Posted on 09/27/2013 6:20:55 PM PDT by Epsdude
A lot of people have been talking about breaking away from the GOP lately.
ZoNation: No Jeb Bush and No Third Parties: http://youtu.be/q5hmxyceUYQ
But we MUST unite under a true, strong conservative like Cruz. Its hardly worth the bother of voting for someone like Jeb Bush.
I’m not going to vote for a Jeb Bush or Chris Christie no matter what. They can even threaten me with a President Hillary. It won’t matter.
We cannot get anywhere via a third party. What we need to do is get rid of the RINOs and status quo establishment types in the Republican Party and find more Cruzs, Lees, etc, in each state or something close.
You can’t unite the GOP under a “true conservative” because the liberal 55% will bolt, and the working and lower middle class whites who are conservative despise the GOP.
I do not even want the name GOP anymore.
*spits*
I do not know what to tell you.
I said the same about Romney and still get the occasional slap over my decision. Hold your ground, I did and will continue to do so. I refuse to vote against my conscience.
Zo: “You want to talk about taking your country back? How about taking your party back first?”
As usual, he makes a lot of good points to back up his arguments in this video.
In the past I have supported the GOP with what small contributions I could make.
From now on I support the candidate whether it is GOP or Democrat, and the National GOP will never receive another dime from me./
Jeb may be the best of the Bushes, but there is something not very conservative in the family.
NO MORE BUSHES
Getting rid of the “GOP Establishment” which is basically the progressive portion of the GOP is not easy..if it was just McCain getting rid of him would be simple, but more and more keep crawling out of the woodwork..Lindsey Graham, Peter King, Lamar Alexander, the list keeps growing and growing and growing like cockroaches, you get rid of one, and another one pops up..the only way to truly get rid of these vermin is to throw them ALL out of the GOP before the GOP merges with the Dem party and they will both be one in the same
We need Jeb Bush like a moving motorcycle needs an ashtray.
Divide and conquer.
FUGOP
Now and forever.
I finished with the “hold my nose” approach long ago - - didn’t vote for Mittens and I won’t vote for Jeb Bush.
Or Pork Porkie.
Never.
I’ll put it as Zo said, “To many of y’all, for some reason, keep basing your views of the Republican party on people and their deviations instead of basing your view on the actual platform. These RINOs do not define what it is to be a Republican, but you’re letting them.”
Since about 2010, I have described myself as a conservative, NOT a Republican. The Republican Party long ago abandoned us and now we have the likes of Juan McVain, Rinse Prebus and Bawlin’ Boehner calling the shots.
And, the Tea Party backed candidates that we sent to Congress in 2010 have complained bitterly that the GOP-e puts roadblocks in front of them if they don’t toe the RINO line.
Let’s face it - our political system is a mess. For too long, politicians whose sole goal is their own power and their own wealth have long put the country behind their personal and party goals. We can’t restore America to the government the Founders envisioned and created unless/until we flush not only the politicians but the bureaucrats who support them and start over.
Career politicians and bureaucrats are anathema to the Constitution and have corrupted and perverted one of the most unique and innovative political systems on earth. As long as power hungry, greedy politicians are allowed to control their own destiny and stay in office forever, we cannot maintain what the Founding Fathers created.
But, let’s not put it all on the politicians and bureaucrats. We voters also share the blame. We don’t bother to find out who we are electing, we just march in lockstep and select the person whose name we have heard, regardless of what they represent. We don’t know a candidate’s record, his/her influences, past or associates. Had more people paid more attention to zero’s associates and influences in ‘08, we probably wouldn’t have the narcissistic, ineligible, Kenyan-born muslim occupying the WH today.
Lazy voters and criminal politicians who operate outside of the law have brought us to the point we are today. Until we reverse both of those trends, we are doomed to ride this elevator to the third world or beyond.
The party bosses despise conservatives. Even Rush stated many times the Republican Party is ‘embarrassed by the Tea Party’.
They tightly control the party; who gets money and help.
Note what they did to Palin, O’Donnell, Tancredo, Dornan, Quayle, Watts, Santorum, West, and now Cruz.
Reform the party? Perish the thought.
You are correct, it won’t be easy but it has to be done.
Uh, I hate to tell you this, but the "platform" is meaningless.
The platform has not been supported (in action) by any of the Presidential candidates in the past quarter of a century. The platform is not supported by more than 10 GOP Senators (maybe not more than 5), and it is not supported by more than 50 GOP Members of Congress.
The platform is meaningless bilge to fool the rubes, to conceal what the party is really all about.
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