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Posted on 08/13/2012 7:03:40 AM PDT by bjorn14
I am looking for recommendations for three types of rifles and have a budget of about a $1,000.
1. Semi-auto .22 preferably tube feed
2. Semi-auto big game rifle (deer/elk/moose) with scope
3. Semi-auto or pump 12 gauge rifled for slug and shot.
Thanks in advance.
For the 22, a Marlin 60 with a good scope...can’t beat it.
What is newsworthy about this?
You need to be more realistic about your budget and remember that you get what you pay for.
“.22 tube feed”? Why?
You should get a 10/22, the best that ever was.
Well, in light of recent over-hyped killings using those dreaded assault rifle/pistol weapons, one could call it “activism.”
You need to increase your budget. Alot.
Marlin 60 or Win 190. Booth are great tube fed .22LR guns. $200.
Used Remington 7400 in 30.06. Outstanding big game gun. Plenty accurate enough for man-deer sized animal out to 400y. $400 used.
Mossberg 500 or a Remington 870. Both are great shotguns, both come as hunters or protection gun, just decide wear you want the safety and pick that one. (Mossberg is on top of the grip, great for lefties) $250-$300 used
FReepers are gonna need to know if that budget is combined, or for each.
I wouldn’t know personally ‘cuz I live in The People’s Democratic Republic of Bloomberg.
You can get a Marlin 60 for about $150. A Mossberg Persuader will run you somewhere near or less than the $350 mark at most. That leaves $500 for a good rifle. I’ve seen Remington 700/.308 tacticals selling for $594. $1000 isn’t too far off the mark.
Many would consider a .30-06 on the low end for elk/moose sized game (although they have been and continue to be taken with smaller calibers). If you want something capable of handling something larger than .30-06, I have two recommendations:
Not to be confused with the M1918 military rifle, the Browning BAR comes in a number of configurations: http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/finder.asp?f1=002B&bg=x
It can be had in chamberings for such rounds as .300 Win Mag, .300 WSM, .325 WSM and .338 Win Mag.
The Benelli R1 is also a solid autoloader that can be had in .30-06, .300 Win Mag and .338 Win Mag.
Forget the tube feed. Get a Ruger 10-22. It’s one of America’s great rifles. Period.
It’ll blow your budget to hell, but if you want a semi-auto game rifle, the Browning BAR.
Shotgun: Mossberg 500.
I'd consider the Remington® 887 alongside the Remington 870. Otherwise, I would add nothing to your picks.
Many years ago “Soldier of Fortune” had some tactical shooting contest with shotguns. Nearly every contestant had the 870. That was all that I needed to know.
To keep it within budget, we’ll have to be creative here. I would start your search at gun shows where better deals can be found.
If I were choosing based on this list, (prices are guesstimates of what you can find at a gun show based on what they are going for on gun broker, much higher new/retail pricing)I would go with:
Ruger 10/22 (around $200)
Savage Model 110 (around $500)
Winchester Model 50 (around $250)
Again, these are guesses based on used, gun show price.
For the .22, I’d go with a Ruger ‘10/22’. Why go tube feed in a semi-auto when you can get one with a detachable magazine?(LOTS of parts/accessory options with the 10/22 as well)
As for the shotgun, you can’t go wrong with a Remington 870 or Mossberg 500.
The Marlin mentioned before is a good choice, you can probably pick up one used for under $100.
The Mossberg 500 12 gauge pump gun is a great starting shotgun. Any length barrel with no tighter than a modified choke will work for slug and shot. If you want a rifled slug barrel, they come extra for under $200.
I like the Remington 700 bolt action in 30-06 for deer and/or elk. For moose, I'd want a larger caliber.
Like I said, go to gun shows, or ask around if any friends or relatives have anything that would fill the bill that they'd sell. Otherwise, you'll need to increase your budget.
Good luck. Unless you need to buy these all right now, take your time and buy them when you find them. That way, you may have a few extra bucks to work with too.
What in the heck are you talking about? A propos? Do you mean apropos? The man asked a question for three specific needs that he specifically qualified.
I happen to have actually purchased a Marlin 60 ($160 with scope) and Mossberg Persuader 8-9 shot pump (right at $220) and I’ve gotten any number of bolt action and semi-autos up to 30’06 that could fit the last need - all bringing in the total cost under his goal.
But, since you seem to have all the answers based on some cryptic pawn and sympathetic gunsmith expertise, go right ahead and tell him how to do it. I was just answering his question based on his parameters, not yours.
I have a tube fed Remington 550. I like it because it will shoot shorts, longs or long rifles without any fuss. That is a cool .22 rifle.
For the shotgun the Remington 870 is an excellent choice. More accessories and interchangeable barrels than you will ever need. Plus the receiver is still made of steel so it can take quite a bit of abuse. Reliability excellent. Price is typically just under $250 on sale.
I don't have a specific recommendation for the center fire rifle since I've always used bolt guns for big game hunting. (Older Winchester model 70 & Remington 700)
Exactly. Some people like Ruger 10/22s because they can get all kind of crap to put on it, even big, big magazines. No contest, it’s a great gun. I like my Marlin because it is simple and cheap - one of Marlin’s best selling models.
A good tube-fed 22 is compact as it’s gonna be, let’s you get close to the ground and cover as you can without some bulky magazine poking down, and snags on clothing, brush,etc. less easily. And, as you say shorts, longs, etc are an option. The only round they won’t shoot are 22 WMRs
I second what Jim and Gaffer said, although in my neck of the woods you can get the Marlin for under $100 used.
1. Ruger 10/22 ~$250
2. Ruger American 30-06 (Bolt action not auto) ~$350
3. Maverick (made by Mossberg, cheaper than the 500) ~$200
You’ll even have a little money left over for some ammo!
If you are willing to go with a pump deer/elk rifle, then the Remington 760-7600 has a good reputation and are readily available.
The added advantage of the 760 is that the controls are nearly the same as the Remington 870 pump shotgun.
If you wanted to make your entire arsenel have the same controls, you could get the Remington 572 pump .22, which is a wonderful rifle. You can find them used for $200. I am not sure that they are still available new, but the last price I saw for a new one was $532.
The Browning BAR has a good reputation, but cost your entire budget for one.
I agree on the Marlin, fun little rifle. I was assuming he was purchasing new. Therefore using my favorites: Mossberg 835 - $550 add $175 for the slug barrel and $20 for a sling.
Weatherby Vanguard 300WM - $600, add at least $200 for a decent quality scope and mounts. $50 for the sling. 150 for the Marlin brings the total to $1795 and there has been no ammo purchased.
If the purchaser is content to buy pre-owned then that is a different story. If they take their time and look maybe $1000 can do it.
Dunno what SOF criteria were, but I use an Ithaca 37, ‘cause its a bottom feeder, and thus ambidextrous, and an all metal gun, no plastic here..
I agree on the price for a used Marlin....my BIL asked me once to replace the tube assy plug (his son lost it in the woods) on his Marlin 60. 25 years old at least - never cleaned but still shot. I got a new tube from Numrich and cleaned it and refinished the stock...when finished it looked almost new...liked it so much I bought a new one with a scope for about $160....
For .22, either the Marlin 60 (~$160.) or Ruger 10/22 (~$200.)is a good choice. Marlin also has the 795 (~145.), which is equivalent to the 60 but had a detachable magazine instead of the tube. You might find a used Model 60 for $100.
A used Browing BAR is probably $600-$800. (and up). Savage has a huge number of bolt-action models that are reasonably priced and generally accurate. A few years ago I sold a new-in-box Browning A-bolt Hunter 30-06 for $650. with Leupold rings and a cheapie scope. Whatever you get, remember that a halfway decent scope will cost you. A Leupold VX-3, VX-2 or Redfield is pretty good for the money.
My son just got a Mossberg 500 home-defense shotgun for about $300. This model has a slightly shorter stock and 18.5” barrel. It will accept other Mossberg barrels
I’m going to go against the grain and suggest you stay away from the 10/22. It’s certainly the most popular and it has a bajillion aftermarket parts. After spending another 500-600 dollars above the cost of the 10/22 you almost have a rifle that can compete in terms of accuracy to a Marlin, Savage or CZ.
I’ve got two of ‘em- after I shot one belonging to a friend I decided it was pretty much everything I’d want in a .22 rifle.
May I ask why you are looking at all semi-autos?
You need at least one good single shot if this your SHTF plan.
Agree with you about the Mossberg 550. I have one next to my bed. My wife shoots lefthanded, I am right handed. Having the safety on top of the weapon makes using it much easier. Also, the safety has a red dot indicator next to the switch, very easy to see when you raise the shotgun to fire.
I also have a Walthers PK380. It also has an ambidexterous (sp) safety.
Agree with you about the Mossberg 500. I have one next to my bed. My wife shoots lefthanded, I am right handed. Having the safety on top of the weapon makes using it much easier. Also, the safety has a red dot indicator next to the switch, very easy to see when you raise the shotgun to fire.
I also have a Walthers PK380. It also has an ambidexterous (sp) safety.
1. Ruger 10-22. yes, not tube fed.
2. I love my FNHR .308, but it blows your $1000 budget by itself
3. Same with a Bennelli, love it but blows your budget.
Note, the only thing I hunt is paper or people that kill my family.
Remington 870 Police Magnum. Comes off a special, Police assembly line. Extra QC. Not that Remington really needs it, but it does serve a purpose. Carried by PDs for decades now. Both weapons are proven performers.
Ruger 10/22. Excellent little weapon. Been around for a long time now.
Wally World use to have a deer hunter special every fall. Savage bolt action. Can't recall specific model. Quality weapon. Choice of calibers. Came with scope, sling,etc. for $300. Not pretty furniture, but who cares if weapon does what it is supposed to do? And it does.
Alternative would be to look for Pre-1964 Model 70 Winchester. $$. But you do not want junk.
If I've learned anything in my life (about firearms) it is to buy QUALITY to begin with! No junk. Junk will always be junk. Finely built firearms will only increase in value or hold their price. I own all of the above weapons (except the Savage) and have no complaints about them.
1: .22 tube feed——REMINGTON NYLON 66. Make sure it is a Remington!
3: Mossberg 500 slug gun.
The Mossberg 702 Plinkster is based upon the MArlin 60 action but is magazine fed ... under $150 new
The Maverick 88 is a good shotgun, but I would go the extra and buy a Remington 870 for the feed issues ... under $400
And for a dependable rifle which will kill ANYTHING, a Mosin Nagant in carbine version but the 91/30 is also dependable ... $ under 200 for a good one
Now, if you want to upgrade, buy the black plastic stock 1022 and two extra Ruger 25 round mags, get the Remington 870 and a magazine extension, and select a clean, tight Mosin Nagant and buy ten stripper clips to go with it.
One last thought: if these weapons are to be used by different sized people, buy a twenty gage shotgun, a Henry repeating .22 which shoots everything except .22 magnums and is under 36 inches long, and build for yourself an AR 15 in 7.62 x 39 with three extra thirty round mags (you can build one right now for under $600 and it shoots one of the best all around cartridges ever developed, which are also available in hollow points). You will still come in under $1000 and be ready for TSHTF to arrive in your neighborhood.
Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 795 and get to an Appleseed. See my tagline.
I have a Remington 552 which I don’t think they make anymore. I guess I have had it for maybe 30 years. During that time it has never even thought about jamming and like your 550, it shoots shorts, longs, and long rifle.
It is also way above average in accuracy.
One of those rifles I wish I had back was a Remington Nylon 66, Apache Black with a chrome barrel and receiver. I typically don’t care for flashy rifles but this one just seemed right with the chrome against the black nylon stock.
Probably the consistently most accurate common .22 auto is the Marlin model 60. I have no idea why but every one I have owned or shot has been uncommonly accurate.
The Ruger 10-22 is probably the next .22 I buy. They are only fairly accurate (yes I know many have been made into high quality target rifles but I am talking out of the box accuracy) but they are good enough and all those high capacity mags is a real plus. Now Ruger sells their own brand of 25 round mags for it.
Speaking of accuracy, I have a Marlin bolt action .22 mag which will out shoot most centerfires. It is not particularly well finished and it looks like the mag does not align properly since it just seems to leave the top round sticking out in space but the bolt picks it up every single time. Did I mention it shoots like a house on fire? It does.
***One of those rifles I wish I had back was a Remington Nylon 66,****
I love my Remington Nylon 66! It has NEVER jammed as an old mossberg .22 did. I once had a Colt Stagecoach .22 and it never jammed, but it also was cut for a child and I could not line up the sights.
My other .22 is a Winchester 74 .22. While not so accurate, it also refuses to fully eject the LAST case when it is fired.
I think it is Marlin micro groove barrels. I have a model 39A that is very accurate and have shot a few other Marline .22s, they were all accurate. I like the model 66 also. I have been looking for one to buy, they are cool guns.
Oh, aren’t we a piece of smug Frenchy work. If you bothered to look in the dictionary, the accepted usage of the word is largely with no space, go look it up.
It is true, however, in your Frenchy-fluent dialect that the word’s origins come from the Frenchy A propos.....big frigging deal - I guess you think we all speak proper Frenchy here, huh?
I guess everyone like you who is applying to VA Tech (some of us here, graduated from more prestigious schools - get back to me when you’ve graduated - if you can) and speaks fluent Frenchy has a leg up on guns and gun knowledge because of the valiant Frenchy battle records?
You have no idea about what anyone here knows about guns and how long they’ve been using them. I’m not ‘little’ and I’m not as young as you apparently have proved you are.
The rest of your comments are worthless to respond to because you are just basically a mean person who doesn’t like to be contradicted. I gave you valid reasons why I responded to the questions asked and their conditions. You chose to go pre-college know-it-all on me because I reminded you of that and called some of your comments about gunsmiths, etc. cryptic.....just a nasty person.
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