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An EMP attack on America seems likely
Dan Miller's Blog ^ | April 19, 2015 | Dan Miller

Posted on 04/19/2015 10:57:56 AM PDT by DanMiller

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To: bigbob
If an EMP attack was successfully made, our ability to retaliate would depend on the extent to which our command and control infrastructure was impaired.

The military has been hardening their communications systems for decades. The EMP issue has been recognized ever since the military has been contemplating a nuclear battlefield. While I'm sure the measures are probably not bullet-proof, enough of the communication system would likely survive to completely destroy whoever we assumed launched the attack.

21 posted on 04/19/2015 11:51:20 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: discostu

Read “One Second After” by William R. Forstchen for a good description of the consequences of an EMP attack.


22 posted on 04/19/2015 11:54:43 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: big'ol_freeper

LOL! Is that a dachsie worried about gubmint brain waves, or is it a Hersey’s Kiss commercial?

Real question: can an EMP be delivered by non-nuclear means?


23 posted on 04/19/2015 12:07:26 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease.")
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To: gorush
Excellent, definitive book! Gives you the willies while reading it.

Amazon link.

24 posted on 04/19/2015 12:08:51 PM PDT by upchuck (The current Federal Governent is what the Founding Fathers tried to prevent. WAKE UP!! Amendment V.)
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To: DanMiller

The attack won’t be coming from N Korea, but from Russia. Russsia is working to make their missles 5 times faster. The old 20 minute warning will be 5 minutes.


25 posted on 04/19/2015 12:11:35 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: aimhigh

If anybody tries it it won’t be Russia. The minute their missiles take off our trident subs will launch and Russia will be a skating rink. Why would they try to EMP us knowing they would be wiped out?

Now Iran might run a tramp steamer up the NE coast and blow one off and try to get it up about 50 miles and then detonate. They could scuttle the ship and it might be more difficult to figure out exactly who did the deed.

When the Norks put up a missile they have no clue where its going. Their guidance system is Mario Bros. There would probably be as much of a chance it lands in Beijing than detonating over the US.

Its so much easier to just hack in and put the grid down that way. Everyday we get about 50,000 attempts on our grid. Or some ridiculously high figure. The EPA is weakening our grid every year with the coal fired plant shutdowns. All its going to take is one really hot summer week and the right hack and we are toast.


26 posted on 04/19/2015 12:42:16 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

That dog sure is cute.


27 posted on 04/19/2015 12:53:39 PM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I’ve read that every merchant mariner approaching the US is identified before it reaches our shore...


28 posted on 04/19/2015 1:12:48 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: DanMiller

Obamas salivating. He gets to stay in office forever. We won’t let that happen, but he thinks he will.


29 posted on 04/19/2015 1:17:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: babygene; Leaning Right; discostu; MeshugeMikey; DanMiller; DownInFlames; big'ol_freeper; bigbob; ..
Old news:

Iran readies launch of new satellite
(Iran's second satellite launch, 11/09/2009
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2382720/posts

Iran Satellite Launch Heightens Missile Development Concerns
By Donna Miles
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Feb. 3, 2009
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=52939

Iran hails successful launch of satellite rocket
Posted on Wed 03 Feb 2010 02:51:50 AM MST
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2443266/posts

Iran fires satellite carrier into space
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2443258/posts

Iran Launches Third Satellite
(2012)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2841888/posts

Here's what any nation that can launch a satellite could do. As accessed on 11/13/2011:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/1984/ERD.htm
EMP
Submitted To
Mr. Wiggins
In Partial Fulfillment of Requirements
for Written Communications
The Marine Corps Command and Staff College
Quantico, Virginia
Major R. D. Erick
United States Marine Corps
April 6, 1984
Excerpt:
“However, the effects produced by a nuclear explosion were not fully realized until the “Johnston Island Test” in 1962. This nuclear blast had a yield of 1.4 megatons at an altitude of 250 miles. The explosion damaged a number of low earth orbit satellites and caused malfunctions and early failure of others. Another effect that was noted during the blast was a blackout up to 600 miles away of high frequency radio communications that lasted for hours. It was caused by disruption of the ionosphere. It also popped circuit breakers, street lights went out, burglar alarms rang, and power lines went down in Honolulu, about 800 miles away. In Nov. 1962, all above ground testing was halted and our testing and analysis was limited to underground testing, analysis of the existing atmospheric test data, nonnuclear simulation, and theoretical calculations.”


[Okay, the following was recent news.]
Iran endorses nuclear EMP attack on United States [in 20 places]
March 19, 2015
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3269775/posts


Iran Placing Medium-Range Missiles in Venezuela; Can Reach the U.S. (12/09/10)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2640111/posts

‘Die Welt’: Iran building rocket bases in Venezuela (17 May 2011)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2721122/posts

Lawmaker: Iran's Revolutionary Guard Practicing for An EMP Attack on the United States
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2806848/posts

Russia, N.Korea, China give Iran missile aid -CIA
09/08/01
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/519198/posts

Iran military engineers on hand for N. Korea missile launch
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1664760/posts
(7/12/06)

10 Iranian Missile Engineers Visited N. Korea:Sankei reports(check on NK’s Chinese equipments)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1658850/posts
(07/01/06)

S. Korea, U.S. verifying reports on test of new N.K. missile in Iran: source
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834307/posts
(4,000 kilometer range—will reach the Vatican—May 16th, 2007)

Russia engages in 'gangland' diplomacy as it sends warship to the Caribbean (Exercise with Venezuelan military, 2008)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2088262/posts
(from 2006)

Russia to build 2 Kalashnikov factories in Venezuela by 2010
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070806/70445720.html


30 posted on 04/19/2015 1:35:06 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: DanMiller

I consider an EMP attack on America to be a virtual certainty. The only questions are, “When, and by whom?”


31 posted on 04/19/2015 1:43:40 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: DanMiller

When the time comes, Iran and North Korea will probably launch their Russo-Chinese weapons, followed by thousands of launches from Russia and China.

But here’s something that you can do. See the real reason that no one is going to “bug out” from suburbia to go “marauding” in your unharmed rural locale. Try it! It’s fun for the whole family!

NUKEMAP
http://www.nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/


32 posted on 04/19/2015 1:46:38 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

“I consider an EMP attack on America to be a virtual certainty.”

I consider it the lest likely scenario for SHTF. First off, it is unlikely to do much damage at all. Second, few can put a good bomb into space. Third, those that can have no intention of doing so. Never have. For 70 years people have played the Chicken Little The-Sky-Is-Falling routine. Nothing yet.


33 posted on 04/19/2015 2:23:16 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: gorush

The problem is EMP is limited to LOS. So getting a good range requires altitude, altitude is very difficult. The serious damage range for EMP is between 40 and 300 miles up. 300 miles up is higher than the ISS, and there’s maybe 2 dozen countries that can get a payload up to 40. Subsequently EMP is quite simply not a threat.


34 posted on 04/19/2015 3:07:51 PM PDT by discostu (Bobby, I'm sorry you have a head like a potato.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Agreed. Grid down is the cleanest way.


35 posted on 04/19/2015 3:08:47 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: aimhigh

Russia is not that stupid. Muzzies are.


36 posted on 04/19/2015 3:10:33 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: familyop

Iran and north Korea do not have thermonuclear weapons nor will they in the foreseeable future.

To cover the U.S. you need to be 200 plus miles up, and remember that the pulse decreases with the square of the distance.... That’s why you need megatons not kilotons.

Ain’t going to happen... You could take out a city at airliner height, but not the country.


37 posted on 04/19/2015 4:24:59 PM PDT by babygene
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To: babygene
NORAD commander: North Korean KN-08 (nuclear) missile operational
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3276966/posts

Pentagon Believes North Korea Has Made Advance in Nuclear Weapons
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3219207/posts

North Korea issues its latest nuclear threat (fourth nuclear test)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3154619/posts

North Korea Might Put Nukes Aboard Submarines
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3249868/posts

North (Korea) has nuke missiles: source
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3206861/posts

N. Korea conducts ejection launcher test for submarine missile: report
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3229809/posts

US accuses Russia and China over North Korea bomb (way back in 2002)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/772101/posts

Iran Fortifies Its Arsenal With the Aid of North Korea
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2634188/posts


38 posted on 04/19/2015 6:22:05 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: babygene
See Iranian satellite launches in comment #30.


39 posted on 04/19/2015 6:24:44 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: discostu
See Iranian satellite launches in comment #30.


40 posted on 04/19/2015 6:25:44 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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