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Source: Vick 'one of the heavyweights' in dogfighting
ESPN ^ | Updated: May 27, 2007, 10:48 AM ET | By Kelly Naqi

Posted on 05/27/2007 11:45:56 AM PDT by Perdogg

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To: Perdogg
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Vick merits NFL penalty at very least

21 posted on 05/28/2007 4:55:35 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Perdogg
NFL culture has to change
22 posted on 05/28/2007 4:56:54 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: RayChuang88
I agree with the first part; Goodell will ban Vick for at least a year for lying to his face about his involvement (maybe even longer if he adds in time for the actual dog fighting). I also agree that Vick gets cut and all endorsments are off.

As far as Vick having the potential of being an all-time great, I haven't seen anything in the last six years that would make me believe that he is even a good quarterback, much less a great quarterback. He earns his popularity by playing to the bling-bling crowd.

23 posted on 05/28/2007 7:12:41 AM PDT by flair2000
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To: flair2000
As far as Vick having the potential of being an all-time great, I haven't seen anything in the last six years that would make me believe that he is even a good quarterback, much less a great quarterback.

Vick could have been another Steve Young under the right coach, in my humble opinion.

24 posted on 05/28/2007 7:47:31 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Perdogg

Michael Vick? The football player? I can’t remember ever hearing or reading anything good about him.


25 posted on 05/28/2007 2:02:54 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: Continental Soldier
Michael Vick? The football player?

Don't you mean "Ron Mexico?"

26 posted on 05/28/2007 2:06:35 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: dfwgator

Does he use that name while torturing dogs also?

I thought he just used it because he has herpes and likes to lie to women about it prior to unprotected sex.


27 posted on 05/28/2007 2:25:46 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: rickdylan

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0405051vick1.html

He looks like a really good man.

Please continue to support him.


28 posted on 05/28/2007 2:28:01 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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I'd not said anything about Vick, just about dog fighting.

A case similar to that of pit bulls could likely be made for the Utes and Commanches, who were forced into some sort of a peace treaty ending 800 years of war about thirty years ago or thereabouts. They say that fighting is so bred into those guys at this point that if a week goes by and they don't get into some sort of a fight, they get sick.

29 posted on 05/28/2007 3:10:22 PM PDT by rickdylan
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Even though you don’t have a peer reviewed cite I will run with it.

Utes and Commanches trained their young to protect their tribe.

Scum like Vick breed these dogs to fight so that they can bet on the outcome and then kill them at the end of their career.

I am part American Indian and for you to compare their actions raising children to pieces of shit like Vick is enough for me to wish doom on you.


30 posted on 05/28/2007 3:25:47 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: rickdylan
A case similar to that of pit bulls could likely be made for the Utes...

"Did you just say 'Utes'?"

31 posted on 05/28/2007 5:50:08 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Eaker

Sorry, that likely sounded worse than was intended. I was pointing out that there actually are both people and animals who are inherently warlike.


32 posted on 05/28/2007 6:14:31 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Got three golden retrievers......once the dog owning NFL fan understands that to train a p/b to fight, they often have to offer up a defenseless mutt (often picked up at shelters) for the p/b to whett his appetite on, then Vick is going to be done for.


33 posted on 05/29/2007 6:32:16 AM PDT by stationkeeper
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To: Perdogg

YIKES!


34 posted on 05/29/2007 6:39:27 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Perdogg

Nonsense.

Mutts have just as much trouble as any given purebred.

That all is a myth.

It depends on the heritage, and plenty “pure” heritage is good. Although not enough!


35 posted on 05/29/2007 6:41:41 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: rickdylan

Moslems, anyone?


36 posted on 05/29/2007 6:47:07 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: RayChuang88

He could have been an ultimate wishbone quarterback if anybody in the NFL ever had the brains to try something like that.


37 posted on 05/29/2007 9:04:42 AM PDT by jeddavis
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To: Baynative
Thank you. What you said.

maybe Vick could take up the UFC and get a taste.

38 posted on 05/29/2007 9:40:34 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (The evil which you fear becomes a certainty by what you do.)
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SOME pit bulls are bred for viciousness and abused from birth to make them even more so. If they lack in viciousness, they are hung, shot, electrocuted or beaten to death. Those that survive are further abused, starved and then thrown into a deep pit with another bull dog where their only way to survive is to maim or kill their own kind. If they survive and lose, they are beaten more or killed; if they survive and win, they get to do this again and again.

“Enjoy” is not an adjective that I think applies to any aspect of these animal’s lives.


39 posted on 07/18/2007 3:04:56 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr

The only reasonable use I’ve ever heard of for pit bulls is hog hunting. Dog fighting is not reasonable and Michael Vick is an a**hole. At this point I’m pretty much writing the NFL off; they no longer have anything I’m interested in.


40 posted on 07/18/2007 5:10:56 AM PDT by rickdylan
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