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Cursive slowly scribbled out of N.J. curriculums as computer skills gain value in schools
Star Ledger ^ | June 17, 2012 | By Jeanette Rundquist/The Star-Ledger

Posted on 06/17/2012 5:25:54 AM PDT by SMGFan

The bulletin board at the front of Melissa Balzano’s classroom in West Orange is decorated with hand-written lists her students wrote in September, expressing their "Hopes and Dreams for Third Grade." For at least half the children in Balzano’s class at Mount Pleasant Elementary School, learning cursive topped the list. "It’s fancy writing," said Naomi Toms, 9. Cursive was once a mainstay of elementary schools, where children practiced the "tripod" pencil grip and the looping strokes of the letters. But these days little classroom time is spent teaching cursive writing, crowded out of the curriculum by the demands of an increasingly complex world.

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KEYWORDS: cursive; education; learning; teaching
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Cursive should not take forever to learn. What garbage are they being taught instead? And mom & or dad could never help. /s
1 posted on 06/17/2012 5:25:59 AM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

OMG! LOL! Hey I say don’t teach them cursive, it will give us ‘old folks’ our own code that will be just as confusing to youths as texting is to us! ;-)


2 posted on 06/17/2012 5:31:12 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: SMGFan

In this day and age typing is a more important skill.


3 posted on 06/17/2012 5:32:12 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: SMGFan

The end of cursive is one of the signs of the end of culture.


4 posted on 06/17/2012 5:34:06 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: rwilson99

More important for future employment. Not more important for properly educating children. Kids can learn keyboarding at home. They will not learn cursive at home most likely.


5 posted on 06/17/2012 5:36:45 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: SMGFan

Without cursive would you be able to make your signature?


6 posted on 06/17/2012 5:37:11 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (The best way to punish a - country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: mosesdapoet; Kartographer
Have you seen some of the younger generations signatures lately? They are not that far removed from the X's of older days.

I have three Gen Ys in my office, not one of them can sign a legible signature. Heck, they can't even print legibly.

I like the idea of cursive being a secret code for us "old folks". :-)

7 posted on 06/17/2012 5:42:21 AM PDT by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: SMGFan

Marshall McLuhan has been heard laughing uproariously.


8 posted on 06/17/2012 5:43:50 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: Kartographer

Don’t get so nostalgic about cursive. My mother’s cursive writing was so undifferentiated — just a sequence of bumps — that it could not be read, just decoded. Oldest child (me) was the only one who could read it. She has abandoned it and only prints now.

Cursive has joined many other practical arts (sewing, knitting, woodwork) which grandparents will have to teach the next generation.


9 posted on 06/17/2012 5:50:41 AM PDT by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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To: vladimir998

They aren’t necessarily learning keyboarding at home. And, in this day of computers, everything on systems, it drives me nuts to see someone hunt and peck all day long.


10 posted on 06/17/2012 5:50:54 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: mosesdapoet

I see so many signatures which are nearly scribbles. You Can not make out actual letters. :)


11 posted on 06/17/2012 5:53:22 AM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

We were taught to write cursive in Catholic school by the time we were in the Second grade. In some schools, cursive was so beautifully stylized, that one could determine the school you attended and the order of nuns who taught you by examining the style of your handwriting. Alas, with the advent of the digital age, I find that I have rarely hand written anything for many years. As a result, I can now barely write my own signature.


12 posted on 06/17/2012 5:53:51 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: SMGFan; All

TRUE STORY: I’m a retired teacher who now supplements my income as a Substitute Teacher. I had a class of H.S. Juniors recently. I noticed that, now days, all kids print; no cursive. Long story short: Only 2 students in a class of 20 could come to the board and write their name in cursive. THEY DO NOT TEACH CURSIVE IN SCHOOLS ANYMORE.


13 posted on 06/17/2012 5:54:59 AM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Many kids in America have computers at home these days - that’s been true for a decade already.

It doesn’t matter if it bothers you that some hunt and peck all day long.


14 posted on 06/17/2012 5:58:24 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: PowderMonkey

Same here and I remember having a grade on my report card for ‘penmanship’.


15 posted on 06/17/2012 6:01:43 AM PDT by JPG (Don't just talk about it, make it happen.)
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To: SMGFan
Last year, my fourth graders couldn't wait to learn cursive. FOURTH GRADE! It should be taught by the second semester of 3rd grade. I had fifth graders this year who complained that they couldn't read my cursive writing on the board, and not because my handwriting is poor. They couldn't read cursive . I told them it was still a basic communication skill and they'd LEARN to read and write it. And they did. My aide, straight out of college, still printed everything for them. He was such a "push-over".

That said, keyboarding should be taught in the early grades. Too many kids don't know the keyboard because they haven't been taught it. If they're going to replace cursive with computers, they'd better be proficient at keyboarding.

16 posted on 06/17/2012 6:03:55 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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Perhaps this is tinfoil hat stuff, but I feel that, by eliminating cursive, the “Powers That Be” are eliminating a major form of expressing freedom of thought, thus creating an entire generation of drones who are incapable of rebellion.

Just sayin’.


17 posted on 06/17/2012 6:14:57 AM PDT by left that other site
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To: FrdmLvr
Let's be realistic ~ if you teach a kid to type in the first grade you'll need to retrain him by the third, then the fifth, and maybe by high school.

Cursive is the same way, but printing is different, and learning to read cursive is also different.

My kids today type 100 to 150 wpm all the time ~ any keyboard ~ any system. We used Mavis Beacon, a couple of other packages that teach you to track and type random numbers and letters, and my own system.

I made it to 238 WPM in high school which qualified me for international speed typing competition ~ but I graduated that year and went to work in an auto factory to earn money for college.

I never made better than a D or -+ in cursive in my entire school career. Just wasn't my thing ~ total waste of time for me AND they never taught me how to read other people's handwriting. That came years later reviewing cases in dispute in Postal Headquarters.

So, my thoughts on cursive ~ quit teaching it but teach the kids how to read it. Also, teach printing by hand ~with a leroy set. Teach typing starting in maybe 5th grade. Any earlier typing should be the prerogative of the parents ~ it's their kid ~ they got the time to waste. 5th grade is an island of stability of the ever growing bones, sinews and muscles of the chillun' so that's a good time to pin down the basics of keyboard hygiene ~ fingers on the key ~ something under the bottom ~ type like the wind.

Cut out the posture thing ~ that's all wrong. You cannot type fast if you are sitting up.

18 posted on 06/17/2012 6:17:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rwilson99

I learned to touch-type in 1961’ in high school - two full years of taking typing (with covered keys) and It has proven to be an invaluable skill over the decades, and I still type over 50 WPM. However, I would not trade my ability to write cursive for all of the keyboards in the world. I’ve seen many of today’s youngsters type-including my own grandchildren - and they are “hunt & peckers”.
I like to think that children are not too different now than they were back then, and posses the basic intelligence to do BOTH. At least I know I can commubicate in a power outage or other emergency.
Once we become totally dependent on the keyboard, those who control technology have us in a precarious position...pull the plug and we’re stymied for communication.
The demise of cursive illustrates the depth to which our culture has shrunk to accommodate those who would rather party than put forth an ounce of effort.


19 posted on 06/17/2012 6:25:44 AM PDT by FrankR
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why teach anything anymore?

All you have to do is teach a child how to operate a calculator and a keyboard, show him how to use google and he can get all the info he needs


20 posted on 06/17/2012 6:28:35 AM PDT by bobo1
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