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The Case Against Pangea
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Posted on 04/22/2012 3:53:17 PM PDT by Windflier

First… it’s important to understand that this is the most profound disagreement in all of science in a century and a half… and, even so, it is the tip of the iceberg, the ramifications of this disagreement will change everything we know in science, top to bottom.

To begin with basic stuff.

All science knows…
The earth has two crusts. One…the mostly basalt lower crust or the oceanic crust which is 2 – 4 miles deeper down than the higher upper continental crust. This lower crust, essentially covers the Earth. It … this crust is being made daily at rift cracks that snake around the earth’s mid- oceans. But how could all these rifts continually spread apart…without the Earth growing? Ah….that is the question….isn’t it?

Secondly,
Sitting on or “in” and “as part of” the oceanic crust is the second higher upper crust or the Continental Crust rising for the most part out of the water. It is made mostly of granitic rock, which is 2.5 times the weight of water.

Some edge area of the Continental Crust or Plate dips into and under the sea level of the ocean. This area is what we call the Continental Shelf. So as you go out into the ocean and the water gets gradually deeper … that is the Continental Shelf. At a given distance out into the ocean the ocean floor suddenly drops off and goes down like a plummet… 2 ½ to 4 miles to the deep ocean floor, where we find the second lower crust, the Oceanic Crust made mostly of basalts which are 3.0 – 3.3 times the weight of water. So to make it visually clear, if you took the water away what you would see as you go out into the ocean a distance is, the Continental Shelf would suddenly drop away and down like a ridge in Arizona., except it would go straight down for two to three miles, as if it was suddenly broken off. The other side of that broken off ridge is across the ocean thousands of miles in Europe, or Africa and west to Australia and Asia.

How did the two sides of this higher crust spread apart?

Rifts or eruptive cracks in the ocean floor provide new material in the form of molten magmic rock that rises up at a rift area and the oceanic plate spreads apart and the two sides move away from each other smoothly and regularly, and so the continents welded within the oceanic plates also move apart as the ocean bottom spreads…. Now if this happens … and it does, all over the world, logically speaking, this Earth must grow.

We … I … argue that, that this outer crust originally covered the whole of a smaller Earth and the Earth sphere grew. The outer crust, therefore, had to crack and spread to accommodate a growing Earth…which…it apparently did.

We further argue that if you were to shrink the sphere of Earth … by letting the oceanic plate re-enter the rifts they erupted from, over time … the continental crust would easily and completely fit back together, and this solution satisfies all questions of tectonics, science, geology, paleontology, theoretical and practical physics, cosmology, and subatomic physics. Pretty simple actually.


TOPICS: Education; Science
KEYWORDS: continentaldrift; pangea; platetectonics; tectonics
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To: Windflier
No doubt you will be excoriated soundly for thinking out of the box...

But I found this guy long ago and he raises some pretty good questions (whether he is right or not). It seems self evident that the granitic continental pieces fit together perfectly as he suggests... And if that is not enough, or is discounted, the next question to ask is, "Then where is the rest of the granitic layer?"

No doubt his graphic representation works perfectly... And on it's face is more acceptable than the Pangea demonstrations I have seen. I don't know that he is correct however - and I largely disagree with his reason the earth is growing.

Thanks - food for thought.

41 posted on 04/22/2012 4:48:08 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Windflier
I just want to know, though...has anyone taken the time to watch the videos at the site? You can go through all fifteen of them in about half an hour, and trust me, they are compelling.

Sorry, but your guy is creating a solution for a problem that does not exist. Plate techtonics does a fine job explaining how oceanic crust is both created and destroyed without expanding the overall average size of the Earth.

I don't waste time on such charlatans. And I recognize the breathless writing style typical of Internet snake oil salesmen.

42 posted on 04/22/2012 4:50:02 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Windflier; Impy; Clintonfatigued; Perdogg

“I speak jive.”

Airplane! Great stuff!


43 posted on 04/22/2012 4:53:53 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Really?)
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To: dirtboy

I can prove that internal combustion engines actually run on nuclear fusion if you would just open your mind and ignore all that sciencey stuff.


44 posted on 04/22/2012 4:57:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Windflier
"I just want to know, though...has anyone taken the time to watch the videos at the site? You can go through all fifteen of them in about half an hour, and trust me, they are compelling."

They are a collection of supposed supporting evidence, are they not? They show all the reasons why this guy is right.

The problem is you can present compelling evidence for almost anything, if you just pick out things that support you. It's called Confirmation Bias, and it's not science. What you have to look at is where it might be proven wrong, not where it's claims are supposedly upheld. A good theory is one that's not falsified.

45 posted on 04/22/2012 4:58:24 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Windflier

How does a planet grow that much? Where is the mass coming from? Where is all the extra water coming from to fill in the gaps between the land masses?

Also, there are problems with his videos. In some places he is showing stretching without stretchmarks. And...when you put a skin of a small sphere on a larger sphere, there are going to be places where the skin puckers or bunches up. He doesnt show any bunching occurring in his animations. That is not very scientific.


46 posted on 04/22/2012 4:59:23 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Windflier
If the 'science' is 'indisputable', it's not science at all, but religion or scam or both.
47 posted on 04/22/2012 5:07:37 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: cripplecreek
The world is getting dumber. Its why men like Giorgio Tsoukalos can get rich by ignoring the obvious and feeding people stupid crap about ancient aliens building everything.


48 posted on 04/22/2012 5:07:57 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

I saw an ad for the next episode of Ancient aliens.

Georgio says “The ancient Mayan calendar looks remarkably like the large HADRON collider. (They’re both round) Coincidence? I think not.” LOL


49 posted on 04/22/2012 5:13:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Windflier
Great article.

The whole time I was reading it I was asking myself why nobody ever thought of this before?

This is literally an earth-shattering insight.

50 posted on 04/22/2012 5:19:58 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? You're really that dense? Really?)
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To: Windflier

This adds credence to the idea that petroleum is still being generated inside the earth.


51 posted on 04/22/2012 5:25:18 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? You're really that dense? Really?)
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To: Windflier

40 years from now none of this will matter to me. That’s if I live to be a hundred. If I live to be 80 it won’t matter in 20 years.


52 posted on 04/22/2012 5:26:30 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, FAMILY GUY)
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To: Windflier
not trying to debunk anything, i simply sound this formation about four miles from my house and thought it was cool...

i watched all 13 parts and my only question is, where did all the water come from???

inside or is he saying at one time completely covering the earth till it split up enough for the water to recede?

53 posted on 04/22/2012 5:29:22 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Terry Mross

Better check the air in your tires just to be on the safe side.


54 posted on 04/22/2012 5:30:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: All
For anyone not at all familiar with this stuff:

A) mid-ocean spreading
B) subduction
C) strike/slip fault


55 posted on 04/22/2012 5:37:17 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Windflier

I’m gonn’a wait for the youtube of a prehensile tail falling off or gradually shortening


56 posted on 04/22/2012 6:21:51 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Windflier

I’m gonn’a wait for the youtube of a prehensile tail falling off or gradually shortening


57 posted on 04/22/2012 6:25:49 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: mamelukesabre
How does a planet grow that much? Where is the mass coming from? Where is all the extra water coming from to fill in the gaps between the land masses?

You ask a lot of great questions. He answers them all in the videos, or in other write-ups on his site.

In some places he is showing stretching without stretchmarks.

I forget which video it is, but he goes to great lengths to show the stretch marks on planetary surfaces. That's exactly what he calls them, too.

58 posted on 04/22/2012 6:59:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mlo
The problem is you can present compelling evidence for almost anything, if you just pick out things that support you. It's called Confirmation Bias, and it's not science.

What I've seen at that site is a lot more compelling and convincing than the theory that the continents are drifting around the planet, crashing and bumping into one another. No one has yet explained how that is even possible.

Take a look at the video where he shows the expansion of North America. When he runs that expansion in reverse, you can see all the fragments of Northern Canada fit back together like the pieces of a jig-saw puzzle. That's not just theoretical. They fit together precisely. I don't call that bias.

59 posted on 04/22/2012 7:04:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: roamer_1
Thanks - food for thought.

Glad you showed up and partook of the banquet of ideas presented.

60 posted on 04/22/2012 7:07:55 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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