Posted on 02/12/2016 9:28:19 AM PST by CharlesOConnell
The Red Dragon of Socialism-Communism errs on the side of top-political level state planning of industries beyond the technical compentencies of its state-terror/secret-police, it gets lost in ensuring the prerogatives of its party elites.
Fascism (Gates, Buffett, Soros, Rockefeller, Ford, Roth Schild, Midas, Croesus, et. al...Koch Bros. are chump-changers), errs on the side of ruthless efficieny and economy of scale, reducing people to the status of machines, but Hitler was proof that even the Black Dragon eventually strays off its original mission to feather the beds of elites.
A definition of Fascism interpolating Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope with Jules Archer's The Plot to Seize the White House:
If you were a sausage maker in 1910 Germany, you would either have to join the Sausage Cartel, to have your wholesale prices regulated, or, if you refused, you might become sausage yourself.
This is economy of scale, ruthless operating efficiency, that relegates human beings to the status of economic objects.
The criticism of Cottage Industries that we read in High School in the 1970s was -- they were inefficient. No one who has read or seen a movie of Dickens would have any illusions that industrialization brought about any improvement of workers' lives. There were calls in the 19th c. British Parliament to burn on the docks, finished goods for which there was no export demand, to keep poor workers occupied.
An old-style Central Banker (from the period prior to Monopoly Capitalism, called Financial Capitalism), Hjalmar Horace Greeley Schacht, was heard screaming behind closed doors at Hitler, who had cemented his political power by going before the leaders of German Industry, the Krups, Thyssens and IG Farbens, hat in hand promising to use his gangster militias--he had two, the Brownshirts and Blackshirts--to guarantee labor peace.
Schact eventually ran afoul the Nazis, mysteriously survived the death camps, after the war to found the German Foreign Trade Bank which he led until 1963.
At the opposite end of the spectrum, Obama's Chicago 1924-1932 Al Capone style government, isn't concerned with economy of scale or operating conditions at all.
Obama jumps right to ensuring the prerogatives of the political elite.
That's why despite the competing dynasties, Obama can be relied upon to support Clinton.
“Democracy is indispensable to socialism... The goal of socialism is communism... Hatred is the basis of communism.” —Vladimir Lenin
Communism kills:
http://reason.com/blog/2013/03/13/communism-killed-94m-in-20th-century
http://www.scottmanning.com/content/communist-body-count/
https://www.schwarzreport.org/resources/essays/why-communism-kills
There is no difference.
Every one of those ideas is rooted in the writings and teachings of Karl Marx.
Everyone forgets that Mussolini was a Communist who didn’t think the Communist party was doing enough for Italy. So he broke away and set up the Fagot Party (Fascist in Italian).
There’s no difference between any of those ideas.
The only difference is the spelling!!!!
Fascists have snappier uniforms.
There is no difference. There’s only different means to the same ends. The goal of socialism-communism-fascism-imperialism, is slavery.
Servitude to a master has been a staple of the human condition since humans have existed. There will always be slaves, and they will always be ruled over by their masters.
It is no different today, only the names have changed.
Fascists have timely trains.
The only difference is just the rhetoric. Marxism was universal in the sense that all that mattered was class. A prol in Germany is the same as a prol in China. Fascism was nationalistic. All Germans were the same whether socio-economic class.
Whether you call it rape or sexual assault, the victim will be hard pressed to know the difference.
Forced collectivization through unbridled government power.
The naming makes no difference.
yep +1000
I am undereducated in economics but there can be no communism or socialism that is real, because of human nature. There will always be an elite class setting the rules. Like you say, it always reduces to slavery.
And because the rules don’t take the good or the bad of human nature into consideration, the rules will never be followed and the elites will have to resort to violence, as will the slaves.
Our Constitution gives some attention to man’s bad human nature but, in its writing, discourages it in favor of elevating our best human nature. It focuses on freedom for each individual. It believes in each individual. Thus the individuals are inspired to stay within the laws.
In the early 80s Reagan’s department of Education merged the education systems of the Soviet Union and the U.S. Charlotte Iserbyt leaked this (as a Sr. Dept of Ed employee) and was fired.
The “Business Plot” were a group of Wall St bankers that tried a coup in 1933 over FDR. Smedley Butler implicated Prescott Bush (among others). Nothing Gen. Butler revealed to the House Committee could be disproved, but nothing was ever done about it.
A friend bought me the French version of this while we were in Paris before the English version was available. The first section is in the form of a legal brief to bring an indictment against Communist leaders based on the same criteria imposed against the Nazi’s after WWII.
Correction:
The goal of socialism-communism-fascism-imperialism, is slavery.....for all but the ruling class and their cronies.
Holy sh!t, that sounds like the U.S....today! /I semi-
That extrapolated definition of Fascism must really have a lot of Quigley — even a touch of his most famous student, Clinton.
My history books show the third way and socialism rebelling against soviet internationalism to be the root of the first European fascists.
I have to admit I have not yet read Quigley and perhaps this reissued trade paperback is the way to do it. The leftist professor that would have been Jesse Ventura’s favorite is going to be a long slog to get through I am afraid.
FreeAtlanta, did you actually read the thing?
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