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Astrological Community Has Some Interesting Theories About Why Hillary Clinton Lost 2016 Election
Refinery29 ^ | July 9, 2017 | Caitlin Flynn

Posted on 07/10/2017 3:40:24 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In the days, weeks, and months since Donald Trump's surprising victory, there's been endless speculation and debate about what cost Hillary Clinton the presidential election.

In May, Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight wrote that the October 28 Comey Letter very likely cost Clinton the presidency. There's also evidence that sexism, both conscious and unconscious, helped tear down one of the most qualified candidates in history. And all of this is to say nothing of potential Russian interference.

Well, here's a new one: Members of the astrological community believe that the exact time of Clinton's birth on October 26, 1947, may be responsible for her loss.

According to Broadly, political astrologers have spent decades obsessing over the exact moment Clinton's life began. Knowing a person's birth time is key to figuring out their rising sign, which is used to determine their house cusps: key information when it comes to making predictions about a person's life path.

Apparently, Clinton's time of birth has been a topic of debate for the past two decades. Although it's been reported that Clinton confirmed at least once she was born at 8 p.m., there are several rumored birth times for the former presidential candidate and the answer could determine whether she has an "eminent" birth chart or a "sh*tty" one.

"Astrologers are very resourceful when it comes to finding birth time," says Annabel Gat, Broadly's staff astrologer, "and Hillary's chart is a very notable case where it's just been impossible and such a drama."

Since the 1990s, astrologers have claimed that Clinton was actually born at 8 a.m. and some have stated she doesn't want the public to know her exact birth time. (Although this seems pretty unlikely, because there's no evidence that Clinton has any interest or knowledge regarding astrology.)

As it turns out, many wanted to believe that Clinton was born at 8 a.m. despite precious little evidence to support this assertion. An 8 a.m. birth time would have indicated she has an "eminent birth chart," and hope springs eternal.

"I think that people were gravitating towards the 8 AM time because Hillary looks really strong, and we all really wanted Hillary to win for a lot of reasons; the astrological community is overwhelmingly Democratic," explains Danny Larkin, the vice president of the Association for Young Astrologers.

For his part, Larkin believes Clinton was born at 8 p.m., but he thinks that, regardless of exact birth time, the candidate's chart was "sh*tty." He notes that her Venus is in "terrible shape," under attack by both Mars and Saturn, and her Sun is also under attack.

"There's something about her where she doesn't light up the room," Larkin says. "There's something about her sun; it's not able to shine as brightly as it wants to shine."

Still, there's nothing "utterly cataclysmic" in Clinton's chart. So it's, uh, a pretty big leap to chalk up her loss to astrology when there were so many other factors at play.

Nevertheless, political astrologists continue to speculate. Only this time, they're looking towards what Donald Trump's birth chart could mean for his future. Many astrologers say that the eclipse on August 21 bodes terribly for Trump because it falls directly on Leo, his rising sign.

"All of the astrologers are talking about it… It's this really wild, prominent thing that everybody in the country is going to see in August, and it happens to be very much closely tied into Trump's chart," says an unidentified political astrologist.

But, of course, nothing is ever certain: "In terms of what that specifically means, and in terms of whether that's something negative for [Trump] or something that's negative for the country as a whole, I don't know," he adds.

This information is interesting and all, but I'm sticking to my theory that a perfect storm of external factors (the aforementioned email scandal, Benghazi witch hunt, sexism, and overall dislike and distrust for Clinton) is responsible for her loss.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Politics; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: astrology; barkingmoonbat; excusesforhillary; hillary; junkscience; pseudoscience; trump
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To: csvset
Help me out... was her exact moment of birth BEFORE or AFTER Sir Edmund Hillary summited Everest?!?!?
21 posted on 07/10/2017 4:18:04 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She was not born. Someone turned over a rock... and there she was!


22 posted on 07/10/2017 4:19:20 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Finally! We can put to rest how the unthinkable happened.


23 posted on 07/10/2017 4:25:31 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rabid insanity. It has been nearly 9 months since Hillary lost the election. To quote Hillary “ At this point what difference does it make”.


24 posted on 07/10/2017 4:25:34 AM PDT by okie 54
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To: xp38; freefdny
That's scary.

The same quote only 1 minute apart.

25 posted on 07/10/2017 4:27:28 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Dr. Pritchett
Hillary's birth. Pic related.


26 posted on 07/10/2017 4:31:41 AM PDT by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: mountn man

Must be something in my horoscope about it. :)


27 posted on 07/10/2017 4:32:36 AM PDT by xp38
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BTTT


28 posted on 07/10/2017 4:36:58 AM PDT by DrDude (Get rid of everything Obama or Clinton!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

>>If you believe in astrology try this experiment. Read yesterday’s horoscope and honestly evaluate if any of the stuff mentioned happened to you.

Read EACH of the horoscopes for that day and see if several of them can be applied to your circumstances simultaneously.


29 posted on 07/10/2017 4:37:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ( Mr. Comey, did you engage in or know of ANY OTHER leaks?)
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To: csvset

The “Russian collusion” story is a witchhunt with crooked members of the government’s unelected offices feeding the hunt (and pushing the press to “press” for more heat).


30 posted on 07/10/2017 4:39:39 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ( Mr. Comey, did you engage in or know of ANY OTHER leaks?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have my own theory why Hillary lost: People didn’t want a person who killed more people indirectly than a mass murderer. Also, a cigar store Indian (not Squaw SpeakingBull) has more personality.


31 posted on 07/10/2017 4:41:02 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
... one of the most qualified candidates in history.
Their premise is flawed. All of this is noise trying to prove a false premise describing the "least qualified candidate in history."
32 posted on 07/10/2017 4:42:34 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hillaryous Rotten Criminal was...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5u8aARWAv4


33 posted on 07/10/2017 4:48:45 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“eminent” birth chart or a “sh*tty” one”

How about eminently sh*tty’


34 posted on 07/10/2017 4:55:12 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With everything to investigate about HiLiary they focus on this nonsense


35 posted on 07/10/2017 5:01:42 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“My belt is older than she is.”

And I’ll bet your belt is prettier, too.


36 posted on 07/10/2017 5:03:41 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Negative people make healthy people sick." - Roger Ailes)
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To: TMA62

Not just Uranus....everyone’s anus.

[anusii? anae? the anus of the many?]


37 posted on 07/10/2017 5:05:05 AM PDT by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: a fool in paradise
The whole "Russia" escapade has been exposed as nothing more than a failed plot to overthrow the president, The Swamp Creatures have taken some hits, they're thrashing about wildly, dangerously.

These are interesting times, the implosion of the old guard media. CNN seriously wounded in the Meme Wars, lol.

38 posted on 07/10/2017 5:07:10 AM PDT by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"helped tear down one of the most qualified candidates in history"

That right there is why they will never understand why she lost... she was totally UN-qualified

39 posted on 07/10/2017 5:08:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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To: cba123

“I am totally for Palin. She was the best candidate recently, until Trump came along. But she didn’t have that same instinct.”

Yes. She didn’t have the KILLER instinct that DJT has. I still have a “Palin 2012” shirt.


40 posted on 07/10/2017 5:10:21 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Negative people make healthy people sick." - Roger Ailes)
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