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The EMP Threat: All It Would Take Is A Couple Of Explosions To Send America Back To The 1800s
TEC ^ | 04/07/2015 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 04/07/2015 7:40:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: discostu

“Nothing shows you have no facts like going after the person. Since that’s all you’ve done for multiple posts now we both know the facts don’t back you.”

I am not going after you, I am going after you ignorance. You amplify you hard-headed ignorance by refusing to look up the reference I sent you. it is nothing personal, it’s just that you have no knowledge of the subject. If you want to learn, follow the path I pointed you towards.

If you simply want to declare yourself correct, people on the thread should hear a contrary opinion.


61 posted on 04/07/2015 9:22:18 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Kartographer

I agree with that at some level. Yet there were tons of people saying up to the last minute that the sky was falling. That businesses hadn’t done enough. That we should “prep”, there won’t be food etc. It is the nature of people.


62 posted on 04/07/2015 9:23:32 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: RFEngineer

For years I have seen you get on these threads and start playing expert, and sounding like you really know this topic and are going to start delivering good information, many times I have gotten excited at your initial posts, but nothing ever comes from them.

You never actually say anything, other than that everyone is wrong, and stupid.

You never back up your attitude with facts and actual information.


63 posted on 04/07/2015 9:24:37 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: RFEngineer

Calling people ignorant is an ad hominem attack. It’s a fallacy that shows an inability or unwillingness to bring facts or logic. Meanwhile my points stand, neither us nor the USSR had any serious plans to use EMP in an offensive capacity, which shows it’s just not that powerful.

Now if you’re not going to bring in facts on the next post you really shouldn’t even bother to make it. More ad hominems is just a waste of electrons.


64 posted on 04/07/2015 9:25:49 AM PDT by discostu (Bobby, I'm sorry you have a head like a potato.)
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To: Nowhere Man

“I do agree that EMP is no the 800 lbs gorilla it is made out to be but more like the 500 lbs one.”

I like how you put this.

in the absence of data of modern electronics and systems vulnerability to EMP, you have to treat critical systems like they will face the 800 lb gorilla. You also have to leave open the possibility that it’s actually a 1000lb gorilla.


65 posted on 04/07/2015 9:27:21 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: ansel12

Private message me if you are curious


66 posted on 04/07/2015 9:29:41 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: discostu

“Calling people ignorant is an ad hominem attack.”

But you are ignorant. What am I supposed to do, congratulate you for being wrong?


67 posted on 04/07/2015 9:31:09 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

The one thing you steadfastly refuse to do:
bring facts.


68 posted on 04/07/2015 9:34:06 AM PDT by discostu (Bobby, I'm sorry you have a head like a potato.)
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To: AppyPappy

I did not know that. Is there any keywords I could use to find out more about that.


69 posted on 04/07/2015 9:36:34 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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To: discostu

“The one thing you steadfastly refuse to do:
bring facts.”

I sent you the military spec for emp shielding. You didn’t even look at it.

That is a whole 100 pages or so of facts.

Before whining further at least look at it.


70 posted on 04/07/2015 9:38:10 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: kjam22

Any danger can be taken to extreme, but that doesn’t mean the danger is not real. To many people use the false argument of Y2K to prove that nothing untold can happen.


71 posted on 04/07/2015 9:38:28 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: AppyPappy

For general FYI, I looked up USSR EMP tests and came up with this article:

http://www.futurescience.com/emp/test184.html

Pretty interesting.


72 posted on 04/07/2015 9:39:35 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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To: Kartographer
Y2K didn’t happen because it couldn’t it didn’t happen because business took it serious and at the cost of millions of dollars they had programmers rewrite millions of lines of code.

Spot on, thank you for posting that!

73 posted on 04/07/2015 9:40:26 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: ModelBreaker
I’m assuming we need world socialism to avoid this threat?

Yep, and high taxes on any kind of energy consumption. Plus, you must reduce your water usage by at least 25% right now. Oh, and get rid of your guns. The metal in them will amplify the destructive effects of EMP.

74 posted on 04/07/2015 9:41:09 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: RFEngineer

No thanks, nothing would change from what you can’t post on years worth of threads, and what you can’t post to someone in a private exchange.

You always give the impression that something informative is going to follow, or that you could inform everyone of why they are wrong about EMP if you choose, but it never happens.


75 posted on 04/07/2015 9:43:20 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: kjam22

Look at it this way the Yellowstone Super Volcano could blow again at anytime, but just because Y2K didn’t happen does that mean Yellowstone won’t happen?


76 posted on 04/07/2015 9:47:05 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: RFEngineer

Which had nothing to do with what I’m saying. The assertion is that EMP can do massive damage to civilian electronics. Which begs the question of why that wasn’t our plan in the event of nuclear war. We know NEAR the blast is a strong EMP so things that will be near it need to be hardened, but that does NOT indicated that “a couple of explosions” would reek havoc across the country. So at best you erected a strawman, yet another fallacy.


77 posted on 04/07/2015 9:51:34 AM PDT by discostu (Bobby, I'm sorry you have a head like a potato.)
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To: ansel12

“You always give the impression that something informative is going to follow, or that you could inform everyone of why they are wrong about EMP if you choose, but it never happens.”

My objective on these threads is to counter misinformation. I do it well. If someone wants to know more in depth, they can private message me, as can you if you really want to to know what you say you do.


78 posted on 04/07/2015 9:51:51 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: dfwgator

That is an excellent little video, theory of survival is mostly fantasy, and illusion when compared to the nuts and bolts reality of it.

This is part of why I love the prepper/survivalist movement, the more people who store food, then the better for our nation, the more millions of tons of long term stored food shoved back into the corner of our basements and closets, then the better for the big picture, in a worst case scenario.


79 posted on 04/07/2015 9:55:39 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: RFEngineer
in the absence of data of modern electronics and systems vulnerability to EMP

Was the data that was collected in the past pre IC integration? Are there subsequent studies on how an EMP would affect our current electronics with IC integration?

80 posted on 04/07/2015 10:00:38 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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