Posted on 07/17/2014 9:40:41 PM PDT by Reaganite Republican
That's the kind of approach, which allows 2nd world weak hyaena (which Putin's mafia state is) terrorize the world. “They stated, they will go nuclear”. Russians are not any nation of Ivan Dragos, ordinary folks over there shit their pants thinking about nuclear war, just like anyone else and their “VIPs” could actually panic If only they and their families were cut off from tropical vacations, western education, Swiss banks and latest smartphones.
———If the US government and its “controllers” can use this plane blowup to rally neocon support for American military action in Ukraine, the event benefits their goals more than anyone else.———
Wow....got to admit.... That will hard to beat in the nut job conspiracy realm ....
Seriously .... There is zero chance of overt US military action in Ukraine....
Not in my book. Meticulous is the word I would use. Just look at how he eventually solved the Grozny problem.
Apparently Cossacks fired the missile that just closed the airspace over Eastern Ukraine.
Not admiring them at all, just letting you know what could be coming down the pike.
And the bottom line is the US cannot act like Reagan, when it has walked away from Reagan.
It’s only a war zone because Putin has made it one and its his proxies who shot the civil airline down. You’re blaming the victims and upholding the Putin line. You should be a Democrat.
Oh yeah. Obama is really into that Mutually Assured Destruction thing. Now, where did he put that button ? Oh yeah, right where he put the Impeachment Button. In that new bunker he installed in the White House.
Ask them. They said it. Is it too much to ask the cronies running the US into the toilet to do some actual diplomacy ? Not the usual graft and corruption.
If Vladmir Putin wants to poke the one in the eye with a stick, I will be glad to sharpen one up for him. Democrat my arse.
Incidentally, every other airline knew enough to rerroute artound the war zone. Malaysia airlines didn’t want to pay for the extra fuel.
You’re wrong. Civil airlines didn’t start fleeing this area before the shoot down. You’re just plain factually wrong.
Okay fine. Lets assume the big bad bear is just lying like Saddam Hussein lied about WMD. The US cronies claimed the reason there was no WMD in Iraq, was because Saddam had to lie to keep his neighbors in check. Because the Middle East is a big bad place with scary neighbors. So the new crony line is, do not worry about Russia going nuclear, because the bear is just lying to scare his neighbors. Have fun with that one.
Almost impossible to believe any nation leader today......and most don't care about their population except as a resource to further their own lust for power and position on the World Stage. Ukraine's a prime example. Bottom line is the World will mourn the loss of these people...but the war will continue. It's that area of the world and they don't stop one another until one or the other wins or looses.
Who the heck cares about public opinion when you are at war. The guys that shot the plane down stated, why were the fools flying over a war zone ? To the people in Eastern Ukraine. They are at war. Real war. Not some focus group, poll tested media campaign.
...”Apparently Cossacks fired the missile that just closed the airspace over Eastern Ukraine”....
Looks that way...but one of the many possibilities flying all over the internet and news outlets.
Putin’s doing what he’s always done in the past few years...he’s always moved beyond the most recent event and continues to garner allies on the world stage...doesn’t matter to him who sides with him...he’s on the move wherever he he can do business.
Money is power and Putin’s all about money, trade and deals. Win some loose some he’s already on to the next. Look what he attained in ‘one week’ in S. America.
Meanwhile Ali-bama does fund raisers, golfs, high fives his buddies and then goes on vacation....he has nothing to loose.
Well, I guess there are people who are totally oblivious to economic realities and the importance of markets. See, markets are based upon public opinion and choices. Putin understands these realities. So, again, I'm certain that Putin does not share your appreciation for this horrible event. It's an ugly scar that's going to make it much more difficult for Putin to achieve whatever goals he might be pursuing.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-airspace-map-2014-7
http://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-militants-mh17-transcript-2014-7
He didn't have to. They are all big Democrat donors that will pay up anyway. HE JUST WANTED TO PARTY!
you’re wrong. Plenty of airlines knew the risk and used alternate routes prior to the event. furthermore, all flight paths below 32,000 feet were closed because they thought that would keep planes out of reach of errant SAMs that they knew about. They were wrong clearly, not I. And so again I say, in retrosepct, flying over war zone with active air defense systems was obviously a bad idea.
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