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British archives hiding royal family’s links to anti-Semitism in 1930s, says historian
timesofisrael.com ^ | July 19, 2015 | JP O’ Malley

Posted on 07/20/2015 3:32:38 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

LONDON — In April 1945, code-breakers at Bletchley Park, England, intercepted the following telegram from Adolf Hitler, who was then under siege in his bunker in Berlin: “The Führer attaches importance to the President of the Red Cross, the Duke of Coburg, on no account falling into enemy hands.”

Karina Urbach, a German historian, believes that whatever information Hitler shared with Carl Edward, the Duke of Coburg — who was a grandson of Queen Victoria, and a close blood relative to the current British monarchy — it was damning enough to warrant an assassination request. Coburg, though, would manage to escape such a drastic fate and eventually died in 1954 of natural causes, aged 69.

Urbach has recently published “Go Betweens For Hitler,” a book that explores how members of the aristocratic class across Europe worked as secret negotiators for Hitler during the interwar years.

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KEYWORDS: germany; israel; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 07/20/2015 3:32:38 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Royals told: open archives on family ties to Nazi regime
Unlike the National Archives, the royal archives, which are known to contain large volumes of correspondence between members of the royal family and Nazi politicians and aristocrats, are not compelled to release material on a regular basis.
2 posted on 07/20/2015 3:34:57 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Former King wanted England bombed
3 posted on 07/20/2015 3:37:05 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Now the Royal family faces TV 'Nazi' exposé
4 posted on 07/20/2015 3:38:46 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Why this sudden interest in the Royal family’s past (70-80 years ago).

What is the media trying to divert us from?


5 posted on 07/20/2015 3:39:12 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Isn't it funny that Socialists never want to share their own money?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Royal corgi breeder who gave family their first dog in 1933 also provided animals to top Nazis including Goering
6 posted on 07/20/2015 3:40:17 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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I hope they’re consulting with Obama and his minions; they’re experts at covering up the past and could learn a few things.

And who cares what people’s ancestors did in the ‘30s? By now, it’s “all new people”, with new beliefs and ideas.


7 posted on 07/20/2015 3:43:30 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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Queen's Nazi Salute may have been accidentally leaked by Buckingham Palace
8 posted on 07/20/2015 4:00:04 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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OOPS!


9 posted on 07/20/2015 4:00:39 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Well, the European Royal families, that of Britain too are all connected; either by blood or by marriage. Not necessarily to Nazis or Nazi sympathizers, but certainly related to German royalty, nobility or aristocracy, included in those some who were married to Nazis.

Today although Germany is a Republic, you’ll find more nobility, royalty and aristocracy in Germany, by bloodlines, from bygone decades, than many other countries in Europe.

Probably, this issue is being highlighted following the recent State visit by the Queen and Prince Phillip to Germany.

The Queen & basically the House of Windsor have a direct German heritage - “Windsor” is an adopted name; originally, Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (a branch of the House of Wettin) was changed to the English Windsor, due to the anti-German sentiment in the British Empire during World War I.

The Queen from her father’s side is German. Prince Phillip more so, and speaks fluent German. I understand 2 of his sisters were actually married to high ranking Nazis.

In Europe at least, the above are well-known, very public facts. Anyhow, none of the above means the Queen, her parents, or Prince Phillip were Nazi sympathizers.


10 posted on 07/20/2015 4:03:53 AM PDT by odds
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Urbach says when she was previously writing a book on Queen Victoria, she was invited around for tea at the Royal Archives. However, when she started demanding any material involving details of the British monarchy’s dealings with Nazi Germany, the relationship turned sour.

“I was never asked for tea at the Round Tower at Windsor again,” says Urbach.

“I was ostracized by the Royal Archives because I wanted these papers. The Royal Archives claim that they are a private archive. Of course they are not. The British public are entitled to have access to this correspondence because it’s their history. You cannot just cut it out, or cover it up, because you don’t want to upset the current queen.”

“The [Monarchy] pretend to be an open [institution] by publishing children’s letters Queen Victoria wrote, and beautiful pictures of royal babies. The things they are feeding us are charming and sugary. But it covers up the fact that they are not giving us the real historical material,” says Urbach.


11 posted on 07/20/2015 4:04:14 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: odds
Probably, this issue is being highlighted following the recent State visit by the Queen and Prince Phillip to Germany.
At a state banquet in Berlin on Wednesday, she made a speech that went far beyond her usual Christmas Day platitudes. For once, you felt there was real feeling here – and real political meat.
12 posted on 07/20/2015 4:11:55 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Cowboy Bob

I’ve had that exact same thought. “News” happens; it isn’t “made”, or at least shouldn’t be.

Personally, I believe it is a plot to completely divorce the traditional population from the idea of a monarchy - to make it on more amenable to the rule of the prevailing mob.


13 posted on 07/20/2015 4:13:56 AM PDT by Gaffer
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As she spoke, Angela Merkel, the German chancellor who sat at the Queen’s table in Berlin’s Schloss Bellevue along with her husband Joachim Sauer, nodded vigorously, a gesture that did not go unnoticed among observers.
14 posted on 07/20/2015 4:15:40 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Yes, was just thinking about that too. The Queen is meant to be ‘above politics’, since Britain is a Constitutional Monarchy.

However, yes, she did say somethings along the lines of, and I paraphrase, Europe needs to be united...

I subsequently read that her comments were interpreted, by some, as being indirectly political; particularly in relation to the UK and whether the UK will continue to be in the EU.

I believe David Cameron was present during that recent state banquet in Germany. Anyway, Britain, I think, will hold a referendum regarding the choice of continuing to be in the EU. So, it isn’t simply the Queen’s call. But, it may be her “influence” ... perception & grey lines, so to speak.


15 posted on 07/20/2015 4:20:25 AM PDT by odds
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The article seems to manage to give the impression that 'The Duke of Coburg' was a British aristocrat.

His actual title makes things a bit clearer - the Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. He was a German aristocrat.

He had been a British one in his youth - as Duke of Albany, he was a Prince of the United Kingdom. But he was stripped of those titles for choosing to side with Germany during the First World War - never mind the Second one.

16 posted on 07/20/2015 4:28:21 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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I see this as much ado about nothing. Prior to the sensationalism that Hitler brought about due to this manner of salute, it was the Olympic salute as well as the salute given for the pledge of allegience right here in the US of A.


17 posted on 07/20/2015 4:39:30 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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This no surprise! Most of the elite in Britain, western Europe and the United States were infatuated with Hitler and Mussolini, as well as Lenin and Joe Stalin. The whole lot of them were converts to Social Darwinism and the ugly pseudo-science of eugenics. It wasn’t until Hitler popped their balloons by invading neighboring countries that they even considered the possibility that they were deluded. And once the full extent of the Holocaust was known, they made sure history has forgotten their culpability in letting these monsters gain power.


18 posted on 07/20/2015 5:55:39 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus (iI)
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Let’s see. Socialists hate the idea of royalty. They bring out ANYTHING to embarrass the Royals, to push for their departure.

Who here has not goofed around during family home videos? In 1933, Hitler was named Chancellor of Germany. To most European eyes, he was a bombastic, buffoon (sounds like a certain Kenyan fellow who is so admired also by the socialists). In 1933, no one expected Herr Schickelgruber to maintain power and set the world afire like he did. I’m sure the Royals were just mocking the Nazis in that video. History repeats, with the bombastic buffoon in the white but, aided by his socialst media pals. Another one seeking to set the world afire.


19 posted on 07/20/2015 6:11:57 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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Let's not forget Henry Ford, Joe Kennedy, Charles Lindbergh and countless thousands of German Americans who prevented America's entry into WWII until 27 months after war began and 18 months after Europe became a Nazi province, all because of admiration for Germany's 'economic miracle' under Hitler. Sheeple, of all nations, are easily led astray.

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20 posted on 07/20/2015 6:31:43 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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