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Frustrated Parent Posts Ridiculous Common Core Math Question that Teaches to Solve 7x5 in Six Steps
Pundit Press ^ | 10/22/14 | Aurelius

Posted on 10/22/2014 7:10:56 AM PDT by therightliveswithus

A concerned parent posted a picture of their third grader's common core math homework yesterday. Frustrated, they called the homework "ridiculous."

Just how ridiculous? Third graders are now being taught how to multply single digit numbers using six steps.

Common Core is the over-complication of simple problems.

So, how do you solve 7 times 5? You don't just solve it quickly in your head. You don't count by seven five times.

Instead, you are supposed to break five into two smaller numbers. It doesn't explain why you don't break seven down, but students are supposed to instantly know that five needs breaking down.

Then, you decide how big the numbers you want to be from that 5. So let's say it's a 3. You then subtract 3 from 5 to get 2.

Then you write out 7 x (3 + 2), which I think looks much, much more complicated than 7 x 5. Then, you multiply 3 times 7 to get 21. After that, you multiply 2 times 7 to get 14. Finally, you add 14 plus 21, to get 35.

You can see the problem (and additional ones) below:

Dumb Common Core

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: brooklyncollege; commoncore; education; laurierubel; math; mathematics; miseducation; newyork; newyorkcity
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To: loveliberty2
There was an interesting passage in the biography John Adams, by David McCullough, where Adams writes of teaching (home-schooling!) his son John Quincy, who was seventeen:


If you were to examine him in English and French poetry, I know not where you would find anybody his superior... He has translated Virgil's Aeneid... the whole of Sallust and Tacitus' Agricola... a great part of Horace, some of Ovid, and some of Caesar's Commentaries... besides Tully's [Cicero's] Orations...

In Greek his progress has not been equal; yet has he studied morsels of Aristotle's Politics, in Plutarch's Lives, and Lucian's Dialogues, The Choice of Hercules in Xenophon, and lately he has gone through several books in Homer's Iliad.

In mathematics I hope he will pass muster. In the course of the last year... I have spent my evenings with him. We went with some accuracy through the geometry of the Preceptor, the eight books of Simpson's Euclid in Latin,.. We went through plane geometry... algebra, and the decimal fractions, arithmetical and geometrical proportions... I then attempted a sublime flight and endeavored to give him some idea of the differential method of calculations...[and] Sir Isaac Newton; but alas, it is thirty years since I thought of mathematics.


Letter from John Adams to Dr. Benjamin Waterhouse, former tutor to John Quincy Adams, pp. 324-325

-PJ

41 posted on 10/22/2014 8:08:37 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: therightliveswithus

Holy crap!...We just memorize this!


42 posted on 10/22/2014 8:08:39 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: therightliveswithus
From A Mathematician’s Lament

A musician wakes from a terrible nightmare. In his dream he finds himself in a society where music education has been made mandatory. “We are helping our students become more competitive in an increasingly sound-filled world.” Educators, school systems, and the state are put in charge of this vital project. Studies are commissioned, committees are formed, and decisions are made— all without the advice or participation of a single working musician or composer.

Since musicians are known to set down their ideas in the form of sheet music, these curious black dots and lines must constitute the “language of music.” It is imperative that students become fluent in this language if they are to attain any degree of musical competence; indeed, it would be ludicrous to expect a child to sing a song or play an instrument without having a thorough grounding in music notation and theory. Playing and listening to music, let alone composing an original piece, are considered very advanced topics and are generally put off until college, and more often graduate school.

As for the primary and secondary schools, their mission is to train students to use this language— to jiggle symbols around according to a fixed set of rules: “Music class is where we take out our staff paper, our teacher puts some notes on the board, and we copy them or transpose them into a different key. We have to make sure to get the clefs and key signatures right, and our teacher is very picky about making sure we fill in our quarter-notes completely. One time we had a chromatic scale problem and I did it right, but the teacher gave me no credit because I had the stems pointing the wrong way.”

In their wisdom, educators soon realize that even very young children can be given this kind of musical instruction. In fact it is considered quite shameful if one’s third-grader hasn’t completely memorized his circle of fifths. “I’ll have to get my son a music tutor. He simply won’t apply himself to his music homework. He says it’s boring. He just sits there staring out the window, humming tunes to himself and making up silly songs.”

In the higher grades the pressure is really on. After all, the students must be prepared for the standardized tests and college admissions exams. Students must take courses in Scales and Modes, Meter, Harmony, and Counterpoint. “It’s a lot for them to learn, but later in college when they finally get to hear all this stuff, they’ll really appreciate all the work they did in high school.” Of course, not many students actually go on to concentrate in music, so only a few will ever get to hear the sounds that the black dots represent. Nevertheless, it is important that every member of society be able to recognize a modulation or a fugal passage, regardless of the fact that they will never hear one. “To tell you the truth, most students just aren’t very good at music. They are bored in class, their skills are terrible, and their homework is barely legible. Most of them couldn’t care less about how important music is in today’s world; they just want to take the minimum number of music courses and be done with it. I guess there are just music people and non-music people. I had this one kid, though, man was she sensational! Her sheets were impeccable— every note in the right place, perfect calligraphy, sharps, flats, just beautiful. She’s going to make one hell of a musician someday.”

Waking up in a cold sweat, the musician realizes, gratefully, that it was all just a crazy dream. “Of course!” he reassures himself, “No society would ever reduce such a beautiful and meaningful art form to something so mindless and trivial; no culture could be so cruel to its children as to deprive them of such a natural, satisfying means of human expression. How absurd!”

And

Sadly, our present system of mathematics education is precisely this kind of nightmare. In fact, if I had to design a mechanism for the express purpose of destroying a child’s natural curiosity and love of pattern-making, I couldn’t possibly do as good a job as is currently being done— I simply wouldn’t have the imagination to come up with the kind of senseless, soulcrushing ideas that constitute contemporary mathematics education.

Everyone knows that something is wrong. The politicians say, “we need higher standards.” The schools say, “we need more money and equipment.” Educators say one thing, and teachers say another. They are all wrong. The only people who understand what is going on are the ones most often blamed and least often heard: the students. They say, “math class is stupid and boring,” and they are right.

43 posted on 10/22/2014 8:11:05 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Rebel_Ace
That's because your longer-winded rants are employing the “distributive” property of linguistics.

Cordially,

44 posted on 10/22/2014 8:12:49 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: therightliveswithus
Third grade is much too early to be teaching the distributive property, which this is about. The children should be "skip-counting" on their fingers 5,10,15,...35 while they're learning their multiplication facts.

My generation (almost all retired now) refused to teach nonsense. Why aren't today's teachers refusing? They're supposed to be professionals.

grrr......angry retired math teacher rant.

45 posted on 10/22/2014 8:13:44 AM PDT by grania
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To: petercooper

My college math professors showed no pity to those students that were taught “new math” techniques. And there in lies the rub. When these chitlins get to college the math professors will throw all this crap out and teach them using the tried an true methods that have been handed by the great mathematicians over the centuries.


46 posted on 10/22/2014 8:18:10 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: petercooper

If you think about it, this is just a waste of time because they still need to know their multiplication tables to fill in the individual parts of the equation. So what’s the point?

I actually do a lot of “mental math” using the method they’re teaching when multiplying larger numbers in my head. So the method is valid for larger numbers, just not for simple problems.


47 posted on 10/22/2014 8:23:24 AM PDT by Dawn53Fl
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To: therightliveswithus

Memorizing the multiplication tables worked. Would still work if the educators had any sense and would try it.


48 posted on 10/22/2014 8:25:35 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: petercooper

Yes this is the dumbing down of America.


49 posted on 10/22/2014 8:29:18 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: I want the USA back

The number of times in my life I called upon my memorization of the times tables must exceed 10 x 10,000


50 posted on 10/22/2014 8:34:59 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: All

My fav times table is 9. Bet CC could mess up that fun one.


51 posted on 10/22/2014 8:41:48 AM PDT by Exit148
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To: therightliveswithus

7 x 1 = 7, five times.


52 posted on 10/22/2014 8:44:24 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Thank you for posting Adams' own record of his son's educational progress.

The following essay is reprinted with permission:

An Enlightened, Committed People Who Understand The Principles Of Our Constitution

- The Most Effective Means Of Preserving Liberty


"Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant - they have been cheated; asleep - they have been surprised; divided - the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson? ...the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government they should watch over it.... It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free." James Madison

America's Constitution is the means by which knowledgeable and free people, capable of self-government, can bind and control their elected representatives in government. In order to remain free, the Founders said, the people themselves must clearly understand the ideas and principles upon which their Constitu­tional government is based. Through such understanding, they will be able to prevent those in power from eroding their Constitutional protections.

The Founders established schools and seminaries for the distinct purpose of instilling in youth the lessons of history and the ideas of liberty. And, in their day, they were successful. Tocqueville, eminent French jurist, traveled America and in his 1830's work, DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA, wrote:

".every citizen ... is taught the doctrines and the evidences of his religion, the history of his country, and the leading features of its Constitution ... it is extremely rare to find a man imperfectly acquainted with all these things, and a person wholly ignorant of them is a sort of phenomenon."

On the frontier, he noted that "...no sort of comparison can be drawn between the pioneer and the dwelling that shelters him.... He wears the dress and speaks the language of the cities; he is acquainted with the past, curious about the future, and ready for argument about the present.... I do not think that so much intellectual activity exists in the most enlightened and populous districts of France.' "He continued, 'It cannot be doubted that in the United States the instruction of the people powerfully contri­butes to the support of the democratic republic; and such must always be the case...where the instruction which enlightens the understanding is not separated from the moral education....'"

Possessing a clear understanding of the failure of previous civilizations to achieve and sustain freedom for individuals, our forefathers discovered some timeless truths about human nature, the struggle for individual liberty, the human tendency toward abuse of power, and the means for curbing that tendency through Constitutional self-government. Jefferson's Bill For The More General Diffusion Of Knowledge For Virginia declared:

"...experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government), those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny; and it is believed that the most effectual means of preventing this would be, to illuminate...the minds of the people...to give them knowledge of those facts, which history exhibiteth. History, by apprizing them of the past, will enable them to judge of the future...it will qualify them judges of the actions and designs of men; it will enable them to know ambition under every disguise it may assume; and knowing it, to defeat its views.."

Education was not perceived by the Founders to be a mere process for teaching basic skills. It was much, much more. Educa­tion included the very process by which the people of America would understand and be able to preserve their liberty and secure their Creator-endowed rights. Understanding the nature and origin of their rights and the means of preserving them, the people would be capable of self government, for they would recognize any threats to liberty and "nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud." (Adams)


Footnote: Our Ageless Constitution, W. David Stedman & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Editors (Asheboro, NC, W. David Stedman Associates, 1987) Part III:  ISBN 0-937047-01-5

53 posted on 10/22/2014 8:46:10 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: I want the USA back

“worked” = a success based upon a set standard or definable goal

Perhaps NOT using memorization “works” for a different goal?


54 posted on 10/22/2014 8:46:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: therightliveswithus

I just count the fingers on one hand seven times.

Works quite well.


55 posted on 10/22/2014 8:48:09 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Black Agnes

Well the whole purpose is to create an innumerate population. Why should one struggle with arithmatic when the government and mass media will do it for you and get it right everytime.

After all, news reports of polls loudly proclaim the dissident 30% as being more significant than the 70% majority opinion. That’s the factoid that sticks with the no-info-math-makes-my brain-hurt crowd.


56 posted on 10/22/2014 8:49:09 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: MrB

Good point. And the overarching question is what are the goals that the schools are trying to accomplish with mathematics teaching?


57 posted on 10/22/2014 8:49:52 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: kosciusko51

The goals include, I’m sure, turning out “graduates” who have no way of logically refuting the claims made by leftist bamboozlers.


58 posted on 10/22/2014 8:53:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: therightliveswithus

Actually... I recall these sort of problems... it demonstrates the Transitive Property in Multiplication... and factoring. Very valuable lessons.


59 posted on 10/22/2014 8:57:51 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: DannyTN

ah yes... distributive... I thought it was transitive.


60 posted on 10/22/2014 9:02:12 AM PDT by Rodamala
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