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Skepticism on Dylann Roof's "manifesto" and website
correntewire.com ^ | June 20, 2015 | lambert

Posted on 06/25/2015 11:21:56 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012

I saw the story of Dylann Roof's website break on my Twitter feed this morning, and in a just a few hours it's in the New York Times. The site contains images of Roof, as well as a manifesto in text. Here's the text (icky). Here's an image (icky):

I've taught college undergraduates. If there are no misspellings in this text -- and on a quick scan, I found none -- then Roof, a high-school dropout, didn't write it.

The manifesto is also very well-written, for what it is; I'd want to see a writing sample from Roof, possibly from his high school English teacher, before I concluded Roof wrote it.

So I wonder then, if not Roof, who? Could he simply have appropriate some other racist's work? Well, I Google for phrases from the Manifesto, and I don't find any hits other than this. So who wrote it?

The Times is right to be skeptical:

It is not clear who wrote the words and who took the pictures, but the manifesto appears to trace the evolution of the author’s racist worldview and concludes with a section labeled “An Explanation.

If there's one thing we've learned over the past few years, it's that "Internet evidence is not evidence," because it's too easy to alter or even manufacture it. Provenance is key. So while the site may be authentic, and the pictures may be authentic, there's one big piece of the site that doesn't look authentic at all.

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To: MeshugeMikey

where did this photo come from? who was it taken by....HOW and WHY was it taken? how did it get on the web?

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Really? Assume some sort of conspiracy before doing 90 seconds of research?

Someone captured an image of his first court ‘appearance’ (that played on every news channel endlessly a day or 2 after the shooting), he was not in the courtroom, was done by video conference.


21 posted on 06/25/2015 11:38:31 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Osage Orange

Exactly! Unless you have some kind of interest in decolonization, or maybe guerrilla warfare (like me), odds are the most people will say is, “Oh, that’s now Zimbabwe.”

Even on the issue of decolonization, Rhodesia was still a back burner issue.

Things don’t add up.


22 posted on 06/25/2015 11:39:26 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: ilovesarah2012

It’s a conspiracy!!


23 posted on 06/25/2015 11:40:20 AM PDT by ConservativeWarriors
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To: ilovesarah2012

“A lot in here that I don’t understand but I questioned whether a ninth grade dropout did indeed write the “manifesto” attributed to Roof.”

Plenty of smart kids drop out of high school. Plus there’s spell-check. With the Internet he could have easily learned about Rhodesia, etc.

Don’t equate success or failure in public schools with intelligence or lack thereof.


24 posted on 06/25/2015 11:40:20 AM PDT by noxylophone
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To: dmz

Its not the sort of image one encounters often... if at all.

It looked as though it could have been taken in an elevator...


25 posted on 06/25/2015 11:42:20 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: ilovesarah2012

The revolution will be fought with software, and drones, and networks, not with guns and bullets.


26 posted on 06/25/2015 11:43:05 AM PDT by olepap (Your old Pappy)
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To: ilovesarah2012

There were grammatical errors in the ‘manifesto’ that I looked at, but the writing also showed a level of intellect which didn’t jibe with the drug addled killer image portrayed in the media.

Socially immature and in desperate need of a strong loving father was the other takeaway I had from this kid’s story.


27 posted on 06/25/2015 11:43:29 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I am also a drop out.

We’re all illiterate don’t’cha know.


28 posted on 06/25/2015 11:44:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I have not followed the story at all, but I thought he was born in South Africa, or his family came to the US from there?

Possibly his family put more emphasis on the English language and writing skills, which might explain the writings being of high quality word usage, etc.

JMHO


29 posted on 06/25/2015 11:45:26 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Shadow44

Rhodesia.

That’s one of our 57 states.

(Where’s my cookie?)


30 posted on 06/25/2015 11:45:40 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: ilovesarah2012
If there are no misspellings in this text -- and on a quick scan, I found none -- then Roof, a high-school dropout, didn't write it.

Or Roof, a high-school dropout, used Microsoft Word with the spell check turned on? Just looking at the example he gave you can see that the punctuation is terrible and the grammer is bad; "Me and White friends..."??? I can easily see a poorly educated kid like Roof writing it.

31 posted on 06/25/2015 11:46:09 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: ilovesarah2012; WildHighlander57; Old Sarge; EnigmaticAnomaly; Califreak; kalee; TWhiteBear; ...
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Russian connection?

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32 posted on 06/25/2015 11:46:34 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: ilovesarah2012
I've taught college undergraduates. If there are no misspellings in this text -- and on a quick scan, I found none -- then Roof, a high-school dropout, didn't write it.

Are the author's students unfamiliar with spell check?

33 posted on 06/25/2015 11:48:47 AM PDT by gdani (No sacred cows)
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To: mac_truck

His comments are standard white supremacist fare, e.g. blacks are inferior, Jews are evil, Latins threaten America, that could have easily been a cut and paste job. You don’t exactly have to be Charles Krauthammer to copy someone else’s words and paste them on your blog.


34 posted on 06/25/2015 11:49:29 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: MeshugeMikey

Don’t know, but it must really make him mad that — his twin brother is one of the cops guarding him.


35 posted on 06/25/2015 11:49:41 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: cripplecreek

Fortunately, not all dropouts are killers. (In my best GWB twang)

This kid was doing something during the 2-3 years after he dropped out. My guess is he spent a lot of time on the internet.


36 posted on 06/25/2015 11:50:45 AM PDT by WinMod70
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To: ilovesarah2012
I'm with you 100%. This 'massacre' has the stench of Sandy Hoax all over it. One survivor in the church stated that Dylann wanted to shoot himself.. He raised the gun to his temple, pulled the trigger and the gun clicked but no discharge. I CALL 'BS' ON THIS ONE. Roof used a Glock. Glock's default to a 'slide back' position after the last round is fired and the magazine is empty. So he racked the slide knowing his magazine was now empty then fired the empty chamber? 100% BULLSHIITE. Dylann would know that if he emptied his magazine THEN THE GUN WOULD NOT FIRE A ROUND NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES HE RACKED THE SLIDE.

If the massacre DID happen, I want to know WHO RECRUITED HIM VIA THE INTERNET FOR THIS KILL MISSION AND WHAT 3-LETTER GOVERNMENT AGENCY IS THIS PERSON WORKING FOR: DHS, DOJ, FBI MAYBE???!!!! Everything that has happened in the media SINCE this massacre is a bit TOO WELL SCRIPTED.

And then there's THIS. Valerie Jarrett lamenting that she wished they had done MORE about gun control before Odungo's term is up. INTERESTING TIMING, EH?:

JUNE 11, 2015 (6 days before the church massacre): Obama Advisor: Gun Control, Immigration Reform Are Administration’s ‘Disappointments’

37 posted on 06/25/2015 11:50:47 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: WinMod70

This drop out is looking for some free online creative writing help.


38 posted on 06/25/2015 11:53:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
This 'massacre' has the stench of Sandy Hoax all over it.

Yes, Sandy Hoax, where there really are no dead kids or teachers, the families are all paid actors, the building was not a school, and the police, city officials & school administrators were all in on that false flag operation...

39 posted on 06/25/2015 11:54:04 AM PDT by gdani (No sacred cows)
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To: gdani
True, but then again the 'manifesto' is very well written.

I question everything these days, with the stakes so high and progressives so adept at lying.

40 posted on 06/25/2015 11:58:38 AM PDT by skeeter
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