Antodotes does not represent the silent majority....
Posted on 07/15/2006 10:48:32 AM PDT by Xing Daorong
I don't understand, some people say that Islam is responsible for terrorism today, rather than those who manipulate and perversely interpret Islam to further their murderous aims.
Islam is so similiar to Christianity that there isn't even a point to it, every quote showing "Judeao-Christian hatred" can be logically explained by anyone who has read the Quran.
We have groups like Muslims for Bush (now Muslims for America) a primarily Republican group of American muslims supporting the War on Terror.
"war is not against Islam the president even said that himself, it is against fundamentalism that seeks to destroy everything we stand for."
As Islam is fundamentally violent, this war is against everyone who takes Islam as a religion seriously. Nominal Muslims obviously don't. Sgt Akbar certainly did.
Spin you mean?
Antodotes does not represent the silent majority....
"To compare Islam and Nazism is to compare rabbits and lions, they cannot be compared because Islam would never tolerate what the Nazis did to innocent Russians, Slavs, Poles, Catholics, Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, and Handicapped."
Sure it would. Ask the Armenians. We just haven't seen much of it in the last 200 years because Islam has been militarily weak.
Terrorists based on 'religion' will always use one quote or another taken out of context to claim the moral high ground. Islam gives no justification for sawing the heads off of innocents or blowing yourself up in a resteraunt, and if it does I would like someone to post a damn quote to prove it.
The spread of Islam was done most by Abu Bakr and Umar, not Muhammed.
"Spin you mean?"
I do believe the good poster is a taqqiya artist.
A very intelligent and to the point post Killborn, bravo. :)
"Islam gives no justification for sawing the heads off of innocents or blowing yourself up in a resteraunt, and if it does I would like someone to post a damn quote to prove it."
This first statement is a lie and the rest is answerd by Sura 9.
"The spread of Islam was done most by Abu Bakr and Umar, not Muhammed."
Mohammad either launched or led himself at least 55 campaigns of conquest. He personally ordered the mass execution of prisoners and the rape of their wives. He was the lowest form of scum. He was no holy man, but a bandit who invented a religion for the purpose of conquest and theivery.
Zot my ass, I am as conservative as any of you, I support Republican candidates and am a devout Roman Catholic, I don't believe it is right to villify one faith because of the hideous actions of terrorists who claim to be on their side.
HUH? If you were anywhere NEAR similarity to Christianity you wouldn't deny Jesus' death on the Cross, that He was the Son of God, or deny His Divinity. No.. Islam is NOTHING like Christianity.
I don't know if anyone mentioned their "prophet" - who married Aisha when she was 6 years old. Consummated it at 9 years old. How he took joy in the deaths of those who mocked him. He was a sick and vile man. I see no evidence that he had anything but cruelty in his heart.
Who threatens to kill your family? Terrorists or your average Muslim on the street?
If Muslims really want you and this country dead then explain this:
www.muslimsforamerica.us
"And when the sacred months are passed, kill those who join other gods with God wherever ye shall find them; and seize them, besiege them, and lay wait for them with every kind of ambush: but if they shall convert, and observe prayer, and pay the obligatory alms, then let them go their way, for God is gracious, merciful." Sura 9:5
""Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the Last Day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled. The Jews say, "Ezra is a son of God"; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is a son of God." Such the sayings in their mouths! They resemble the saying of the infidels of old! God do battle with them! How are they misguided? They take their teachers, and their monks, and the Messiah, son of Mary, for lords besides God, though bidden to worship one God only. There is no God but He! Far from His glory be what they associate with Him! Fain would they put out God's light with their mouths: but God only desireth to perfect His light, albeit the infidels abhor it. He it is who hath sent His Apostle with the guidance and a religion of the truth, that He may make it victorious over every other religion, albeit they who assign partners to God be averse from it." - Sura 9:30
If you are really a Catholic, you are very ignorant about this "faith" you defend. Read the Koran. Read at least some of the Hadiths (which are worse). The calls of violence and conquest in the Old Testement are not comparable, as they were limited in scope. There were no "kill the infidel" commands that extend into the future.
I guess he believes that these "infidels" are going to buy it. NOT. :)
"If Muslims really want you and this country dead then explain this:
www.muslimsforamerica.us"
PR. The German-American Bund presented a "nice" front too, once upon a time.
Very good post, I agree there is a problem in Islam of those who appease or look onward as terror occurs around them, but we must remember that like you said not all support or turn a deaf ear to terrorism.
"I guess he believes that these "infidels" are going to buy it. NOT. :)"
Indeed. We can read for ourselves.
Besides, "ye shall know them by their actions".
Wrongo. I know MEMRI. They monitor MidEastern broadcasts and publications. Some of them are from terrorists. Most of them are from Arab/Iranian governments. The principle concern of these regimes is to stay in power by printing anti-US and Israel propaganda and using the guise of Islam to turn their populous' attention away from the corruption and despotism of the government. In fact, a lot of the rulers in these states aren't even religious. They use jihad as a veil to hide their ture intention, staying in power and enriching themselves at the cost of their people. They could be Confucius and they would still spout the same hate and terror because they need to stay in power. They aren't doing it because of the Koran. They are doing it because if they don't, the peiople will see what they really are and overthrow them.
This is no different than the race pimps "blame whitey" routine. It has nothing to do with belief or ideology. It's lust for power and greed, pure and simple.
And the Catholic Church hasn't? Read about what they did to the Cathars in Gaul, or what they did to everyone inside Jerusalem in the Crusades. I am a Catholic and a practicing one but up until the classical ages the Vatican has had a dark and unpleasent history. Islam is not the only faith spread through war, Catholocism and Protestantism has been as well.
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