Posted on 12/11/2011 5:35:03 PM PST by NeinNeinNein
OK, this is not a flame thread. I'm genuinely curious why conservatives think Communism is so evil.
I am a Communist. I am also a God-fearing Christian, a tax-paying and loyal American, and a generally nice guy. Communism was perverted by third world despots and was never implemented fully in its true form.
Communism is about cooperation and good will. And it's important to note that economic success and cooperation are not mutally exclusive. In fact, I would argue greater cooperation among individuals leads to more prosperity and more overall happiness.
Etiam non princeps sed usque ad genua, Princeps Pacis!
First of all, you REALLY need to give us YOUR definition of “Communism”.
Otherwise, you are just asking to be the designated impact zone for a “Time-On-Target”, (TOT).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_On_Target
Why do they Troll Free Republic? Do they think they’re going to influence any of us?
Humans are by definition corrupt, and the 'well-meaning' leftists like you do not seem to understand that basic fact. Everyone has a price. If men were saints, we would need no government. See Federalist #51 for why Communism is a horrible idea that only leads to misery.
The only way to preserve individual liberty is via contention and through separation of powers and authority. A strong private sector is a balance to overpowering government. A government with just laws overseen by a people jealous of their freedom assures those powers held by the government and the freedom of individuals to peruse their own destinies are not used to abuse other citizens.
The problem today is that we have grown to take our freedom for granted. We are no longer jealous of our freedom.
This answer gets the "Nail on the Head" Award. Communism is based on false assumptions. People will not work or take risks if they are not rewarded according to their efforts, success and risks. What would the NFL be like if all the players made the same salary?
As you point out, it is not only the useful idiots that are eliminated. Communist tyrants will inevitably end up killing each other. Just ask Leon Trotsky and Hafizullah Amin.
Socialism is the morally corrupt belief that we each can (and must) live off of the income and wealth of others. Christians should know how this violates at least trhee of the Ten Commandments: lies, coveting and theft. But recall that socialists themselves love to scold the rest of us about “sustainability”, yet as Margaret Thatcher once quipped, socialism works until they run out of other people’s money.
So, the dirty secret about socialism is that in the long run, it is not economically “sustainable”, and is in fact built to fail. Sadly, socialists not only think they have the right to seize the income and asset of others, many of whom they have never met, they don’t stop there. To read Keyenes or Marx is to read the plans and proposals of someone who assumes the right to own, control and in the end, to even wholely consume the personhood of others. It is a sociopathology so vast in scope, that it is only restrained by how many humans it can place under its insatiable grasp.
Socialism is evil, plain and simple. Those who advocate socialsm are advocates and supporters of evil. They are our our enemies and are a threat to our lives and our prosperity.
You can’t have even a little bit of socialism beyond basic charity without some coercion. Beyond the level of charity coercicion must increase with the level of socialism or the whole thing collapses.
Oh, look! Captain Kirk is back!
LOL!
Nah, it is to poke a finger in our eye. They get off on it.
Zot Ping!
Please allow me to add that socialism must destroy private price information and substitute ideologically derived prices. We see this every day when government subsidizes something so the price will “encourage” the market or “discourage” some unapproved item. This is the very reason we have a 51 cents per gallon subsidy for ethanol in just about every gallon of gasoline we buy.
Socialism also must destroy property rights. Socialists love to scold the rest of us about “sustainability”, yet an economy without freely set prices and where property rights are destroyed simply IS NOT sustainable.
Without property rights, there cannot be a free market in the exchange of goods and services.
Without a free market, without a willing buyer and a willing seller, it is IMPOSSIBLE to know the real price of anything.
Without the price, it is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to make the necessary economic calculation, that is to know when the inputs to an activity (labor or raw materials) costs more or less than the output of an activity (the value of the thing produced or service performed).
Without the economic calculation, it is IMPOSSIBLE for an economic activity to make a profit and thus be sustainable. Conversely, it is IMPOSSIBLE for an unprofitable economic activity to be sustainable.
Without profit, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have resources from which to feed, clothe and house those who are involved in the activity.
Without profit, it is IMPOSSIBLE, to have excess resources to set aside in the form of savings.
Without savings, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have capital to invest in new economic activities.
Without the ability to have property rights to those savings, it is IMPOSSIBLE to evaluate all of the other possible economic activities to find the ones that carries the least risk when compared to their anticipated return, and to properly allocate savings to the most promising investments.
Without new economic activity and without the ability for others to invest as it suits the saver, the economy cannot have the opportunity nor the resources with which to adapt to changing circumstances, let alone to provide jobs and resources for the next generation.
Without honest money, government is free to destroy the very means of accounting for, saving and exchanging wealth. Without the assurance that money will retain its value, people will not save but instead will either consume excess wealth or will store it in forms like fixed assets that preclude investment in new economic activity.
In other words, without property rights, a free market, price information that allows economic calculation of profit, the ability to save with the assurance those savings are free to be invested when and where the saver sees fit, and without honest money, a sustainable economy is IMPOSSIBLE.
Without a sustainable economy, it is IMPOSSIBLE for humans enjoy any level of prosperity. This is exactly the reason that North Koreans are reduced to foraging for bark and grass to fill their empty stomachs. Their government forbids property rights, forbids a free market, destroys price information, confiscates savings, forbids investment and has no economic growth.
Liberty, property, profit, investment, capital and honest money are the only means of creating a sustainable economy. All other ways have been tried and have failed utterly. Yet, somehow, property rights, profit, capital and honest money are still considered to be evil, particularly in the thinking of people still yearning for the perfect socialist Utopia. Socialism is in reality the economy of death.
Yep, there’s a reason Che Guevera never returned to Cuba even when he was being hunted like a dog in South America. He knew Castro would kill him.
LMAO!!
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