Posted on 11/24/2009 1:46:39 PM PST by Steelfish
This is also a great reference site: http://www.carm.org/mormonism Sorry, I don’t know HTML to provide a hyperlink...plus I’m lazy.
You've been repeatedly asked to IDENTIFY the poster YOU think are being harsh and judgemental; but have FAILED to do it?
Why?
Matt 21:12 & 13 Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. "It is written," he said to them, " 'My house will be called a house of prayer,' but you are making it a 'den of robbers.'
Mark 11: 15 & 16 On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple area and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts.
Luke 19: 45 & 46 Then he entered the temple area and began driving out those who were selling. "It is written," he said to them, " 'My house will be a house of prayer' ; but you have made it 'a den of robbers.' "
Did you ever read Matthew 23 when Jesus uses strong words to condemn the Pharisees?
There is nothing that demands that *love* must be mushy, feely good, don't ruffle anybody's feathers and tell them what they don't want to hear kind of behavior. Telling someone the truth is love. Not telling them the truth is hating them. It doesn't depend on the feelings of the hearer and whether the person feels *offended* or not.
Praying for someone to repent is good, but it is not enough. They need to hear the truth and for that to happen, someone must tell them. That requires a confrontation of some kind, a truth confrontation. The person hearing it often does not react well of receive it well, but that is totally beside the point. It is not love to let someone go on a self-destructive path that is going to lead them to hell.
The truth is that if someone doesn't accept the Jesus of the New Testament, the one and only God incarnate who died for our sins, one is not a Christian, no matter how *Christian* that person's behavior is.
And voting liberal is not conservative no matter what verbiage one spews and how one tries to justify it.
A true conservative cannot in good conscience vote liberal, no matter what label the candidate is wearing. Republican does not equal conservative. These days, the label of *Republican* is meaningless.
“Christ will judge the motivations of our hearts. Was it done for our glory or for His.”
The Pharisees thought they were doing all that criticizing and laying down of the Law for the glory of God too. They were very sure they were saved. They were positive they had the authority through their knowledge of Scripture to condemn others.
We know what Christ thought of them.
You seem to have scrambled your verses and come up with something non-Scriptural.
Mark 14:21
The Son of Man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.
Matthew 18:5-6
But whoso shall offend one of thes little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged around his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Because I don’t want to, obviously. Why are you so upset about it?
Are you taking it personally? Why?
Pushing people away from Christ in the name of Christ would be betraying Him, wouldn’t it?
“No way in Outer Darkness would I ever vote for Mitt. I don’t trust him, he flip-flops too much.”
Ok.
Lying to people to not hurt their feelings would be betraying Christ and God.
If you don't believe what any of the Christians on this forum have said, read the Bible for yourself and see what Christ says.
He didn't mince words. Matter of fact, He came on pretty strong sometimes.
Would you accuse Him of *pushing people away*?
You know, sometimes He did. Those who wouldn't believe were offended by His words and walked away from Him. But it wasn't Him.
The truth is that anyone without Christ is lost, the Christ of the NT, God Incarnate.
Ah, yes. Jesus did deliver the Sermon of the Parties where he clearly delineated the Christian position on 21st Century American politics. Don’t you have that one on DVD?
“It only comes naturally when you’re not a Christian.”
Are Catholics Christian? Yes or no.
The modern American “Oprahized” version of Christianity has blurred the lines between customers and competition for many...
That’s love, not live, this blackberry is killin’ me...
The wedding clothes represent the Righteousness of Christ, the covering of His blood. Not our actions.
The wedding guest tried to get in without the appropriate covering, the blood of Christ.
It has nothing to do with actions or our “works”, it is about our Faith in the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross.
Those who fail to appear at the judgment clothed in the Righteousness of Christ (not OUR “righteousness”) will be cast to Hell.
but it DOES have to be the Christ of the Bible, not some made up “elder brother” who is created being, earn godhood ecetera.
The followers of the REAL Christ, are Christians.
And I know you know that, sister.
:)
What's it to you?
Why is that such an issue for you that you have to harp on it?
Why are you trying to cause such contention between denominations?
The only reasonable conclusion that someone can come to about your constant questioning of it when its not relevant to the discussion is that you are trying to cause sectarian division. Why are you doing that?
And I say that as a Christian.
Are you referring to the ones who follow the teachings and dogma of the blessed and Holy Faith of Rome that holds the Bible as the true and correct word of God?
Or are you referring those "Catholics" who find and try and push the idea that the Bible is, (lets see how did you put it, oh yeah) nothing but “allegory” a collection of cute and sometimes meaningful tales for the masses?
I am quite sure the former are some of the best examples of the Christian faith out there....
The others...
(Sorry metmon, low hanging fruit, it's too tempting...)
You seem to base your entire presence here on your perspective of your Christianity, e.g., Christians do this or Christians don’t do that. I would therefore find it instructive to know what your definition of a Christian is, and just whom you would admit to the faith under your definition.
Your answer, please.
I’m referring to Catholics.
If you eat the fruit, you have to answer the question.
I’m sorry—was that haughty?
Wooooooo.
I guess Lutherans aren't Christians either.They believe in Martin Luther. Woooooooo!
You really need a new hobby.
They do not believe in the deity of Christ. Do you think that could be a problem?
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