Cheyene Mt. Complex Posted on 04/19/2015 10:57:56 AM PDT by DanMiller
Some consider North Korea to be the rogue nation most likely to use an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) to attack America; Iran is also seen as quite likely to do it. It matters little which succeeds.
Here is a lengthy 2013 video about an EMP attack, what would happen and why:
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9z4EnE9baU]
The possibilities and consequences of an EMP attack on America are too horrific to contemplate; the "legitimate news media" generally ignore them. We therefore tend to relegate them to the realm of remote "tin foil hat conspiracy theories" and to focus instead on more congenial stuff -- the latest sex scandal, Hillary Clinton's campaign van parking in a disabled-only space and other matters unlikely to impact America to an extent even approaching that of an EMP attack. Meanwhile, most of "our" Congress Critters, who should know better, focus on opinion polls, filling their campaign coffers and getting richer personally while neglecting our atrophying missile defense systems and other potential means of avoiding or recovering from an EMP attack.
Here is a 2013 video about the likelihood of an Iranian EMP attack on America that would paralyze the country for a very long time.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N90o-7a-kLE]
North Korea and the Islamic Republic of Iran have long cooperated in the development of nukes and means to deliver them. I wrote about their cooperation here, here, here and elsewhere. It now appears that Iran intends to use them for an EMP attack on America.
The issue of a nuclear EMP attack was raised in the final hours of this week’s elections in Israel when U.S. authority Peter Vincent Pry penned a column for Arutz Sheva warning of Iran’s threat to free nations.“Iranian military documents describe such a scenario — including a recently translated Iranian military textbook that endorses nuclear EMP attack against the United States,” he wrote. [Emphasis added.]
Here is a March 7, 2015 video about the impact of the P5+1 "negotiations" on Iran getting (or keeping) nukes and the likelihood of an Iranian EMP attack on America:
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgvI3V3JE0c]
In April of this year, John Bolton had this to say about the Iran - North Korea connection, how much we don't know and the ongoing P5+1 "negotiations."
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oicS18ibxkQ]
Perhaps Israel can take out Iran's nuke capabilities.
Here is a February 2015 video about what's (not) being done to harden our domestic power grid:
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYcu3OxuWUY]
As of February of this year, Govtrack US opined that the chances of passage of the SHIELD act were zero percent. Be that as it may, simply hardening the power grid would not solve communications or transport problems -- most modern communications devices, as well as vehicles built after 1987, depend on computer chips and, when the chips are fried, will not function. Even if food and water could be processed, getting them to consumers in sufficient quantities to keep them alive would be an enormous if not impossible task.
Problems of a human nature would also arise and remaining alive would be difficult. If one's family were about to starve, how many would try to steal food and water from those who still have even enough for a few days? How many roving gangs of armed criminals, quite willing to kill, would do the same? The police would likely have no communications ability and might well be otherwise occupied, tending to their own families. Military forces not confined to base would likely have the same problems and be doing the same.
That suggests another problem in restoring infrastructure seriously damaged or destroyed by the EMP attack. It would not only require the availability of transport, communications and undamaged equipment. It would also require the availability of personnel, not otherwise occupied in scrounging for food, water, medical supplies and other resources to care for their own families, while protecting them from those lacking such resources, as well as from armed gangs.
Now, the U.S. military is taking steps to protect itself by reopening a cold war bunker at Cheyenne Mountain, abandoned in 2006.
Cheyene Mt. Complex
The Pentagon last week [early April 2015] announced a $700 million contract with Raytheon Corporation to oversee the work for North American Aerospace Command (NORAD) and US Northern Command.Admiral William Gortney, head of NORAD and Northern Command, said that 'because of the very nature of the way that Cheyenne Mountain's built, it's EMP-hardened.'
. . . .
'And so, there's a lot of movement to put capability into Cheyenne Mountain and to be able to communicate in there,' Gortney told reporters.
'My primary concern was... are we going to have the space inside the mountain for everybody who wants to move in there, and I'm not at liberty to discuss who's moving in there,' he said. [Emphasis added.]
The Cheyenne mountain bunker is a half-acre cavern carved into a mountain in the 1960s that was designed to withstand a Soviet nuclear attack. From inside the massive complex, airmen were poised to send warnings that could trigger the launch of nuclear missiles.
But in 2006, officials decided to move the headquarters of NORAD and US Northern Command from Cheyenne to Petersen Air Force base in Colorado Springs. The Cheyenne bunker was designated as an alternative command center if needed.
Now the Pentagon is looking at shifting communications gear to the Cheyenne bunker, officials said.
'A lot of the back office communications is being moved there,' said one defense official.
Officials said the military's dependence on computer networks and digital communications makes it much more vulnerable to an electromagnetic pulse, which can occur naturally or result from a high-altitude nuclear explosion.
Under the 10-year contract, Raytheon is supposed to deliver 'sustainment' services to help the military perform 'accurate, timely and unambiguous warning and attack assessment of air, missile and space threats' at the Cheyenne and Petersen bases.
Raytheon's contract also involves unspecified work at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California and Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska.
When will the site be fully operational, for what and who will be allowed to go there?
Some other military bases are probably being hardened, at least to an extent that might (or might not) preserve their electrical grids. If it works, they may serve as refugee centers for adjacent civilian populations. However, the military installations would likely run out of food and potable water before very long and, with food and water processing centers no longer operational, there would be substantial difficulties in getting -- as well as transporting -- large quantities of food and water. Were the processing centers to become operational, transportaion difficulties would remain. Communications between the military installations and the outside world? Likely zilch, at least initially, because radios, telephones and other modern communications devices (as most now are) depend on computer chips and would be fried by an EMP attack. Some might eventually be restored at some military bases, but that is not likely to be the case with those not on those bases.
Conclusions
What would you do in the event of an EMP attack? In a major metropolitan area, you would probably be SOL very quickly. In a small town? Marginally but not much better off. An isolated small farm, close to a mountain spring and adequately stocked with food, medical supplies, firearms and ammunition, could provide reason to hope that you might eventually be able to grow or slaughter sufficient food and have access to enough potable water to survive; at least until roving armed gangs arrive and overpower you.
This video is about a massive world-wide pandemic. In the event of a pandemic, electricity, automobiles and communications would still function, at least for a while. Following an EMP attack, the consequences would likely be substantially worse and last far longer.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwymCRaIbSU]
Here is a link to a novel about one family in a small city and its efforts to survive an EMP attack on America. It does a reasonable job of summarizing the potential consequences.
The military has been hardening their communications systems for decades. The EMP issue has been recognized ever since the military has been contemplating a nuclear battlefield. While I'm sure the measures are probably not bullet-proof, enough of the communication system would likely survive to completely destroy whoever we assumed launched the attack.
Read “One Second After” by William R. Forstchen for a good description of the consequences of an EMP attack.
LOL! Is that a dachsie worried about gubmint brain waves, or is it a Hersey’s Kiss commercial?
Real question: can an EMP be delivered by non-nuclear means?
Amazon link.
The attack won’t be coming from N Korea, but from Russia. Russsia is working to make their missles 5 times faster. The old 20 minute warning will be 5 minutes.
If anybody tries it it won’t be Russia. The minute their missiles take off our trident subs will launch and Russia will be a skating rink. Why would they try to EMP us knowing they would be wiped out?
Now Iran might run a tramp steamer up the NE coast and blow one off and try to get it up about 50 miles and then detonate. They could scuttle the ship and it might be more difficult to figure out exactly who did the deed.
When the Norks put up a missile they have no clue where its going. Their guidance system is Mario Bros. There would probably be as much of a chance it lands in Beijing than detonating over the US.
Its so much easier to just hack in and put the grid down that way. Everyday we get about 50,000 attempts on our grid. Or some ridiculously high figure. The EPA is weakening our grid every year with the coal fired plant shutdowns. All its going to take is one really hot summer week and the right hack and we are toast.
That dog sure is cute.
I’ve read that every merchant mariner approaching the US is identified before it reaches our shore...
Obamas salivating. He gets to stay in office forever. We won’t let that happen, but he thinks he will.
‘Die Welt’: Iran building rocket bases in Venezuela (17 May 2011)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2721122/posts
Lawmaker: Iran's Revolutionary Guard Practicing for An EMP Attack on the United States
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2806848/posts
Russia, N.Korea, China give Iran missile aid -CIA
09/08/01
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/519198/posts
Iran military engineers on hand for N. Korea missile launch
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1664760/posts
(7/12/06)
10 Iranian Missile Engineers Visited N. Korea:Sankei reports(check on NK’s Chinese equipments)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1658850/posts
(07/01/06)
S. Korea, U.S. verifying reports on test of new N.K. missile in Iran: source
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834307/posts
(4,000 kilometer range—will reach the Vatican—May 16th, 2007)
Russia engages in 'gangland' diplomacy as it sends warship to the Caribbean (Exercise with Venezuelan military, 2008)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2088262/posts
(from 2006)
Russia to build 2 Kalashnikov factories in Venezuela by 2010
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070806/70445720.html
I consider an EMP attack on America to be a virtual certainty. The only questions are, “When, and by whom?”
When the time comes, Iran and North Korea will probably launch their Russo-Chinese weapons, followed by thousands of launches from Russia and China.
But here’s something that you can do. See the real reason that no one is going to “bug out” from suburbia to go “marauding” in your unharmed rural locale. Try it! It’s fun for the whole family!
NUKEMAP
http://www.nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
“I consider an EMP attack on America to be a virtual certainty.”
I consider it the lest likely scenario for SHTF. First off, it is unlikely to do much damage at all. Second, few can put a good bomb into space. Third, those that can have no intention of doing so. Never have. For 70 years people have played the Chicken Little The-Sky-Is-Falling routine. Nothing yet.
The problem is EMP is limited to LOS. So getting a good range requires altitude, altitude is very difficult. The serious damage range for EMP is between 40 and 300 miles up. 300 miles up is higher than the ISS, and there’s maybe 2 dozen countries that can get a payload up to 40. Subsequently EMP is quite simply not a threat.
Agreed. Grid down is the cleanest way.
Russia is not that stupid. Muzzies are.
Iran and north Korea do not have thermonuclear weapons nor will they in the foreseeable future.
To cover the U.S. you need to be 200 plus miles up, and remember that the pulse decreases with the square of the distance.... That’s why you need megatons not kilotons.
Ain’t going to happen... You could take out a city at airliner height, but not the country.
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