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European Skin Turned Pale Only Recently, Gene Suggests
Science ^ | April 2007 | Ann Gibbons

Posted on 04/27/2007 10:23:12 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGISTS MEETING:

European Skin Turned Pale Only Recently, Gene Suggests Ann Gibbons

PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA--At the American Association of Physical Anthropologists meeting, held here from 28 to 31 March, a new report on the evolution of a gene for skin color suggested that Europeans acquired pale skin quite recently, perhaps only 6000 to 12,000 years ago

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: africa; aryan; aryanshmaryan; centralasia; darwin; darwinracist; dna; european; evolution; evolutionaryscale; gene; godgravesandglyphs; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; india; iran; pale; racist; racistdarwin; skin
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To: Elpasser
Yes, well, “scientists” also tell us that there will no blonds left in the US by the end of this century due to the influx of darker people and the recessive nature of the blond coloration gene.

They're pretty stupid considering that blonde is in the bottle.

61 posted on 04/27/2007 12:46:25 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: John Will
"Could be a descendant of Alexander’s army. Also aren’t central asians, persians as pale as europeans?"

Nah. Read this:

On The Presence Of Non-Chinese At Anyang


62 posted on 04/27/2007 2:34:43 PM PDT by blam
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To: SirLinksalot; SunkenCiv
Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin

By Rick Weiss
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 16, 2005; A01

Scientists said yesterday that they have discovered a tiny genetic mutation that largely explains the first appearance of white skin in humans tens of thousands of years ago, a finding that helps solve one of biology's most enduring mysteries and illuminates one of humanity's greatest sources of strife.

The work suggests that the skin-whitening mutation occurred by chance in a single individual after the first human exodus from Africa, when all people were brown-skinned. That person's offspring apparently thrived as humans moved northward into what is now Europe, helping to give rise to the lightest of the world's races.

Leaders of the study, at Penn State University, warned against interpreting the finding as a discovery of "the race gene." Race is a vaguely defined biological, social and political concept, they noted, and skin color is only part of what race is -- and is not.

In fact, several scientists said, the new work shows just how small a biological difference is reflected by skin color. The newly found mutation involves a change of just one letter of DNA code out of the 3.1 billion letters in the human genome -- the complete instructions for making a human being.

"It's a major finding in a very sensitive area," said Stephen Oppenheimer, an expert in anthropological genetics at Oxford University, who was not involved in the work. "Almost all the differences used to differentiate populations from around the world really are skin deep."

The work raises a raft of new questions -- not least of which is why white skin caught on so thoroughly in northern climes once it arose. Some scientists suggest that lighter skin offered a strong survival advantage for people who migrated out of Africa by boosting their levels of bone-strengthening vitamin D; others have posited that its novelty and showiness simply made it more attractive to those seeking mates.

The work also reveals for the first time that Asians owe their relatively light skin to different mutations. That means that light skin arose independently at least twice in human evolution, in each case affecting populations with the facial and other traits that today are commonly regarded as the hallmarks of Caucasian and Asian races.

Several sociologists and others said they feared that such revelations might wrongly overshadow the prevailing finding of genetics over the past 10 years: that the number of DNA differences between races is tiny compared with the range of genetic diversity found within any single racial group.

Even study leader Keith Cheng said he was at first uncomfortable talking about the new work, fearing that the finding of such a clear genetic difference between people of African and European ancestries might reawaken discredited assertions of other purported inborn differences between races -- the most long-standing and inflammatory of those being intelligence.

"I think human beings are extremely insecure and look to visual cues of sameness to feel better, and people will do bad things to people who look different," Cheng said.

The discovery, described in today's issue of the journal Science, was an unexpected outgrowth of studies Cheng and his colleagues were conducting on inch-long zebra fish, which are popular research tools for geneticists and developmental biologists. Having identified a gene that, when mutated, interferes with its ability to make its characteristic black stripes, the team scanned human DNA databases to see if a similar gene resides in people.

To their surprise, they found virtually identical pigment-building genes in humans, chickens, dogs, cows and many others species, an indication of its biological value.

They got a bigger surprise when they looked in a new database comparing the genomes of four of the world's major racial groups. That showed that whites with northern and western European ancestry have a mutated version of the gene.

Skin color is a reflection of the amount and distribution of the pigment melanin, which in humans protects against damaging ultraviolet rays but in other species is also used for camouflage or other purposes. The mutation that deprives zebra fish of their stripes blocks the creation of a protein whose job is to move charged atoms across cell membranes, an obscure process that is crucial to the accumulation of melanin inside cells.

Humans of European descent, Cheng's team found, bear a slightly different mutation that hobbles the same protein with similar effect. The defect does not affect melanin deposition in other parts of the body, including the hair and eyes, whose tints are under the control of other genes.

A few genes have previously been associated with human pigment disorders -- most notably those that, when mutated, lead to albinism, an extreme form of pigment loss. But the newly found glitch is the first found to play a role in the formation of "normal" white skin. The Penn State team calculates that the gene, known as slc24a5, is responsible for about one-third of the pigment loss that made black skin white. A few other as-yet-unidentified mutated genes apparently account for the rest.

Although precise dating is impossible, several scientists speculated on the basis of its spread and variation that the mutation arose between 20,000 and 50,000 years ago. That would be consistent with research showing that a wave of ancestral humans migrated northward and eastward out of Africa about 50,000 years ago.

Unlike most mutations, this one quickly overwhelmed its ancestral version, at least in Europe, suggesting it had a real benefit. Many scientists suspect that benefit has to do with vitamin D, made in the body with the help of sunlight and critical to proper bone development.

Sun intensity is great enough in equatorial regions that the vitamin can still be made in dark-skinned people despite the ultraviolet shielding effects of melanin. In the north, where sunlight is less intense and cold weather demands that more clothing be worn, melanin's ultraviolet shielding became a liability, the thinking goes.

Today that solar requirement is largely irrelevant because many foods are supplemented with vitamin D.

Some scientists said they suspect that white skin's rapid rise to genetic dominance may also be the product of "sexual selection," a phenomenon of evolutionary biology in which almost any new and showy trait in a healthy individual can become highly prized by those seeking mates, perhaps because it provides evidence of genetic innovativeness.

Cheng and co-worker Victor A. Canfield said their discovery could have practical spinoffs. A gene so crucial to the buildup of melanin in the skin might be a good target for new drugs against melanoma, for example, a cancer of melanin cells in which slc24a5 works overtime.

But they and others agreed that, for better or worse, the finding's most immediate impact may be an escalating debate about the meaning of race.

Recent revelations that all people are more than 99.9 percent genetically identical has proved that race has almost no biological validity. Yet geneticists' claims that race is a phony construct have not rung true to many nonscientists -- and understandably so, said Vivian Ota Wang of the National Human Genome Research Institute in Bethesda.

"You may tell people that race isn't real and doesn't matter, but they can't catch a cab," Ota Wang said. "So unless we take that into account it makes us sound crazy."

63 posted on 04/27/2007 2:48:11 PM PDT by blam
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To: Post Toasties
"Plenty of light skinned Asiatics in Korea, China & Japan, etc. What is suggested wrt them?"

See my post #62 & 63.

64 posted on 04/27/2007 2:50:41 PM PDT by blam
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To: NavyCanDo

My Great grandfather had red hair and blue eyes, he was Italian.


65 posted on 04/27/2007 2:56:36 PM PDT by exdem2000
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To: SirLinksalot

Damn, born 12,000 years too late. Could have been in the NBA.


66 posted on 04/27/2007 4:15:43 PM PDT by gotribe ( I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution... - Grover Cleveland.)
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67 posted on 04/27/2007 9:01:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, April 26, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Charles Henrickson

yuda king.


68 posted on 04/27/2007 9:02:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, April 26, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: CarrotAndStick

They’re called “Indo-European Languages” for a reason.

The ancestors of the northern Indians and the ancestors of the native Indo-European language speakers in Europe (which is everybody but Basques, Finns, Hungarians and new immigrant arrivals) both started somewhere in north central Asia. Some went west and became the Europeans. Some went south and became the Indians and Persians. The languages are related, and the people are genetically related. That’s why Sanskrit and ancient Greek are close, but neither is related to the intervening Hebrew.

Incidentally, the proper term for the original Indo-Europeans is...Aryans (meaning “Owners” in Sanskrit). The REAL Aryan race were the originators of ALL of the Europeans AND the northern, light-skinned Indians.

And the Iranians. In fact, Iran only got its name in the age of Hitler. It was always Persia (or Parthia, or Media, et al) before that. The Persians, proud to not be ARABS or anything like the Turkic peoples who surround them to the north, glommed onto the racialist theories coming out of Europe, especially Germany, at the time. And so they named the country “Aryan”. That is what “Iran” is, and means. “Iran” is Farsi for “Aryan”. Persia consciously renamed itself “Aryan”, to specifically identify the race of its people. And Farsi is indeed related to English, in the same genetic tree. But Turkish and Arabic are not.


69 posted on 04/27/2007 9:12:58 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Many Indians have a LOT of English and Scots blood in them from the long period the Brits ruled India (or tried to).


70 posted on 04/27/2007 9:30:47 PM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: SirLinksalot

I think this ispolitical corectness driving science.

Its now politically correct to emphasize the similarity between the races and this theory does exactly that.

In reality, skin pigmentation is only a suerficial distinction between “black” “white” and “oriental” humans.

There are much more defining characteristics and traits linked to bone structure and biochemistry and genetics.

And there are some “whites” who have darker skin than some “blacks”


71 posted on 04/27/2007 9:34:36 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: gotribe

Are you tall and athletic?


72 posted on 04/27/2007 9:51:26 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: SunkenCiv

very interesting.

I still think all of the colors of humans were present in the earliest families, and they then separated into new regions, creating new tribes by inbreeding with cousins who looked like them.
I think of the twin brothers Jacob (small, dark, smooth) and Esau (large, hairy, redhead).


73 posted on 04/27/2007 10:02:17 PM PDT by ValerieTexas
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To: ValerieTexas

What Esau the first time he looked in a mirror must have taken him by surprise.


74 posted on 04/27/2007 10:40:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, April 26, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Fairview

A tiny proportion of the population, actually. They are known as Anglo-Indians.

The British were careful in that regard, to not cause a mass uprising by interfering with the gene pool. The ones where inter-breeding took place, and their offspring, are the Anglo-Indians. They were given special protection after India’s independence for various reasons.


75 posted on 04/28/2007 12:27:03 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Elpasser
All the other women are having children too,

Ancient people lived and traveled in relatively small tribes. Any environmental breeding advantage one tribe obtained (such as immunity to vitamin D deficiency) could easily trigger a widespread expansion and replacement in just a few centuries.

76 posted on 04/28/2007 5:36:34 AM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Yeah, but as you well know, Indians are caucasians.


77 posted on 04/28/2007 7:41:40 AM PDT by null and void (The truth. It is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution.)
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To: Always Right
Fixed your typo:

Pale-skinned women must be easier to find in the dark...

78 posted on 04/28/2007 7:43:26 AM PDT by null and void (The truth. It is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution.)
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To: baclava

Yep. Under current rules one could register as Afro-American, fairly arguing that if one goes far enough back, all of one’s ancestors came from Africa...


79 posted on 04/28/2007 7:46:21 AM PDT by null and void (The truth. It is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution.)
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To: Dudoight
The mutation rate of life takes simply ages, not a single generation or just two people can change a whole segment of the population.

A very busy guy might...

80 posted on 04/28/2007 7:49:35 AM PDT by null and void (The truth. It is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution.)
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