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Mystery of Landlocked Sockeye in the Fossil Record (British Columbia)
Scientific Blogging ^ | July 14th 2009 | Heidi Henderson

Posted on 07/15/2009 5:01:45 PM PDT by decimon

The mystery of the landlocked salmon in the fossil record from the Interior of British Columbia has been a topic of hot debate for a number of years. Salmon have permeated First Nations mythology and have been prized as an important food source for thousands of years. In the Interior of British Columbia, archaeological evidence dates the use of salmon as a food source back 3,500 years. Sheri Burton and Catherine Carlson were able to isolate and amplify mitochondrial DNA from salmon remains from archaeological sites near Kamloops, and identified the species as Oncorhynchus nerka, or Sockeye salmon.

No older salmon remains had been found in the Kamloops area until the 1970’s, when fossil salmon concretions were collected on the south shore of Kamloops Lake. These concretions were originally dated as Miocene (24 – 5.5 million years old) by the Geological Survey of Canada, based on analysis of pollen grains found in the concretions. However, many local experts, including UBC geology professor W.R. Danner and the late geologists W.H. Mathews and Richard Hughes, suspected the remains were from the much more recent, Late Pleistocene epoch.

But it was not until the early 1990s that Catherine Carlson and Ken Klein found definitive proof of this. By good luck, the fish remains in the Kamloops Lake concretions had not been completely replaced by minerals – enough of the original organic bone collagen remained for radiocarbon dating. The corrected date is approximately 18,000 years.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs

1 posted on 07/15/2009 5:01:46 PM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Ice fishing ping.


2 posted on 07/15/2009 5:02:49 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Guess I’m not understanding the importance of this. Are they unsure of how the sockeye got there or what?

We catch salmon here in Michigan that aren’t traditionally landlocked species.


3 posted on 07/15/2009 5:13:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: decimon
archaeological evidence dates the use of salmon as a food source back 3,500 years

I bet salmon tasted good before that too.

4 posted on 07/15/2009 5:15:43 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: cripplecreek

The salmon in Michigan were stocked there by people in recent times. The landlocked sockeyes (called kokanee) in the Pacific NW weren’t.


5 posted on 07/15/2009 5:19:28 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: cripplecreek
Guess I’m not understanding the importance of this.

That in the last ice age, the glaciers receded sooner than has been thought in some areas. That people habituated those areas sooner than has been thought. Or so it seems from this finding.

The author concentrated on the salmon but the other stuff caught my eye. And the picture. I like the picture.

6 posted on 07/15/2009 5:33:50 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Pollen grains, 24-5.5 million years, carbon dating, 18,000 years? Well, that inspires confidence in the dating methods of the learned men.


7 posted on 07/15/2009 8:20:30 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Thanks decimon.
 
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8 posted on 07/16/2009 7:07:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Thanks decimon.

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9 posted on 07/16/2009 7:08:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: decimon

A salmon of doubt?


10 posted on 07/16/2009 7:12:27 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 177 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: decimon

Simple.

They were inhabiting the rivers and lakes before the peak of the last ice age.


11 posted on 07/16/2009 9:43:52 PM PDT by djf (Man up! Don't be a FReeloader! Make a donation today!)
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To: decimon

Begs to question whether salmon were originally fresh water creatures or have always been salt to fresh migrational.


12 posted on 07/17/2009 4:27:18 AM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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Begs to question whether salmon were originally fresh water creatures or have always been salt to fresh migrational.

Good question. Life is in the sea. Birth and death in the stream.

13 posted on 07/17/2009 5:18:25 AM PDT by decimon
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To: cripplecreek
I thought the salmon in the lakes were planted to eat eels. Tahoe has salmon - it is landlocked also. They were planted.
14 posted on 07/17/2009 5:22:08 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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