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Ancient Amazon civilisation laid bare by felled forest
NS ^ | 10 Dec 2009 | Linda Geddes

Posted on 12/11/2009 8:13:05 AM PST by BGHater

Signs of what could be a previously unknown ancient civilisation are emerging from beneath the felled trees of the Amazon. Some 260 giant avenues, ditches and enclosures have been spotted from the air in a region straddling Brazil's border with Bolivia.

The traditional view is that before the arrival of the Spanish and Portuguese in the 15th century there were no complex societies in the Amazon basin – in contrast to the Andes further west where the Incas built their cities. Now deforestation, increased air travel and satellite imagery are telling a different story.

"It's never-ending," says Denise Schaan of the Federal University of Pará in Belém, Brazil, who made many of the new discoveries from planes or by examining Google Earth images. "Every week we find new structures." Some of them are square or rectangular, while others form concentric circles or complex geometric figures such as hexagons and octagons connected by avenues or roads. The researchers describe them all as geoglyphs.

Garden villages

Their discovery, in an area of northern Bolivia and western Brazil, follows other recent reports of vast sprawls of interconnected villages known as "garden cities" in north central Brazil, dating from around AD 1400.

The geoglyphs are formed by ditches up to 11 metres wide and 1 to 2 metres deep. They range from 90 to 300 metres in diameter and are thought to date from around 2000 years ago up to the 13th century.

The geoglyphs are thought to date from around 2000 years ago up to the 13th century


Some 260 giant avenues, ditches and enclosures have been spotted from the air in a region straddling Brazil's border with Bolivia

(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: amazon; amazonriver; ancientciv; bolivia; brazil; gardencity; godsgravesglyphs; science; southamerica

1 posted on 12/11/2009 8:13:09 AM PST by BGHater
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To: SunkenCiv

Not Z, ping.


2 posted on 12/11/2009 8:13:36 AM PST by BGHater (America is a Kakistocracy.)
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To: BGHater

What! The forests that are being de-forested were not always forests???????


3 posted on 12/11/2009 8:18:10 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: BGHater

Interesting.


4 posted on 12/11/2009 8:20:14 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: BGHater

Deforestation has it’s benefits. Great! Who know what else we will find.


5 posted on 12/11/2009 8:22:13 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: blam; muawiyah

*ping* (great photos, too)


6 posted on 12/11/2009 8:22:39 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Cities in clearings, surrounded by forests, no doubt.

But you knew that.


7 posted on 12/11/2009 8:22:44 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
What! The forests that are being de-forested were not always forests???????

Looks like someone got to trash the planet before we got a chance to do it. Ba$tards!

8 posted on 12/11/2009 8:29:47 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: BGHater

Cool. Maybe we should cut down more rain forests to see what’s under ‘em.


9 posted on 12/11/2009 8:38:10 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Trees grow back.

In my locality you can see the former corn and hay fields being retaken by the woods;the clear space shrinks yearly as more bushes and small trees replace the grass and weeds.

10 posted on 12/11/2009 8:51:50 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
What! The forests that are being de-forested were not always forests???????

Nope....Them trees were an "Invasive Species" and the loggers were just "restoring" the land to it's natural state.

;-)

11 posted on 12/11/2009 8:53:04 AM PST by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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To: BGHater

“America BC” was written in the late 70’s.
http://www.shvoong.com/books/dictionary/1836244-america-barry-fell-book-review/

America B.C. By Barry Fell: The Book Review Book Review
This book is about the possbility of people coming to America centuries before Columbus, the Vikings, monks, and the Chinese.

http://phoenicia.org/america.html
“...In one of the coins studied by McMenamin, a horse stands atop a number of symbols at the bottom of the coin. For many years, scholars interpreted these symbols as letters in Phoenician script. When that theory was discounted in the 1960s, it left scholars baffled. Working over the past few months, McMenamin was able to interpret the design as a representation of the Mediterranean, surrounded by the land masses of Europe and Africa, with, to the upper left, the British Isles. To the far left of the representation of the Mediterranean is what the geologist believes is a depiction of the Americas...”


12 posted on 12/11/2009 8:57:20 AM PST by WellyP
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To: BGHater
O/T, but I found it very interesting: the first chapter of a book titled Ancient Scotland (Stewart Ross, 1991), discusses the Paleolthic Age and its effect on Scotland. The second sentence of the second paragraph on the first page of the chapter reads as follows:

Over the last million years or so the earth has been subject to massive fluctuations in surface temperature, beside which current forecasts of global warming by a degree or two appear relatively unimportant.

During one of the interglacial periods, the sea levels were some 35 metres above present levels.

Had I been allowed a "do over" in life, I might have been a history professor. Humans, particularly liberal do-gooders, have this knack for disregarding everything that happened before they graced the face of the earth. These discoveries in the Amazon lend credence to the previous statement.

13 posted on 12/11/2009 9:07:27 AM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: BGHater
Paging Mr. Jones...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

14 posted on 12/11/2009 9:29:24 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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15 posted on 12/11/2009 4:06:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Cool stuff. Thanks for the post.
16 posted on 12/11/2009 4:26:33 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: WellyP

Oh damn... Mormon Ping


17 posted on 12/11/2009 5:03:02 PM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: SunkenCiv

The area is a mere 200 km from the inca lands

This is trivial when compared with the distances involved on the Chaco meridian. There was certain interaction with the folks closer to the water.

When they say no contact with the Nazca lines I think hmmm

The more we learn, the less we know


18 posted on 12/11/2009 5:24:23 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: colorado tanker

My pleasure.


19 posted on 12/11/2009 8:27:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: bert

It was generally considered strange (when thought about at all) that among the largest rivers of the world, the Amazon (greatest of them all) didn’t have an associated civilization or two. In recent decades, that has been shown to be not true — all a matter of taking a look, really. :’)

The African Source Of The Amazon’s Fertlizer
Science News Magazine | 11-18-2006 | Sid Perkins
Posted on 11/18/2006 4:22:58 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1740969/posts


20 posted on 12/11/2009 8:37:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: BGHater
The traditional view is that before the arrival of the Spanish and Portuguese in the 15th century there were no complex societies in the Amazon basin

And yet the flipping Spanish and Portuguese who were actually the first in told them that there were large and complex in the Amazon basin.

Why do we have a tendency to write off multiple first hand accounts as lies?

21 posted on 12/11/2009 8:46:17 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/expedition-week/3819/Overview

Lost cities of the Amazon.

22 posted on 12/11/2009 8:49:37 PM PST by votemout
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the ping! Absolutely fascinating...


23 posted on 12/11/2009 11:18:54 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: LibertyRocks

Thanks LibertyRocks!


24 posted on 12/12/2009 7:24:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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