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If not for us, it would be very, very cold, University of Wisconsin-Madison study says
Wisconsin State Journal ^ | Dec. 16, 2008 | RON SEELY

Posted on 12/17/2008 2:16:37 PM PST by decimon

Consider yourself lucky. It could be much, much colder outside -- like ice age cold.

Researchers at the University of Wisconsin-Madison have used powerful computer climate models to show that, were it not for a rise in global temperatures that started thousands of years ago with the first clearing of European forests, we would be entering another ice age. Glaciers would be growing instead of melting. Your back would be even more sore from shoveling.

(Excerpt) Read more at madison.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: algore; catastrophism; evironment; globabalwarming; globalcooling; globalwarming; iceage
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1 posted on 12/17/2008 2:16:37 PM PST by decimon
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To: steelyourfaith; SunkenCiv

Hug a tree ping


2 posted on 12/17/2008 2:17:44 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

Got to be more to this.

The PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF MADISON cannot not wander off the DemoRAT reservation.


3 posted on 12/17/2008 2:18:22 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: decimon
More-guesswork-based-upon-unreliable-computer-models ping.
4 posted on 12/17/2008 2:18:40 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Abortion has become little more than the New Left's execution of political prisoners.)
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To: decimon

OK - so what caused the previous ice ages and what was the cause of them melting???

The last one was around 25,000 years ago ... what caused that one to melt?


5 posted on 12/17/2008 2:19:06 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: decimon; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; Desdemona; rdl6989; Little Bill; ...
Thanx !

 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

6 posted on 12/17/2008 2:19:54 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: SkyDancer
OK - so what caused the previous ice ages and what was the cause of them melting???

The last one was around 25,000 years ago ... what caused that one to melt?

Mastodon flatulence.

7 posted on 12/17/2008 2:21:01 PM PST by decimon
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To: SkyDancer

The frist SUV. Granted, it was made of sticks, twine, and leaves...


8 posted on 12/17/2008 2:21:51 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: decimon
have used powerful computer climate models

I used powerful computer models to show that aliens can be defeated with hand-held mini-guns.

9 posted on 12/17/2008 2:22:44 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: decimon

Figures .....


10 posted on 12/17/2008 2:23:24 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: Army Air Corps

And powered by Mastodon flatulence.


11 posted on 12/17/2008 2:23:59 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: decimon

What a load of bovine excrement.


12 posted on 12/17/2008 2:24:11 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (God helps those who help themselves. The government helps those who don't.)
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To: SkyDancer

probably solar cycles that were uncharted then- or maybe they were charted

the mayans and egyptians were actually pretty sophisticated at the physical science


13 posted on 12/17/2008 2:25:11 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
What a load of bovine excrement.

Mastodon excrement.

14 posted on 12/17/2008 2:26:22 PM PST by decimon
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To: silverleaf

The reason for my reply is these lib’s are saying it’s our fault for global warming - if so, what caused the last few ice ages to end?


15 posted on 12/17/2008 2:29:35 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: decimon

some scientists in Arizona (Institute of CO2 Studies?) published some studies years ago showing that the earth would benefit by increasing CO2 because it would allow food production ot stay steady or increase (especially with population growth) as more traditional areas (Russia China Canada and US) lost production due to cooling


16 posted on 12/17/2008 2:30:05 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: decimon

some scientists in Arizona (Institute of CO2 Studies?) published some studies years ago showing that the earth would benefit by increasing CO2 because it would allow food production ot stay steady or increase (especially with population growth) as more traditional areas (Russia China Canada and US) lost production due to cooling


17 posted on 12/17/2008 2:30:08 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: decimon

“He linked increases in atmospheric methane and carbon dioxide in the ice cores to a time about 5,000 years ago when humans commenced large-scale rice farming in Asia and extensive deforestation of European forests.”

Models, smodels. They’ll tell you anything you want to hear as long a you plug in the right assumptions. But I’ve heard it said often that one large volcanic eruption can put more CO2 into the air, and other matter than years of man’s activities. And, what did these folks assume about the sun, and changes in sun activity and sunspot activity?


18 posted on 12/17/2008 2:30:24 PM PST by Will88
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To: SkyDancer
. . .what caused that one to melt?

There was a clan of cavemen--the Al Gorestone tribe blowing a lot of hot air.

19 posted on 12/17/2008 2:31:37 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: SkyDancer

If we’re cooling without industrialization, is that not confirmation that we’re cooling (with industrial pollution output declining)?


20 posted on 12/17/2008 2:32:12 PM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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