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Trump's Liberal Talking Points on Bush and 9/11 Won't Hurt Him a Bit
PJ Media ^ | 2-15-2016 | Rick Moran

Posted on 02/15/2016 12:52:41 PM PST by smoothsailing

February 15, 2016

Trump's Liberal Talking Points on Bush and 9/11 Won't Hurt Him a Bit

by Rick Moran

Donald Trump is far ahead in South Carolina, holding a double digit lead over Ted Cruz. So last night's debate wasn't as important to him as it was for other candidates.

All Trump had to do was lay low and absorb the insults and attacks of others, while steering clear of controversial topics. He would emerge bruised but still in great shape to win the vote next Saturday.

But Donald Trump is not one to play it safe, nor allow a criticism to go unanswered. Once again, The Donald defied conventional political wisdom and will probably be stronger for it.

Trump landed on the third rail of Republican politics when he criticized George Bush for 9/11.

Politico:

"The World Trade Center came down during your brother's reign. Remember that," Trump said to the former Florida governor.

Trump went back to the line of attack moments later, after Marco Rubio also defended George W. Bush's record, saying he was grateful it was not Al Gore in the White House on 9/11.

"The World Trade Center came down during the reign of George Bush. He kept us safe? That is not safe. That is not safe, Marco. That is not safe," he continued. "The world Trade Center came down because Bill Clinton [didn't] kill Osama bin Laden when he had the chance to kill him. And George Bush - by the way, George Bush had the chance, also, and he didn't listen to the advice of his C.I.A."

"How did he keep us safe when the World Trade Center...excuse me, I lost hundreds of friends!" Trump said as the crowd booed loudly.

Jeb Bush, who is slated to campaign with his brother on Monday in South Carolina, shot back earlier in the conversation that he was "sick and tired of [Trump] going after my family."

"While Donald Trump was building a reality TV show, my brother was building a security apparatus to keep us safe," he said. "I’m proud of what he did."

Trump interrupted with the 9-11-related attack, and the room booed.

For more than a decade, it has been de rigueur for Republicans to defend President Bush from the kind of attack Trump launched. A Republican couldn't even hint that Bush was responsible for 9/11 without being accused of parroting the sort of attacks that Moveon.org and Code Pink launched against the former president.

But then Trump took the attack one step farther:

"Obviously, the war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake, all right?" Trump said. "We spent $2 trillion, thousands of lives, we don't even have it. Iran has taken over Iraq with the second-largest oil reserves in the world."

"George Bush made a mistake," Trump continued. "We can make mistakes. But that one was a beauty. We should have never been in Iraq. We have destabilized the Middle East."

And finally: "They lied," Trump said of the Bush administration. "They said there were weapons of mass destruction, there were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction."

It's not the first time Trump has said such things. But he was taking a risk, calculated or not, on saying them in South Carolina. George W. Bush remains popular among state Republicans. Perhaps that does not mean everything Bush did remains equally popular, but slamming the Republican former president so hard is a significant gamble for Trump.

For the record, two separate investigative bodies - the 9/11 Commission and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence - both concluded that the Bush administration did not lie about WMD in Iraq. They were wrong, but they didn't mislead anyone deliberately.

Other than that, calling the Iraq War a "mistake" seems a reasonable conclusion in hindsight -- something unavailable to American policy makers before we invaded. But what about the war "destabilizing" the Middle East? I hardly think the so-called "Arab Spring" was inspired by our invasion of Iraq, and given the chaos that has been the fallout of the insurrections in most Middle Eastern countries, it's faintly ridiculous to blame our invasion for destabilizing what was already a chaotic region of the world anyway.

Totally rejecting Republican talking points on Iraq and President Bush may seem like political suicide. But with Trump, such criticisms play directly to his strengths: independent, unafraid to offend anyone, and a pugnacious personality.

I don't think those observations will hurt Trump one bit with his core constituency.



TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 911conspiracy; bushlied; trump
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To: jennychase

If you are going to be insulting someone’s intelligence, use proper grammar. Thanks!


61 posted on 02/15/2016 2:05:41 PM PST by chae (The Lannisters send their regards--Game of Thrones)
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To: dinoparty

You do know that a lot of us long time Freepers support Donald Trump, don’t you?

Calling us dumbasses doesn’t help your cause.


62 posted on 02/15/2016 2:06:10 PM PST by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: John S Mosby

I don’t think Trump is the guy who would do this, but some president needs to step up and say, “Screw this. We are going to be a free country again.”


63 posted on 02/15/2016 2:07:20 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: smoothsailing

Of course they won’t. For his supporters nothing he says or does matters as long as he says the wall once in a while.


64 posted on 02/15/2016 2:07:43 PM PST by Reaper19
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To: FJB

Good post, so true! Thank you.


65 posted on 02/15/2016 2:08:00 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Reaper19

WALL, WALL, WALL, WALL, WALL, WALL!!!!! you are correct right now that is ALL I give a damn about, because WITHOUT the WALL my conservative views won’t EVER AGAIN mean a damn thing!!!!!!


66 posted on 02/15/2016 2:11:40 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: IMR 4350

So, in addition to being “dumbasses”, many of us long-time Freepers who support Trump are now called “clintonites?

Maybe we should start making a list of all the nasty names you call us, just because you aren’t happy about our nationalism.

I have had it with the neocon globalists, and will happily vote for Trump. That does not make me a dumbass or a clintonite.


67 posted on 02/15/2016 2:11:51 PM PST by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: smoothsailing

Yeah.

No.

It has already hurt and it will continue to hurt Trump. It’s called a “recording”. It’s called a “record” and Trump’’s “record” is hurting him

Trump’s inconsistent (read “wildly iratic”) record is catching up with him. His bluff and bluster won’t distract even his most irrational followers from the obvious truth: Trump is a godless narcissist.

I don’t want to replace one godless narcissist with another.

Trump is over. Done. Good-bye.


68 posted on 02/15/2016 2:12:55 PM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: 4rcane

Trump is the Dhimmicrat’s insurance policy. All they have to do to pay the premium is say a few bad things about him and they get a devout party member on both tickets. Jimmy Carter almost let the cat out of the bag.


69 posted on 02/15/2016 2:16:29 PM PST by chickenlips (Oh No! They're having another Trumpertantrum!)
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To: kinsman redeemer
Trump is over. Done. Good-bye.

Too funny! 8^)

70 posted on 02/15/2016 2:30:21 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

by admitting that he is a liberal. That’s going to help?

lol


71 posted on 02/15/2016 3:06:28 PM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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To: GeronL

So, what’s your bet? I’ve told you he wpn’t be hurt by this. Millions of Republicans share his view on Iraq and 9-11. It’s not just a liberal opinion.


72 posted on 02/15/2016 3:11:28 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: LS
Agree.

The "GOP Establishment" IS the Bush family. The whole organization reflects the Bush outlook and Bush sensibilities, having purged the Reaganites. THE GOPE IS STAFFED ENTIRELY BY BUSH HIRES.

Everything we hate about the GOPe is a result of the Bush-Reagan split, in which the Bush family was left standing. There was a divorce, and the Bushes got the Party.

Explains everything: GOP weakness, patrician global mindset, underhanded "operative" hack dealings, lust for compromise. The GOPe is hated for a reason - it has done everything it can to torpedo the old American strengths.

Here's the thing. Trump has analyzed the source of the problem, and is directly attacking it, in his way. He is going after the king. And when you hit the king, you have to ... succeed.

W is, this week, coming to Trump's ground to meeting him in battle. This is a high stakes showdown, happening in full view. Outcome unknown.

73 posted on 02/15/2016 3:18:51 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: kinsman redeemer
Trump is over. Done. Good-bye.

Any minute now.

74 posted on 02/15/2016 3:25:00 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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