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Boortz is all over the Birth Cert issue this am (vanity)
Boortz show | 21 Jan 2011 | pilotdave

Posted on 01/21/2011 8:08:39 AM PST by PilotDave

Neil has spent the past 2 segments discussing the gov of HI's failure to produce the long form BC. He actually said there may be something to it??? He still doesn't get that there is more to being a natural born citizen than simply being born in America, but it's a start.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; boortz; certifigate; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; nealboortz; obama; vanity
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I’m not really caring for Rush’s take on it. He’s not up to speed on the facts, and he’s warning it could all be a head fake. I don’t believe that for one nano second.


61 posted on 01/21/2011 9:33:59 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Bigun
"It would be administered by the very same folks who currently send out all those social security checks!"

ROFLMAO...that's not exactly what I'd call a ringing endorsement. Of course if you and your good buddy Boortz are willing to vouch for the efficiency and corruption-free nature of the SSA, I guess I should just shut up and accept it (not).

62 posted on 01/21/2011 9:34:22 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: RummyChick

“He was NOT eligible to be a British Citizen.”

Then how come he was until he was 23, according to him?

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html


63 posted on 01/21/2011 9:35:16 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Bigun
But I used an actual argument.

(And it was really an attack on Boortz.)

64 posted on 01/21/2011 9:38:42 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: omegadawn
That's the point. Arthur tried to hide the fact that his father was a naturalized citizen after he [VP Arthur] was born. A natural born citizen under the Constitution's requirement to be President or VP is different from being a citizen.

Obama's reputed father was never a US citizen. At the very least, Obama's eligibility should be challenged and brought to SCOTUS, since the courts have never ruled on exactly what constitutes a "natural born citizen" under the Constitution as it pertains to the Presidency.

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

65 posted on 01/21/2011 9:43:25 AM PST by kabar
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To: Joe 6-pack

Nope! Not at all but no new agency is created by the Fairtax as you seem to believe!

Not ONE!


66 posted on 01/21/2011 9:44:26 AM PST by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Paladin2

No you didn’t! You used an emotional appeal based on NOTHING other than your feelings! Not one FACT was presented!


67 posted on 01/21/2011 9:47:35 AM PST by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Bigun
"Nope! Not at all but no new agency is created by the Fairtax as you seem to believe!"

OK then, I stand corrected...we'd just have to increase the size of existing agencies. I guess that makes a difference in Boortz-math.

68 posted on 01/21/2011 9:49:00 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: roses of sharon

Everything you need to know:

http://www.theobamafile.com/obamacolb.htm


69 posted on 01/21/2011 9:51:14 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Boortz math:

IRS GONE vs a few new printers and a few additional personnel to operate them at the SSA seems like a winner to me!


70 posted on 01/21/2011 9:54:37 AM PST by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Bigun
Does the fair tax hit one's savings (that have already been income taxed) with a huge % again when the are spent?

Sounds like a fact to me.

71 posted on 01/21/2011 9:56:40 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

What YOU don’t get is that the very same thing is happening when you spend your savings today under the income tax!

The fact that you can’t see it does not change the fact that it is happening!


72 posted on 01/21/2011 9:59:58 AM PST by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Bigun
"IRS GONE vs a few new printers and a few additional personnel to operate them at the SSA seems like a winner to me!"

Plus a new postal personnel to process and deliver the volume of checks going out, plus a new criminal investigators to follow up on fraudulent applications, plus a new postal inspectors, etc. Of course all of these will entail new leads, supervisors, administrators, etc.

73 posted on 01/21/2011 10:05:10 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Bigun
"What YOU don’t get is that the very same thing is happening when you spend your savings today under the income tax!"

Totally false, especially when I spend in a no sales tax state.

Remember we are talking about saved money carried over through the transition from a time of an income tax to the time of the(un)fair (for already taxed savings carried over) tax.

74 posted on 01/21/2011 10:09:51 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: roses of sharon

As far as I know, you don’t have to be a natural born citizen to be a US Senator or any other office. The BC would not be needed.


75 posted on 01/21/2011 10:37:32 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (RIP Royal Marshall, you ran the good race.)
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To: Marathoner
If they will disregard the constitution on something so straight forward and basic, then what else will they be willing to do?

We are not far removed from what happened in countries all around the world when government takes total control and then looks for "final" solutions to problems.

76 posted on 01/21/2011 10:40:18 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (RIP Royal Marshall, you ran the good race.)
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To: Paladin2

Paladin:
And, it’s still better than the mess we have right now.

I’m nearing retirement, myself, and the ranting about the double tax on seniors is an issue that can be addressed as part of the implementation of the Fair Tax model. It should not be a deal killer (can we still say that?).


77 posted on 01/21/2011 10:46:45 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Thanks, I assumed that one needed to show their original BC for a passport, since that is what they asked of me.


78 posted on 01/21/2011 10:49:29 AM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Beckwith

Thanks, I always avoided the BC threads because I didn’t get in at the beginning, and was way too far behind to catch up.

Maybe I should study up!


79 posted on 01/21/2011 10:52:04 AM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Paladin2

Please read the articles at the links below and educate yourself!

http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/WhatTheFederalTaxSystemIsCostingYou.pdf

http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/The_FairTax_benefits_seniors_11-7-06.pdf


80 posted on 01/21/2011 10:55:43 AM PST by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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