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Bank Run Fears: Customers Being Forced to Provide Evidence For Why They Need Cash
SHTF Plan ^ | 1/25/14 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 01/25/2014 4:29:20 PM PST by Kartographer

HSBC is imposing restrictions on large cash withdrawals raising a number of red flags. The BBC reports that some HSBC customers have been prevented from withdrawing large amounts of cash because they could not provide evidence of why they wanted it. HSBC admitted it has not informed customers of the change in policy, which was implemented in November for their own good: “We ask our customers about the purpose of large cash withdrawals when they are unusual… the reason being we have an obligation to protect our customers, and to minimise the opportunity for financial crime.” As one customer responded: “you shouldn’t have to explain to your bank why you want that money. It’s not theirs, it’s yours.”

“When we presented them with the withdrawal slip, they declined to give us the money because we could not provide them with a satisfactory explanation for what the money was for. They wanted a letter from the person involved.”

Mr Cotton says the staff refused to tell him how much he could have: “So I wrote out a few slips. I said, ‘Can I have £5,000?’ They said no. I said, ‘Can I have £4,000?’ They said no. And then I wrote one out for £3,000 and they said, ‘OK, we’ll give you that.’ “

He asked if he could return later that day to withdraw another £3,000, but he was told he could not do the same thing twice in one day.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: bankrun; banks; cash; cashwithdrawals; hsbc; preparedness; preppers
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To: AlexW

It already has, in the sense that your local branch probably doesn’t have much money on hand. Those mini-branches in grocery stores and shopping centers seldom have more than three thousand available for withdrawal.

Several months ago I tried to cash a check for about $3600 and my local branch told me I had to go to headquarters in my town: they simply don’t keep that much around. Possibly $5k to handle ordinary customer transactions. A $3600 withdrawal would take their reserves down too far. So I had to drive into town.


61 posted on 01/25/2014 6:58:35 PM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: Kartographer

I had an account with HSBC more than 15 years ago. They were a total pain in the Obama to deal with.


62 posted on 01/25/2014 7:01:04 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Delta 21

“Closed a sizeable 401k last month...”
Oh, I am not the only one!
Just that I am too old for the penalty.
:-)


63 posted on 01/25/2014 7:08:20 PM PST by elpinta (Jer. 10:23 - It really holds true!)
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To: Kartographer

““So I wrote out a few slips. I said, ‘Can I have £5,000?’ They said no. I said, ‘Can I have £4,000?’ They said no. And then I wrote one out for £3,000 and they said, ‘OK, we’ll give you that.’ “ “

What about writing a slip that says: “I’m closing out my account RIGHT NOW and I want ALL my money RIGHT NOW.”?


64 posted on 01/25/2014 7:55:54 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Kartographer
Something very similar happened to us a few weeks back. We wanted to close out an account. Give us $10K. Nope, can't do it. They were very nervous at this point. They said they could do $5K and next time we needed to make sure we let them know a full week in advance before making such a withdrawal. M&T Bank. She emphasized a full week notice. Lovely.

That was a smallish branch in a city of 64,000. Wait until there's a run. Three people will clean them out.
65 posted on 01/25/2014 8:01:24 PM PST by tenger (It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -Will Rogers)
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To: VerySadAmerican

“Why do you want to withdraw the money?”

“Because it’s mine.”


66 posted on 01/25/2014 8:02:07 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: usconservative

M&T Bank wanted to know a week in advance when we wanted to withdraw a larger sum (over $5K I presumed). Happened less than a month ago to us.


67 posted on 01/25/2014 8:04:10 PM PST by tenger (It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -Will Rogers)
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To: SisterK

“Around 15 years ago I had to wait two weeks to get $14k (of my own money) from a credit union in a big city.”

Credit unions are the worst, or at least they used to be when I dealt with one decades ago. Had to make advance request to get more than $350.00 cash. Their loan rates were worse than conventional banks, their staff was snotty to the nth degree, and on Friday afternoons, you’d have to stand in a single-file line for 15 minutes or more before you could get up to a teller. I finally wised up and got the hell out.


68 posted on 01/25/2014 8:08:16 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Kartographer

What folks fail to recognize is that when you hand money over to a bank, you cease to own that money per se. You become an unsecured creditor of the bank, and they retain the right to limit withdrawals.

If the bank goes bust, repayment of your money is secured by depositors insurance up to the limits of that insurance. You might sleep better knowing that the FDIC has enough funds to cover (I believe) less than 1% of all bank deposits before they in turn would go bust. And then you would be covered by the faith and credit of the federal government. Or said another way, dear leader, harry reid, john boehner and nancy pelosi have your back.

And in exchange for all this, your deposits earn less than 1% in interest.


69 posted on 01/25/2014 8:32:15 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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70 posted on 01/25/2014 8:34:35 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: M Kehoe

“Because of the breach in our debit card at Target, Chase has limited our transactions to a hundred dollars...purchase, and withdrawal. We need a larger amount, we have to confirm (i.e. phone) or go into the bank. “

Sounds like you need a credit union instead.


71 posted on 01/25/2014 8:37:47 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: Kartographer

It’s none of their blankity-blank business what I want the money for.

It’s MY money. If I want it, I have the right to it.

And if I am going to do something nefarious with it and don’t want to attract attention, I will know enough to take out smaller amounts without raising red flags.

Now, granted, most thieves are stupid, but from the sounds of it, the bank officials who put thin in place are stupider.


72 posted on 01/25/2014 8:40:32 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Or “Fred’s Bank.”

“Hi, I’m Fred....I have a bank....you got $1500, I’ll put it here in my white suit....White suit front pocket.”


73 posted on 01/25/2014 8:40:39 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: grumpygresh

“Why not just write out a check for some PMs, or put it on the charge card. Then, if you like you can sell some of the gold to a dealer for cash.”

The future of banking.


74 posted on 01/25/2014 8:41:38 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: laurenmarlowe

Another example of what I’ve discussed with you before...


75 posted on 01/25/2014 8:55:04 PM PST by NYTexan
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To: Kartographer

Like the old saying. If you walk past a bank and you see a line...........get in it.


76 posted on 01/25/2014 9:03:06 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: Mr. Jeeves

haha


77 posted on 01/25/2014 9:41:33 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Pelham; bboop
“HSBC is the abbreviation of Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation, established 1865”

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http://www.hsbc.com/about-hsbc/history/hsbc-s-history

HSBC is named after its founding member, The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited, which was established in 1865 to finance the growing trade between Europe, India and China.

Named after its founding member, before they became a conglomerate -not just "named" and not "an abbreviation of". Do you understand the difference??

Maybe I should spell it out for you. There is no reference anywhere but this one to the name "The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited" on the site and I am sure on their documentation as well. Find one and prove me wrong.

78 posted on 01/25/2014 10:09:44 PM PST by expat1000
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To: dfwgator
“Hi, I’m Fred....I have a bank....you got $1500, I’ll put it here in my white suit....White suit front pocket.”

LOL Steve Martin, right?

79 posted on 01/25/2014 10:33:12 PM PST by Veggie Todd (I don't always talk to Obama voters, but when I do I ask for Large Fries.)
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To: Kartographer

That is what you have to do when you cant print $$$ to cover loans.

Banks make $$$ by loaning it out which means they don’t have it.

If they didn’t do this many would NEVER get their $$$, and they may not still.

It happened here ~ 1930.


80 posted on 01/25/2014 10:56:38 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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