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So when is it permissable to check out?
Self | 03/01/2011 | PhilStone

Posted on 03/01/2011 9:05:12 PM PST by PhilosopherStone1000

So I'm 50. I have a very smart, very beautiful daughter who is a junior in high school.

Every day, I wake up and say to myself "Crap. I'm still alive."

I feel like I've done my job. I have give birth to and raised an extraordinary human being. There's nothing I can do now to advance her career or life.

How much does God expect me to endure? When can I say "I've had enough?" At what point is it rational to jump off that bridge simply because one is tired of putting up with all the crap?


TOPICS: Religion; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: courage; depression; suicideprevention; troll; zot
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Come to my house and I’ll take you to visit a neighbor where a family member took himself out 2 weeks ago. You can see for yourself what it will be like for your family if you do the same.


181 posted on 03/02/2011 3:30:31 AM PST by Ditter
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

You might be surprised the love you would be to some new friend you find in the next few weeks. Keep loving and don’t worry about the rest.


182 posted on 03/02/2011 3:32:42 AM PST by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
I'm 50. I have no kids. I envy you. You on the surface have a lot more to live for than I do, but I go to work every day and come home and am grateful for what I do have. It could be far, far worse. Always keep that in mind - when you think you have it bad, take a trip to a bad part of town and see the people living on the steam grates. Or go to an AA meeting and see what it's like just fighting every day to stay sober - and a lot of those people have lost just about everything. But they are fighting to stay on this Earth.

I'm sorry I'm not much more help. But if I've learned anything, it's that all the stuff that seems important when you are younger - the stuff that keeps you pumped up for the weekend or for vacations - really isn't. Find happiness in what you do have. Make the most out of that cup of coffee in the morning, learn to take walks and see the little details around you that you never noticed before. Take Warren Zevon's basic advice after he learned he had terminal cancer - enjoy every sandwich. All of us eventually figure out what's on the other side. Don't rush that.

183 posted on 03/02/2011 4:04:10 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
And what, exactly, do I have to “give” her?

Your time, your support, advise, strength...

At her age, did you really never need or want help again for the rest of your life?

184 posted on 03/02/2011 4:57:24 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: mass55th

My best friend lost her dad to a heart attack when she was 17. Her Dad was also my Dad’s best friend and my Dad is her Godfather. While my Dad has stepped in in many ways into the father’s role (he gave her away at her wedding, was the executor of the estate and her children call him Grandpa Steve) sometimes she admits when my Dad fills in the role she misses her Dad even more.


185 posted on 03/02/2011 5:08:04 AM PST by exiledinchicago (Chicago Bulls root for them to beat the Heat in the playoffs!)
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I almost tried suicide when I was 27. My life was worse than the pits. The pits would have been a step up.

I didn’t even change my mind to stop the initial try. Something happened that required my attention and I couldn’t do it when I had planned.

I made a rambling call to my best friend who called my parents who got me help.

When I think of all that’s happened to me since then it scares me to think how much I missed.

It was a combination of therapy and help with family and friends from serious to teasing (for example my brother saying “Wouldn’t you be poed if the Cubs won the world series the year after you died?”

And I still see someone once a week.


186 posted on 03/02/2011 5:16:11 AM PST by exiledinchicago (Chicago Bulls root for them to beat the Heat in the playoffs!)
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To: Salamander
I bet 8 or 10 men just walked on by me, not even offering to help. Chivalry is toast.

Nah. You just need to pick better places to fall over...(8^D)

187 posted on 03/02/2011 5:18:00 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: USARightSide

Thanks for the advice — I will check into DMSO...


188 posted on 03/02/2011 5:30:49 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Being happy is not a matter of destinty. It is a matter of options. /Dali Lama)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
How much does God expect me to endure?

I don't know, but every time you wake up in the morning you get your answer from Him Whom you ask.

189 posted on 03/02/2011 5:33:00 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Yeah, go ahead and check out, it’s not she’s ever going to need your support again.


190 posted on 03/02/2011 5:34:21 AM PST by RetSignman ("It's about saving our Republic, STUPID")
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
All I can tell you is that when the Good Lord gets ready for you, He will call and you will answer. I do not know the condition of your soul, but, never the less, sentence number one applies.I do not know if you are male or female, but again, that is not that important, the important thing to keep in mind is that your daughter needs you, and, despite what both you and/or her thinks will need you more each day that passes. And never lose sight of the fact that as long as the Good Lord allows you to remain on His Earth that He has something He wants you to do. You do not have to know or understand at this point in time what it is. He will make it plain to you when the time comes.

As for you wanting to end it all, you are not the Lone Ranger. And as time goes on and things get worse, there will be many more in the same boat as you.

We, in the United States, live in the best Country that the world has ever known. But , as we continue to kick God out, this will not remain the case. We will descend to the level to the "third world" Nations such as Hataii. We, as a Nation said,via a majority vote, that we wished to begin that trip on November 4, 2008.

191 posted on 03/02/2011 5:37:35 AM PST by sport
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

I’m 44...my Dad passed away in 2009 at age 69. There isn’t much I wouldn’t give for a chance to spend more time with him. My FIL passed away in 2006...my wife feels the same way.

As they say, MAN UP. You have plenty left to give your daughter, just by being alive.


192 posted on 03/02/2011 5:48:56 AM PST by JRios1968 (Laz would hit it!)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Stop being an ass.


193 posted on 03/02/2011 5:53:07 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
Lots of judgment will come your way on this thread. You should know that you are not alone in these feelings. More people everyday are expressing the same thing. Religion is not the answer for many - despite the responses you are getting. Find a new hobby that requires some physical activity. When I feel down I take my dog and go climb a mountain and sit there for sometime and take it all in. Works for me. That and killing coyotes.
194 posted on 03/02/2011 5:54:39 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

195 posted on 03/02/2011 6:20:29 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
The guy never replied but once, early in the night. He ignored every person who took the time to show concern..some even lost sleep praying and worrying.

He is either suffering a huge hangover after passing out or he has accomplished being the biggest stumbling block for his family/daughter that they will ever have to suffer for a lifetime. Jerk.

If he is still alive, I'm gonna kick his jack-waggon ten ways to Sunday.

196 posted on 03/02/2011 6:33:01 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Earthdweller
Well kick her once for me too.

I say "her" because men may father a child, or sire a child, but they don't give birth to a child.

197 posted on 03/02/2011 6:39:19 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Revolting cat!

You are a good man, and deserve better. Call me.


198 posted on 03/02/2011 6:40:51 AM PST by Lazamataz (Scott Walker: Please FIRE.... then APPOINT... then VOTE.)
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To: BykrBayb
"Well kick her once for me too."

Even better..it will be a fair fight between two women. I expect women to be tougher about emotional stuff. My mamma was tougher on me than my Dad. She used to say," I brought you into this world, I can take you out."

I'm feeling ticked about this today ..we were all helpless to do anything to help through the stinking Internet waves.

If you are going to just play around about taking your life..then leave others out of it. Otherwise..get your butt on the telephone. I've run across a bunch of jerks on the net who never really wanted to commit suicide..they just had the worst social skills known to man.

Like I said...if he/she is alive, I'm gonna kick their butt for putting everyone through this.

199 posted on 03/02/2011 6:54:07 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

If you are still alive you have not yet fulfilled your destiny. Perhaps raising your daughter to the age of 16 was not the only thing you were meant to do. Maybe you were meant to touch another person’s life for a moment or two. Maybe you will save a neighbor from a burning home or a stranger from an auto accident. Maybe you will fight in a struggle to save your country from tyrants and destruction. Life is a journey, embrace the ride.


200 posted on 03/02/2011 7:00:41 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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