St. Charles, Missouri. Much of the information that was revealed by Zullo we have already heard but he also unveiled new evidence that we have not been aware of. Commander Mike Zullo appears in the video at the 36:00 mark. The audio and video from the streaming isn't that good but pay attention very closely.
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Dr. Vieira is of the highest caliber of professors you can get when it comes to constitutional law. Thanks for bringing him to our attention Smokeyblue.
Well, the man they worship and his handlers stop at nothing, even assassitions and mass murder, to further their agend; so the lickspittles at Fogbow are merely following their master.
So what.
The Twentieth Amendment, Section Three addresses the President elect having to prove his/her eligibility to Congress or Congress names a replacement.
Are you trying to argue that the Twentieth Amendment doesn't exist? If it does exist, tell me what it means, word for word.
But X-spurt, Obama is not a legal president because he is not a natural born citizen. Impeachment does not apply. The senators who were removed were not impeached either. Obama’s attorneys, or the Democratic party might take the case to court, in which case you can be sure that the decision in Minor v. Happersett would be visited.
The only reason for natural born citizenship to be in the Constitution is to apply it to presidential eligibility. Obama told us he was a naturalized citizen. Both parties and the courts have stone-walled the issue. Discovery has never been allowed and the Supreme Court, with two Obama appointees, has voted not to hear it. The nation only adheres to our Constitution voluntarily. All three branches have decided to avoid our legal foundations.
The Congressional Research Service commissioned three studies, which were only made public by a leak, to provide guidance for legislators who were being asked about Obama’s eligibility. Mario Apuzzo, who has filed several lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility, only to be thwarted by Sotomayor and Kagan, who would not recuse themselves, has just written an elegant response to Jack Maskill’s CRS papers. The Maskill papers are full of obfuscation, but Mr. Apuzzo analyzes the devices used by Haskill, devices that show the value a little formal logic to lawyers. http://puzo1.blogspot.com
Mr. Apuzzo has also done a thorough analysis of why impeachment is inappropriate for Obama, though appears to be gaining credence as applicable to AG Holder.
Tuketu, if you do a search of the Congressional Record you will see that many congressmen agree with you. There have been many bills submitted attempting to amend the Constitution to correct what may well have been an error, or even political expediency. Leo Donofrio happened across some damning evidence that Justice Gray, who wrote the decision in Wong Kim Ark, incorrectly cited a respected judicial scholar, knowing that he was using an erroneous analysis - what was later determined by the author to be a mistake - in his citation, misconstrued by congress to create anchor babies.
Perhaps some day there will be a correction to the interpretation justifying anchor babies. Today there are too many union employees of our government who depend upon the influx of illegal aliens to justify their employment and lavish benefits. Mexican mothers are crossing our Southern border just to have their babies rendered citizens, and to be born in well-equipped hospitals. I don't blame them, but the law is destroying the health care systems, particularly of the southern states. I won't look it up, but recall that something like 80% of babies born in counties around San Diego and LA are born to illegal aliens.
As with all usurpers, a simple arrest will do. Then, the nearest lamp post.
It is obviously an impossible task to get you to see that you can not take a snippet here and a snippet there out of the Constitution and turn those snippets into your own imagined meaning.
Regardless, no one with STANDING (you do understand the concept of standing, correct?) challenged the BC documentation nobama submitted. Any Congressman could have objected, but none did in either 2008 or 2012. According to Federal Court, only McCain and Romney have STANDING to being any suit challenging his eligibility now.
How far do you think any impeachment would go? Hell, they couldn’t even get the Senate to convict klintoon and he was white and more or less told all of us “So F’ing what” and kept right on being President.
Are you and your chums not able to see, regardless of ANY evidence, from any practical standpoint, this “eligibility” thing is going nowhere?
The best we can do now is to quit jousting at windmills and elect a majority in the Senate and House in 2014 to keep nobama bottled up and to begin reversing the crap he has done to America.
You avoided my question about the Twentieth Amendment, Section Three. Typical Obama troll response. If you can't answer something, deflect. Tell me once again, What does the Twentieth Amendment, Section Three mean?
Just because you don’t get the response you want does not change the facts of the response you got.
None are so blind as those that refuse to see.
You are both correct. Obama is not a de jure POTUS, but he sure as hell is the de facto POTUS, as a look up in the sky will indicate as AF1 flies Barry and Reggie out to another fund-raiser and/or basketball game, and AF2 flies Michelle and the girls on a shopping spree vacation in the opposite direction..
Of course he's not a Natural Born Citizen. Of course the documentation The CCP is desperately trying to get someone other than us to look at is forged. So what? Those allegedly in charge of such matters have placed the man in the office. The courts are telling us that only they, that is the Congress, can remove him from same.
That would still be true if the AG of Arizona or any other state had him arrested for fraud and thrown in prison after a fair trial. There is no "automatic" way to remove a sitting President, even a fake one.
This has led to a national case of 'Cognitive Dissonance' because what is, ought not to be. Most immediate realistic answer?
....elect a majority in the Senate and House in 2014 to keep nobama bottled up and to begin reversing the crap he has done to America.
That way, if the stuff ever makes it to court, we have some faint and remote chance (or prayer) of impeachment before 2016.
We have lived through a so-far successful anti-constitutional coup. Obama has made history.
Thanks for possibly getting this through some heads, more eloquently than I have been able to.
I think the left and nobama in particular are quite happy to see conservatives foaming at the mouth about something that is highly unlikely to be settled, as it takes eyes off their other hand in the cookie jar.
Whatever you say Mr. Boehner.
Hey Ray, ain't nobody saying "fuggedabout" Obama's utter illegitimacy.
Perhaps though, it is just possible that right now everyone here focusing on this issue may not be the most effective way to combat Team Obama's program.
Where is our PROGRAM, our PLAN to implement it, our LEADER to explain it to the voters and get it done? "NOBAMA" is not enough, as The Mormon Milquetoast discovered on our dime.
If we get shot down like dumb ducks and lose in '14, handing the usurper the House and Senate, (and the SCOTUS) we can discuss this ad infinitum in the Big Sis Political Re-Education Camp.
I must disagree. Usurpation of the Presidency is far more consequential than any partisan concern.
No such thing as your "de facto" President. You either are a legal President or you are not. If you are not a legal President, you are a U S U R P E R.
You cannot impeach a non-President, you can only arrest a usurper. We are still frozen at the Twentieth Amendment, Section Three phase as no one has "qualified". Since no one has qualified, an official "legal" term of office has not yet begun. Any member of Congress has the standing to ensure that the Twentieth Amendment, Section Three has been enforced and complied with. It is their duty to do so as their oath from Article Six REQUIRES that it be done. No judge can block them from keeping their oath of office.
We don't need the proof of forgery at all, we simply need ONE Congressman or Senator to demand that proof be presented. We already have proof that it wasn't presented and thus a "failure to qualify" has occurred.
AMEN!
Have you a citizen's arrest in mind? So far we have seen local, state, and federal officials fail in their constitutional duties.
we simply need ONE Congressman or Senator to demand that proof be presented.
We needed:
one (1) state election official in 2007-8.
We needed four (4) SCOTUS justices to agree to hear the appeal.
We needed one (1) County Prosecutor.
We needed one (1) State AG.
The doubt as to the man's legitimacy go back to 2006 and far beyond. Except for The Bar of the State of Illinois, which insisted that this impostor leave their ranks, The institutions have failed. The constitution has been abrogated.
Our government, constitutionally divided into the legislative, judicial, and executive branches has grown another very strong, distinctly unconstitutional arm: the bureaucracies that actually abusively rule us. The executive branch, in alliance with those government agencies, now dominates and regulates American life.
The choice before us is stark: recapture what we can of the elected government and attempt to redress the situation via the Constitution, or armed revolt.
I am not quite ready for Civil War until after the election of 2014. The focus on the man Obama's proven criminality, which has no remedy at present, prevents focus on the actual process needed to be rid of him or at least control him.
A third choice is actually being employed by the states, themselves, nullification. In some ways, this approach will actually one day return the Constitutional balance to our government that the founders intended.
As the progressive agenda was driven by crisis response, so shall the conservative agenda from now on. Target number one right now should be the IRS and it's monstrous tax codes. This agency has given us a weapon to beat it out of existence, along with the Obamacare it was intended to administer. Using lies and deception gave progressives their power. We can use the truth to take it from them.
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