Posted on 08/24/2016 7:20:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
There’s no such thing as bad publicity. Yesterday the Hill reported that Hillary Clinton would be giving a big speech Thursday aimed at the so-called alt-right:
Clinton’s campaign announced Tuesday morning that her Reno, Nev., speech would focus on Trump and his aides’ “embrace of the disturbing ‘alt-right’ political philosophy.”
“This ‘alt-right’ brand is embracing extremism and presenting a divisive and dystopian view of America which should concern all Americans, regardless of party,” her campaign said.
I don’t know what Hillary will be saying tomorrow but one thing I’m pretty certain of is that attacking the alt-right isn’t going to lessen their influence. On the contrary, Dave Weigel writes today that some in the movement are actually looking forward to it:
On the alt-right itself, the speech is being welcomed as a sort of coming-out party; alt-right figures are finding their phones and email boxes glowing with new messages, asking to explain who they are and what they think.
That’s the reality here. Hillary Clinton is a candidate for president. By attacking the alt-right she’s elevating them in this election. She’s insuring lots of previously marginal voices will be appearing on cable news to discuss this topic. Hillary openly inviting them to center stage in the national debate.
I don’t think that’s accidental or some kind of miscalculation. On the contrary, I think she wants to elevate those voices for obvious political reasons.
From Hillary’s perspective, there’s really no downside to kicking this particular hornet’s nest. The inevitable response to her comments will only help solidify the idea that the Republican party is now the party of white nationalism, something many party leaders would dispute. Hillary needs to secure a high percentage of the black and Latino vote to get elected and starting this debate will help her do that. Also, her camp has been pushing for more moderate voices in the GOP to denounce Trump. This could accelerate that process as people who are not on the alt-right begin to wonder whether they can remain in a party in which that group has a growing voice. Strategically, politically it’s a smart move for Hillary. I get that.
But I think this could be very bad news for America and I wonder if Clinton’s camp has even paused to think about that at all.
Last year we saw a white racist shoot black church-goers. This summer we’ve seen riots in major cities and racist black radicals murdering white police officers in revenge killings. Racial tension is high. It has spilled over into violence multiple times already.
Trump has been criticized plenty for his tone, for his tweets. That’s fair game and I’ve criticized it myself. But make no mistake, Hillary’s speech tomorrow is going to significantly elevate the alt-right’s status on the national stage. She can pretend she’s trying to take them down all she wants but in reality she’s giving them a gift. This is the kind of national publicity the alt-right could never buy.
I heard Rush discussing the Alt-right today. It would seem that it is libertarian, and other offshoots of the Conservatives.
Not necessarily, in the classic sense of libertarianism. Libertarians are geared toward the individual. Many (not all) alt-rights are geared toward tribalism/their group.
Apparently, after 30 yrs of being a Republican/conservative I am now considered alt-right!
the correct the record shills of Hillary
labels everyone who supports trump as such.
First, they yell out the talking points they get paid 8hr to spew, then they yell racist or bigot
then they go away.
They here yet?
I heard Rush discussing the Alt-right today. It would seem that it is libertarian, and other offshoots of the Conservatives.
“Alt right” is code for White Supremacism. The plan is to call us racists and lump anybody opposed to the progressive agenda in with the KKK types to marginalize us. Hillary is late to the party. Paul Ryan has already done it several times. It’s pure Alinsky, IMO.
If it’s such bad news, then why do we send our young men to die for it, on behalf of a tribal ethnostate called Israel?
I have no problem with defending Israel, mind you, I just insist that we should also be allowed to embrace ethnostate nationalism for ourselves as well, instead of losing our jobs, being banned from forums, etc., if we advocate it.
That’s a huge part of the appeal of Trump, btw — he carries the alt-right message when he says, “ Either we have a country, or we don’t. If we don’t have a border, we don’t have a country.”
Trump reads and listens to Ann Counter. Ann is red-pilled. Ann and Donald realize that whites worked and fought to win and populate this land, and have been brainwashed into abandoning our hard-won territory to third-world savages. Much of the Trump energy and momentum is about NATIONALIST morality; that of our conquering ancestors, who enforced strict policies on Ellis Island and who rounded up the Issei and Nissei after Pearl Harbor, and who executed Operation Wetback — all because they had common sense about what makes a nation truly a natiin, and what imperatives preserve it.
I know you’re well-versed in this, and I appreciate you expanding on the alt-right here.
However, the rampant, naked racism and anti-Semitism that I’ve encountered from the already-racist and-anti-Semitic alt-right tweeps is extremely disturbing. I want no part of it.
Moreover, closing ranks around white nationalism also ignores the very real and freedom-focused contributions of black Americans and freed slaves that found their footing in the post-CW era. The people that the NRA was founded to help defend... and that the KKK was formed to disarm.
Wrong. Just wrong.
Americanism is not tribalism.
Being pro-Israel is not either.
Peddle this poison somewhere else.
Yes.
And it’s worth pointing out that for all that conventional conservatives cherish individualism and the franchise of suffrage, elections ARE collectivist in nature!
I suspect you meant Alt-Right, not Alt-Rights.
I’m a proud member of the Alt-Right.
Not Tribal or into being defined as part of some group especially by some leftist tools.
A libertarian, almost an Anarchist but with guard rails.
My guard rails are the Bible, our Constitution and my Conscious.
I won’t be told what to think or do by any man that thinks they know better.
I am not a group.
I will not be defined.
Elections are divided into the smallest piece practically possible - statewide elections.
And yet our individual votes are at the core of it.
No, I’m not going to be a collectivist. Enjoy, though.
Hillary will try to tar all of the alt-right with the KKK-brush, and get flamed to a crisp within milliseconds.
(This is because most of the leaders of the alt-right have IQs >= 150, and have a very low tolerance for unsupported boilerplate.)
I mean that as a short-hand for alt-right adherents.
Your guardrails are as solid as they get. I suspect this umbrella label covers a vast variety of people with a few intersecting commonalities.
I reject collectivism. It’s been a disaster throughout history, and human nature has not changed.
Of course... we’ll see how this comes out.
I’ve seen, and clashed with, enough of the alt-right on Twitter to see that many of them deserve that brush. The 1488 profile photos, Hitler Photoshop work, all sorts of Third Reich-based artwork... and the tweets themselves. As I said upstream, they comprise the vast majority of my block list.
Like the Tea Party got trashed by name, I wouldn’t be surprised if the alt-right name evolved to something else.
What does that mean? No clue. Alt-right. I guess it is cool coding for something cool, like a cool trend.
Vin Scully last week said that there once was a baseball player named “Joe Cool” who played for the White Sox a thousand years ago.
Classic Scully. He completely made that up. And it is a delightful story.
The alt-right make Peter Brimelow look like a moderate.
The alt-right are bringing fresh energy and insights to stagnant conservatism.
Tell me, when whites are a dwindling minority in America, what will become of our cherished “rule of law,” our jurisprudence and refined cultural institutions, our civic life, nature preservation, technological prowess, and so on?
Thank you.
If Kellyanne Conway or any of her people are paying attention to the posts here on FreeRepublic.
I strongly recommend that they advise Trump to take the following approach.
Trump needs to “Call out” Hillary, Her media idiots and the entire Democrat parties efforts to “Define” individuals and to put people into groups for the sole purpose of gathering votes. The history of these efforts are well documented and easy to explain.
Trump needs to make an appeal to the Individual.
Trump needs to tell people that they are better than some predefined “Group” some idiot Democrat wants to place them in.
Trump needs to inspire the Individual to be an Individual, to be an American.
Trump must
Fair enough, it’s just that the alt-right is a neo-reactionary extreme response to the cuckservatives’ corruption and submission to the Left. The alt-right is necessary and make many valid points. For exampke, for all of the reverence and awe afforded our founders and forefathers on sites like FR, they WERE in fact white nationalists and white supremacists; there’s no denying it, just read their own words and study history.
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