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HOW CAN IT BE SO HARD TO REPEAL A LAW NO ONE WANTED?
Free Republic ^ | 3/23/2017 | Mr K the Know it all

Posted on 03/23/2017 1:08:48 PM PDT by Mr. K

HOW THE HELL CAN IT BE THIS HARD TO REPEAL A BILL THAT: 1) NO ONE WANTED 2) WHICH COSTS FAR MORE THAN EXPECTED 3) WHICH WAS BUILT ON LIES ABOUT REDUCING COSTS AND 4) KEEPING YOUR PLANS AND DOCTORS AND 5) IS DOOMED TO FAILURE????


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To: Mr. K
HOW CAN IT BE SO HARD TO REPEAL A LAW NO ONE WANTED?

Trump's First Mistake - He let Paul Ryno "take the lead" on drafting the bill. Ryno, never one to be trusted and certainly no friend to Trump, responded with "passive resistance" - appear like you're working toward a goal, when in reality you're trying to torpedo it.

41 posted on 03/23/2017 1:33:52 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Todays Media - Report the TRUTH and acts of TREASON and get fired. Ask Judge Napolitano.)
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To: Mr. K
HOW THE HELL CAN IT BE THIS HARD TO REPEAL A BILL THAT: 1) NO ONE WANTED 2) WHICH COSTS FAR MORE THAN EXPECTED 3) WHICH WAS BUILT ON LIES ABOUT REDUCING COSTS AND 4) KEEPING YOUR PLANS AND DOCTORS AND 5) IS DOOMED TO FAILURE????

The truly puzzling part is why they want to replace it with a scheme that will do all those same things all over again?

42 posted on 03/23/2017 1:34:01 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Mr. K
I have a friend who signed up for Obamacare because her employer dropped her. She got a new job and has good insurance now, but Obamacare keeps automatically signing her up. They will not let her go.

Do the Republicans really think they can fix it?

Here is a crap machine - let's repair it a little and let it keep spewing out crap.

43 posted on 03/23/2017 1:34:04 PM PDT by Slyfox (Where's Reagan when we need him? Look in the mirror - the spirit of The Gipper lives within you.)
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To: dp0622

I agree...we did without government insurance for over 200 years, so WTF is so urgent about “replacing” something we didn’t want to begin with?

Kill Obamacare dead, and be done with it!


44 posted on 03/23/2017 1:35:33 PM PDT by FrankR (FULL REPEAL, OR NO DEAL)
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To: Mr. K
It's not just as simple as a repeal.

What's on the table is a repeal and replace.

For some, it's the repeal they oppose; for others it's the replace they oppose. Trying to get both sides to agree on a compromise is the tricky part.

45 posted on 03/23/2017 1:36:40 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Antoninus
"Hey genius—Trump is behind this awful bill...."

Actually, Trump is behind setting Ryan up to be replaced, genius.

46 posted on 03/23/2017 1:37:07 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: navysealdad

They didn’t have anything to replace it when they sent 6 repeal bills to Obama.

They were bluffing, and now they are exposed.

Trump wasn’t supposed to win, and the GOP was not supposed to be in a position where they could actually do anything.

Oopsy.


47 posted on 03/23/2017 1:37:51 PM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: humblegunner

I agree with the poster on ALL CAPS! This healthcare scam is worthy of SHOUTING about.

If you’d join the discussion on the content instead of playing editor, you might have something of value to contribute.

THANK YOU!


48 posted on 03/23/2017 1:38:12 PM PDT by FrankR (FULL REPEAL, OR NO DEAL)
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To: FrankR

I quite agree. Kill it dead.

Offer up text to do that you can get past the Parliamentarian or get 60 votes.

Where’s your text that achieves that? Where is it? You haven’t provided anything that will get 60.

You haven’t provided any that will pass the Parliamentarian.

There is no 2 speech magical work around because of amendments and points of order, each of which can get 2 speeches.

Get 60 or you have NOTHING.


49 posted on 03/23/2017 1:38:31 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Mr. K

They never wanted to.

Uniparty rino leadership does not have a problem with it.

It just gave them something to keep republicans being elected and keeping them in their upper party positions.


50 posted on 03/23/2017 1:39:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: chris37

bttt


51 posted on 03/23/2017 1:39:46 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life ~ Vote!)
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To: Owen

Oh and btw, wackos.

Ryan has been Speaker less than 2 years. HE DIDN’T WANT THE JOB. The GOP offered up several names, some even your style wackos, and none could get a majority.

That’s right. NO ONE ELSE COULD GET A MAJORITY.

You should thank the Almighty for Paul Ryan because without him there would be no GOP leadership at all. AT ALL.

You don’t like the leadership? Offer up someone else who can get a majority. You already tried. You had nothing.


52 posted on 03/23/2017 1:42:35 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Rashputin
Actually, Trump is behind setting Ryan up to be replaced, genius.

With who?

53 posted on 03/23/2017 1:42:40 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Mr. K

Because the Republicans know from this point forward after they repeal it that anything that is wrong in the healthcare sector will be totally on them. The media will run 24/7 stories totally eviscerating the Republicans over and over and over again


54 posted on 03/23/2017 1:43:48 PM PDT by BRL
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To: Mr. K

Once the gub’mint has its fangs in you, it’s a one way trip.


55 posted on 03/23/2017 1:43:56 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: dp0622
Repeal it and let market forces do their thing.

That's a bit oversimplified.

If 0bamacare is repealed, we're returned to the situation before it existed.

And that situation was by no means one which "let market forces do their thing".

That's why any repeal must include provisions which mitigate the situation as it existed before 0bamacare was passed.

Make no mistake: when 0bama initially got this piece of sh!t passed with a Democrat Congress, you can bet your last dollar that they did it in such a way as to absolutely prevent a repeal in the future. They put in every conceivable obstacle, bureaucratic or otherwise. Repeal & replace is a gargantuan task, if anyone expects the situation to improve—not merely improve over 0bamacare, but improve over the situation that existed before 0bamacare.

So any process of repealing 0bamacare must include addressing the conditions that prevailed which led to something like 0bamacare being proposed in the first place.

Governing is hard sometimes, and we should expect it to be especially so in cases such as this.

So everybody take a deep breath. This, too, shall pass...

56 posted on 03/23/2017 1:44:19 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: Mr. K
The million dollar question!

The fact is that Ryan doesn't want it repealed, he wants to tweak it.

57 posted on 03/23/2017 1:45:31 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: South Hawthorne

That would be the simple way to do it, it will die without funding.


58 posted on 03/23/2017 1:46:32 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: xkaydet65

And we are now suppose to believe the polls?


59 posted on 03/23/2017 1:47:48 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: DoodleDawg
Depends on how a couple of other things work out but there are about three people who are ardent Trump supporters who Trump respects and likes, and that few if any people would think even has their hat in the ring.

I suppose you think the alternatives would all be just as bad, but realistically, if Trump can shed Ryan, he'll at least get someone who wasn't openly anti-Trump during the campaign and most likely, someone who will be as anxious to work with him as with the then pissed off crowd who backed Ryan.

Or, it could be one of the dark horses Trump prefers.

60 posted on 03/23/2017 1:49:13 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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