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Trump's Liberal Talking Points on Bush and 9/11 Won't Hurt Him a Bit
PJ Media ^ | 2-15-2016 | Rick Moran

Posted on 02/15/2016 12:52:41 PM PST by smoothsailing

February 15, 2016

Trump's Liberal Talking Points on Bush and 9/11 Won't Hurt Him a Bit

by Rick Moran

Donald Trump is far ahead in South Carolina, holding a double digit lead over Ted Cruz. So last night's debate wasn't as important to him as it was for other candidates.

All Trump had to do was lay low and absorb the insults and attacks of others, while steering clear of controversial topics. He would emerge bruised but still in great shape to win the vote next Saturday.

But Donald Trump is not one to play it safe, nor allow a criticism to go unanswered. Once again, The Donald defied conventional political wisdom and will probably be stronger for it.

Trump landed on the third rail of Republican politics when he criticized George Bush for 9/11.

Politico:

"The World Trade Center came down during your brother's reign. Remember that," Trump said to the former Florida governor.

Trump went back to the line of attack moments later, after Marco Rubio also defended George W. Bush's record, saying he was grateful it was not Al Gore in the White House on 9/11.

"The World Trade Center came down during the reign of George Bush. He kept us safe? That is not safe. That is not safe, Marco. That is not safe," he continued. "The world Trade Center came down because Bill Clinton [didn't] kill Osama bin Laden when he had the chance to kill him. And George Bush - by the way, George Bush had the chance, also, and he didn't listen to the advice of his C.I.A."

"How did he keep us safe when the World Trade Center...excuse me, I lost hundreds of friends!" Trump said as the crowd booed loudly.

Jeb Bush, who is slated to campaign with his brother on Monday in South Carolina, shot back earlier in the conversation that he was "sick and tired of [Trump] going after my family."

"While Donald Trump was building a reality TV show, my brother was building a security apparatus to keep us safe," he said. "I’m proud of what he did."

Trump interrupted with the 9-11-related attack, and the room booed.

For more than a decade, it has been de rigueur for Republicans to defend President Bush from the kind of attack Trump launched. A Republican couldn't even hint that Bush was responsible for 9/11 without being accused of parroting the sort of attacks that Moveon.org and Code Pink launched against the former president.

But then Trump took the attack one step farther:

"Obviously, the war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake, all right?" Trump said. "We spent $2 trillion, thousands of lives, we don't even have it. Iran has taken over Iraq with the second-largest oil reserves in the world."

"George Bush made a mistake," Trump continued. "We can make mistakes. But that one was a beauty. We should have never been in Iraq. We have destabilized the Middle East."

And finally: "They lied," Trump said of the Bush administration. "They said there were weapons of mass destruction, there were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction."

It's not the first time Trump has said such things. But he was taking a risk, calculated or not, on saying them in South Carolina. George W. Bush remains popular among state Republicans. Perhaps that does not mean everything Bush did remains equally popular, but slamming the Republican former president so hard is a significant gamble for Trump.

For the record, two separate investigative bodies - the 9/11 Commission and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence - both concluded that the Bush administration did not lie about WMD in Iraq. They were wrong, but they didn't mislead anyone deliberately.

Other than that, calling the Iraq War a "mistake" seems a reasonable conclusion in hindsight -- something unavailable to American policy makers before we invaded. But what about the war "destabilizing" the Middle East? I hardly think the so-called "Arab Spring" was inspired by our invasion of Iraq, and given the chaos that has been the fallout of the insurrections in most Middle Eastern countries, it's faintly ridiculous to blame our invasion for destabilizing what was already a chaotic region of the world anyway.

Totally rejecting Republican talking points on Iraq and President Bush may seem like political suicide. But with Trump, such criticisms play directly to his strengths: independent, unafraid to offend anyone, and a pugnacious personality.

I don't think those observations will hurt Trump one bit with his core constituency.



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KEYWORDS: 911conspiracy; bushlied; trump
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To: JohnT416

He’ll keep it up, you can count on it. The man is fearless, the only candidate that has that quality. The rest are spineless wimps by comparison.


21 posted on 02/15/2016 1:08:40 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: TexasCajun
Donald Trump's support of aborted baby part selling Planned Parenthood will have to affect as well.
Jim Jones would be jealous of Donald Trump.
Keep drinking the Kook-Aid.

I had FORGOTTEN about Jim Jones.

I didn't know that Trump supported selling baby parts. SHAME on him.

22 posted on 02/15/2016 1:10:30 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: smoothsailing

Wanna bet?

Trump is throwing another tantrum because internal polls say otherwise.


23 posted on 02/15/2016 1:12:13 PM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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To: Durbin

” At this point it doesn’t matter what he says and it’s embarrassing.”

The Trumpettes reminds me of the mormon supporters of Myth Romney.

They had an excuse for every conflicting position.

Bit like origami.


24 posted on 02/15/2016 1:12:45 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: Sacajaweau

That was my take on it too. Trump is thinking ahead to the General Election.


25 posted on 02/15/2016 1:13:11 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: MeanWestTexan

Pretty much.


26 posted on 02/15/2016 1:13:33 PM PST by Durbin
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To: scooby321
Bush accomplishments

Islam is a Religion of peace

Gave immigration to Muslim Counties

Totally disabled the Middle East and accomplished what?

Nation building

Failed to get Bin Laden at Bora Bora

Did a victory Flight when there was none

Spent our Children's capital in Iraq.

Saddam never had anything to do with 9-11

Gave the Neo Cons carte blanc

Forgot Afghanistan

too many to list all of them

27 posted on 02/15/2016 1:14:05 PM PST by scooby321
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To: dinoparty

Thanks for the compliment. I appreciate it!


28 posted on 02/15/2016 1:15:19 PM PST by usafa92 (Ted and Heidi = Jim and Tammy Faye)
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To: jennychase

It’s on,y trump supporters apparently who jump up and done about common ekection mailers, everyone else just throws them away.


29 posted on 02/15/2016 1:16:29 PM PST by svcw (An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject)
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To: smoothsailing

I disagree strongly with Trump on his remarks about Bush “lying” about WMD’s

But, that is not a make or break issue with me.

But, I think it lends weight to the arguments of those who think Trump isn’t a true conservative.

I am watching and thankfully dont have to vote for awhile now.


30 posted on 02/15/2016 1:18:23 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: GeronL

Sure, I’ll bet. The GOPe doesn’t want to discuss George Bush, they consider him kryptonite.

Trump just innoculated himself against them and the Democrats.


31 posted on 02/15/2016 1:18:39 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

If Trump really a Democrat, shouldn’t Democrats love him instead of attacking him all the time? Why does the media hate him?


32 posted on 02/15/2016 1:18:41 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: LS

Were it not for 9-11, it is not a stretch to say that GWBush would have been a one termer... just like his argyle sock daddy, WWII service aside and all that. The Bush’s are all the way back to Brown Harriman investment bank, establishment. Which is why Barbara still calls Billy bob Clintoon... just like one of her sons. The “other” acceptable “semi-catholic” liberal wing of the “establishment” who .. “went to good schools”. Lord, spare us any more dynasties. We CAN rule ourselves without these people.


33 posted on 02/15/2016 1:19:37 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

My state’s primary isn’t until April 26th. Alot can happen between now and then. For now I favor Trump, warts and all.


34 posted on 02/15/2016 1:22:19 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The WMDs were shipped to Syria. To be later used by... the Syrian “REBELS” the US sponsored. Not by Assad.

The WMD BS is worn out... we found them... in Syria, held by Baathist party Syrians.


35 posted on 02/15/2016 1:22:31 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: TexasCajun
For the record, two separate investigative bodies - the 9/11 Commission and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence - both concluded that the Bush administration did not lie about WMD in Iraq. They were wrong, but they didn't mislead anyone deliberately.

It shouldn't hurt Trump that he concluded as did Hans Blix, that the US and Britain were over-stating their case.

The US senate and house investigations determined Bush was 'wrong'. Wrong for some folks can be reasonably be viewed by others as intentionally wrong.

http://buchanan.org/blog/pjb-shop

I'm looking at the background on Trump and Planned Parenthood.

1. He says to Hugh Hewitt that PP should be defunded.

2. He says to CNN that the abortions at PP should be defunded but that the 'women's health' stuff is good and he'd have no problem continuing those.

3. He says that PP can be viewed as having 2 parts.

What I've not found yet is a quote by Trump saying that he realizes funds are fungible and that he'd ensure that PP would remain unfunded unless it totally stopped doing any abortions.

It is really possible that that is what he meant, but I can't find anything yet that irrefutably proves that is what he meant.

36 posted on 02/15/2016 1:25:31 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 20yearsofinternet

In hindsight, both Bushes were not very good legacy-wise.

Daddy pissed away the Reagan legacy. W turned the middle east into a blood bath.


37 posted on 02/15/2016 1:27:34 PM PST by jimbo807
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To: scooby321

Good leftwing talking points.


38 posted on 02/15/2016 1:30:47 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: jimbo807

The lefties certainly hated Bush.


39 posted on 02/15/2016 1:31:45 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: dinoparty

Stop Whining, Be Happy!

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40 posted on 02/15/2016 1:32:32 PM PST by smoothsailing
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