Skip to comments.Just Spoke W/ Very Senior USN Officer. Says MSM and public school-educated citizenry have No Clue.
Posted on 11/10/2010 4:08:36 AM PST by upstanding
Just spoke with old friend, very senior retired USN skipper. Says his contacts, many of whom were his "boys," are concerned with how stupid the MSM and Americans are and at how the Internet has fueled rampant ignorance.
As I was calling him, he was calling me to call my military and IC friends to have a laugh and share some scotch to ease our aching heads.
LOL. Seemed that way to me.
Thank you, I will chew on those. :)
I keep putting succeeding links at the top. LOL.
This link has the following quote from 1844--soooo, that would be back at least 134 years. My mistake. 166+ years--not 110 years:
And a number of experts trace it back 400 years.
"From the days of Sparticus, Wieskhopf, Karl Marx, Trotsky, Rosa Luxemberg, and Emma Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
Winston Churchill, stated to the London Press, in l922.
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
Woodrow Wilson,The New Freedom (1913)
"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."
Benjamin Disraeli, first Prime Minister of England, in a novel he published in 1844 called Coningsby, the New Generation
"The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers, but also with the secret societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and can at the last moment upset all the governments' plans. "
British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, 1876
. . .
"What is important is to dwell upon the increasing evidence of the existence of a secret conspiracy, throughout the world, for the destruction of organized government and the letting loose of evil."
Christian Science Monitor editorial, June 19th, l920
"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties."[QX: NO "practically" to it--they do--totally--control both.]
New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922
. . .
"We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world."
Professor Arnold Toynbee, in a June l931 speech before the Institute for the Study of International Affairs in Copenhagen.
"The government of the Western nations, whether monarchical or republican, had passed into the invisible hands of a plutocracy, international in power and grasp. It was, I venture to suggest, this semi-occult power which....pushed the mass of the American people into the cauldron of World War I."
British military historian MajorGeneral J.F.C. Fuller, l941
"For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But, he didn't. Most of his thoughts, his political ammunition, as it were, were carefully manufactured for him in advanced by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money group. Brilliantly, with great gusto, like a fine piece of artillery, he exploded that prepared "ammunition" in the middle of an unsuspecting target, the American people, and thus paid off and returned his internationalist political support.
"The UN is but a long-range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power.
"The depression was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market....The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank."
Curtis Dall, FDR's son-in-law as quoted in his book, My Exploited Father-in-Law
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson."
A letter written by FDR to Colonel House, November 21st, l933
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes."
Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952
"Fifty men have run America, and that's a high figure."
Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, in the July 26th, l936 issue of The New York Times.
"Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government - a bureaucratic elite."
Senator William Jenner, 1954
"The case for government by elites is irrefutable"
Senator William Fulbright, Former chairman of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, stated at a 1963 symposium entitled: The Elite and the Electorate - Is Government by the People Possible?
"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nation states involved. As managers and creators of the system, they will rule the future."
U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater in his l964 book: With No Apologies.
"The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups."
Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time (Macmillan Company, 1966,) Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University, highly esteemed by his former student, William Jefferson Blythe Clinton.
The earliest at this link is 1915:
Here's a longer list from:
AND THEY SAY IT"S A CONSPIRACY...
Date: Tuesday, 10 August 2004.
Quotes from world leaders who reveal in their words as well as their actions what they have planned for us. Out of their own mouths they admit their goal is a one world government known as the NWO.
"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas." - Brock Adams, Director UN Health Organization
"A world government can intervene militarily in the internal affairs of any nation when it disapproves of their activities." - Kofi Annan, U.N. Secretary General
"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." . . .
[QUIX NOTE: RONALD REAGAN SAID ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING 5 DIFFERENT TIMES PUBLICALLY DURING HIS ADMINISTRATION]
Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991
"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining super-capitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."
Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets
[QUIX NOTE: IIRC, THERE were half a dozen to a dozen or more heavy duty conservative political forces also on that plane]
"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.
"The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies [marxism/fascism/socialism v. democracy/capitalism] to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger and larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other."
"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation."
David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations
"In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press....They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers.
"An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers."
U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917
"The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind."
George Herbert Walker Bush
"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent."
Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950
THERE'S A LOT MORE QUOTES ON LINK BELOW:
GOD ALONE IS OUR REFUGE.
Nevertheless, . . . a LOT of FREEPERS are still asleep about such stuff.
If you have not read such before,
would you be willing to give a more elaborate response, please?
What were your initial thoughts on reading those?
Who’s comments were most sobering?
What are your feelings about such now?
Why do you think so many FREEPERS are willfully blind about such things?
VERY WELL PUT. I knew it went back a long ways, from my study in my Univ library job . . . I knew it was pervasive and grinding inexorably to the Biblical END TIMES one world government.
I had not expected some destructiveness to be achieved so fast . . . such as OThuga etc.
Certainly God alone is our refuge, wisdom, guidance, provision.
And, yes, MARANATHA LORD JESUS!
Do you have any suggestions for how to wake more FREEPERS up?
At times like this I like to go to the classics like Plan Nine From Outer Space...
Colonel Tom Edwards: Why is it so important that you want to contact the governments of our earth?
Eros: Because of death. Because all you of Earth are idiots.
GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRAYERS.
They have a crucial impact in my life and ministry.
I think you are right.
Those points are part of what keeps me going.
Bless you and your family in God’s Love, peace, provision, power and joy.
I believe that’s the purpose of this thread - to mock some of the very good scenarios posted on that thread - probably too close to the truth.
This thread should not be allowed to continue and the originator of it banned.
Quix, that is an excellent link, thanks for posting it, I will bump it to the top and ping these bright FReepers too
Thanks for your kind replies.
A link with LOTs of sobering very recent news alert items . . .
Thanks for the ping!
I second the motion. :)
You know, After reading this comment of yours, I went back and read this vanity post and it has all the earmarks of a troll. I've seen threads like this get posted and the poster get zotted in a heartbeat.
It says nothing, links to nowhere, the posted of the thread is a noob.....
It's an improbable scenario and could easily be mocking FR. My trollometer went off.
I'm going out on a limb and say....
LOL, LOL !
Don’t worry, it will find you.
Thanks for the ping.
The video is by DOC. I have seen a few of his videos, but never listened to his radio show.
He starts out saying - sticking to the facts....and then plays audio of WW2 newsreel sound bytes in between spots about telling what is going on today. This is very revealing about our current situation. Links under the video are good resources.
FALSE FLAG FICTION OR HISTORY REPEATING YOU DECIDE
Food for thought.
And a hit and run poster, also.
Didn’t want you guys to miss the fun. Looks like another troll.
Read the vanity thread the hit and run noob poster put up insulting FReepers.
Not that I believe a word of it.
Too bad some of the oldies aren’t so obvious....
Link to nowhere, no content, noob, nasty...
You got it!
We could always hit the abuse button (post #1) but, I read some of his/her comments on the *original* thread and it seems him/her honestly believes this was an airplane contrail.
This is a vanity ridicule of those who think otherwise.
I got to thinking about this *missile* issue and have come to the conclusion it was designed to divide and confuse. Sort of a false flag with no harm, no foul.
It’s working here on FR.
As I now understand it, the OP was a snipy spoof on another thread.
“They think globalist Ted Turners wish to come back reincarnated as a deadly-to-humans pathogen was just an idle rich guys musings instead of a commentary on what he and the UNgood ole boys have been working hard toward for 110 years.”
The sad truth is, misanthropes are refreshing. People get tired of politically correct images with sweet-n-low smiles, concerned looks orchestrated with dimple depth measured by the millimeter.
People can assume that a misanthrope is just kidding. Or, there's a side to them that wishes there weren't so many traffic jams or long lines at the stores. No worries, FRiend. People overwhelmingly rejected the anti-humanist ruling class. They might not realize the full depth of evil yet, but mainstream America is sounding more like FReepers every day.
[Also good to remember that many people would rather mock a lunatic like Turner than brand him as the evil man he is. It's just a social approach people choose.]
Maybe it was only a contrail, but a vanity ridicule of FR is not called for.
And I don’t believe a word of it (his claims in this vanity).
It is in the same kind of style as many other vanities posted by other trolls who have got the zot.
I started this thread to mock another thread that...
If you think that's acceptable for this forum, that's wonderful. I wasn't mocking FR at all; I was mocking conspiracy nuts who take something easily explainable and construct wild, complicated stories to turn it into something malevolent.
IMO, the nonsense thrown around here lately about the contrail was laughable, but harmless. But when forum participants started throwing around crap about their "military contacts," my trollometer and BS-meter goes off.
It's the Internet equivalent of the guy at a party who gives us the skinny from his "operator" friends.
The thread that I mocked was titled, "Just Spoke W/ Very Senior Ret. USAF Officer. Says USAF, NORAD, Etc. Have "No Clue" About Missile." C'mon. Putting that in "Breaking News?" The other thread deserved to be mocked. And my thread developed wonderfully; it contains as much reason and fact as that other thread. And slightly more nutters muttering about "THE TRUTH!"
Go get wound up over contrails. Be my guest.
Someone has their undergarments all a-twist this morning...
LOL. Not really. I just can’t stand conspiracy theory types.
Oh my goodness I love little hissy fits out of n00bs! Caps, colors and all!
Oh my goodness I love little hissy fits out of n00bs! Caps, colors and all!
Yeah. It's like they think it's their responsibility to join FR and straighten us all out.
It's not like anyone forced the noob to read the thread. That's what scroll keys are for.
... Always a pleasant way to start a conversation.
“Comfortable Living Specialists” LOL!!
You are part of Soros's Media Control group.
>>Yeah. It’s like they think it’s their responsibility to join FR and straighten us all out. <<
Truth be told!
If our government had a history of being honest with the citizenry you’d probably have a lot fewer conspiracy theorists to dislike.
>>You are part of Soros’s Media Control group. <<
Laz is spot on again!
This thread is looking to be put into the FReeper Classics.
Yours is the saddest, most pathetic yet funniest post I have read today.
Just talked to Soros, told him our cover is blown. Operation Thailand in effect.
Whoopsy, I must be incredibly dense. Re-
doing my post.
Just talked to Soros, told him HIS [upstanding’s] cover is blown. Operation Thailand in effect.
Who cares what you can’t stand.
Did someone anoint you as the moderator of threads and mock away according to your likes and dislikes?
YOU have a MAJOR control issue along with your desperate need of attention.
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