Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

VANITY You Are Transported To The Year 742 AD Europe And Allowed To Bring 3 Items From The Future
Internet | 10-14-12 | Internet

Posted on 10/14/2012 8:02:34 AM PDT by trailhkr1

What would they be? A gun? Then you are only allowed to bring 2 bullets..see how that works?? Some basic ground rules..has to be a realistic items you can get you hands on today..no tanks etc. You are going with just the clothes on your back + the 3 items to survive an mingle with the folks of the day. Never coming back.

Saw this question on another site and wanted to see what you guys would come up with..I will post that link tomorrow after everyone has a chance to come up with their ideas..some people came up with good ideas (detailed history text of the time in Europe, antibiotics) and other people's ideas..not so much.


TOPICS: History; Humor
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; vanity
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-150151-200201-215 next last
To: trailhkr1

Ok - still, narrow it down a bit - France? Italy? Is Great Britain Ireland/Scotland/Wales considered “Europe” in this scenario?


101 posted on 10/14/2012 9:04:14 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 91 | View Replies]

To: MIchaelTArchangel

Yes, MichaelTArchangel!! Weapons to stop the damage that Mo and his Minions from Hell will cause in the future.


102 posted on 10/14/2012 9:04:14 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1
1. My loaded rifle.
2. Antibiotics
3. Eyewear (so I can see what I'm shooting at)
103 posted on 10/14/2012 9:05:27 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

1. A Cold Steel Grosse Messer, with which I could fit in and get most everything else I might need.

2. A good dagger: a bunch of them I could live with, but lately I’m partial to the Gerber Mark II.

3. A 2 oz gold bar to cash in for local currency.


104 posted on 10/14/2012 9:05:40 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

There are more than 3 pages in the bible. There are more than 3 part to the 1911. etc. I am assuming the gun is fully loaded since you are not counting parts of items.


105 posted on 10/14/2012 9:05:40 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: TalBlack

For readers, TalBlack means there was a forger working at the same time as the Master Ulfbert but making very inferior swords. But they probably looked good enough to fool people. But if one of these rip offs broke in the middle of the battle, which the inferior ones were prone to doing, you’d be in pretty deep do do.

The master signed his swords +Ulfberh+t and the forger (or forgers) signed them +Ulfberht+.


106 posted on 10/14/2012 9:05:52 AM PDT by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: bboop

There was the Viking invasions on one side and the Muslim invasions on the other. It was a pretty crappy time. No wonder the period of history was called the Dark Ages.


107 posted on 10/14/2012 9:07:36 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 102 | View Replies]

To: RandallFlagg
There used to be coconuts, but they migrated
under the dorsal guiding feathers of unladen swallows.
African or European? (shameless Monty Python reference)...
obviously a European..not a migrating African.

108 posted on 10/14/2012 9:09:21 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

Glock 19 , case of ammo, and good tent


109 posted on 10/14/2012 9:09:25 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

A toothbrush, penicillin tablets and a lifetime supply of toilet paper.


110 posted on 10/14/2012 9:09:56 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

As Leroy Jethro Gibs would say.... never go anywhere without a knife...


111 posted on 10/14/2012 9:11:17 AM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

A Delorean, a hover-board, and an orange vest jacket.


112 posted on 10/14/2012 9:11:45 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: occamrzr06
I was curious after your post, so I looked it up.
Apparently, the Mediterranean ares, southern Europe and north Africa had a sort of citrus fruit they called citron around 100AD.

It wasn't until around 1490AD, that citrus was widely available in the greater European areas.

So if I get plunked down in southerner Italy, no problem, in northern Great Britain, I need vitamin C and a coat.

113 posted on 10/14/2012 9:12:43 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

I think what you take is less important than the preparation you do before you leave.

Understanding the beliefs, morals, superstitions, history of the people you are going to be living with would make all the difference.

Roll playing expected scenarios would be helpful. Say you bring a cache of Viagra pills. How do you get one to the King and what do you do when the cache runs out?

It’s not the “magic” things you take with you. It’s how do you make the things you find there “magic”.


114 posted on 10/14/2012 9:14:07 AM PDT by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1
1.& 2.



And 3. boomstick


115 posted on 10/14/2012 9:16:21 AM PDT by stylin19a (Obama ->The Jayson Blair administration)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

1. A slide rule
2. A pound of salt
3. A Latin-English dictionary


116 posted on 10/14/2012 9:25:25 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008BAL1OK/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

Leo Frankowski wrote a series of SF novels on exactly this subject, starting with THE CROSS TIME ENGINEER. In it, a modern engineer gets transported back to 13th century Poland ... and decides that if he’s going to be living there, he’s going to make it worth living there! I should go back and re-read those. Pretty fun books (with a lot of engineering shoehorned in).


117 posted on 10/14/2012 9:26:13 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ( "Be Breitbart, baby!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RandallFlagg

If the swallows dropped the coconut on me, would I only get a flesh wound, birds are cowards?


118 posted on 10/14/2012 9:26:52 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | View Replies]

To: Eye of Unk

But the technology you want to give to the Native Americans or Australian Aborigines was originally created by Europeans. Don’t you see the irony in what you are saying? You want to show the “Euroweenies” that the American Indians are more advanced than they are by giving European and Euro-American technology, inventions, and discoveries over to them, while they invent nothing. Don’t you see the incongruity here?

And American Indians not warmongers? I think you really need to brush up on your tribal history.

Besides I don’t think wishing away the United States of America would really be all that good for world history.


119 posted on 10/14/2012 9:28:00 AM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

3 items?

Time machine.

Ohio class submarine.

Full load of Trident.


120 posted on 10/14/2012 9:31:17 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

ping for later


121 posted on 10/14/2012 9:34:37 AM PDT by gleeaikin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Eye of Unk

Look at it this way.

The native Americans had as much time to develop technology as the Europeans, African and Asians....and they didn’t.

They were content in their lives of what ever depending on the part of the continent.

As an example the north eastern Indians, slashed and burned, exploited the land and moved on.


122 posted on 10/14/2012 9:35:37 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: DManA
A great SciFi read based on the Connecticut Yankee theme is
“Least Darkness Fall”, a modern man (I think it was written in the 1930s, I seem to remember a Mussolini reference!) transport to Ostrogothic Italy. The hero survives and pieces back together the Western Empire.
123 posted on 10/14/2012 9:38:16 AM PDT by Reily (l)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1
1) Cheese
2) A moose
2) A stuned beeber.

Bring those three things and the natives would think you were a God.

Do I spend too much time on this site?

124 posted on 10/14/2012 9:42:16 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

Depends on where you landed in 742 AD. The world was much less populated at that time. There’s a good chance that you land somewhere that a human being has never put eyes on. Or for that matter you may end up in the middle of the Pacific, or Antarctica. It says when, not where. I could shoot a pound of gravel out of a musketoon and do a hell of a lot of damage before my demise, and 25lb of black powder can make a very nasty bomb(s).


125 posted on 10/14/2012 9:42:38 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1
Being transported too far back in time could be extremely hazardous due to people of the era not being noted for their tolerance and enlightened attitudes. Suddenly showing up unable to communicate in the local language and appearing radically different from the local population would likely result some sort of unpleasant mob action against you. Your personal safety is priority number one.

Before I can answer your question, I'd need to know if I would be able prepare ahead of time by doing such things as learning the language and customs of the people as well being able to wear period appropriate attire?

126 posted on 10/14/2012 9:51:57 AM PDT by fso301
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jsanders2001

Solar powered note book full of all technological advances

Kevlar vest

100 pounds of peppercorns


127 posted on 10/14/2012 9:54:08 AM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

Does the Library of Congress count as one item?


128 posted on 10/14/2012 9:54:46 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

1. The best 21st century knife I could find.
2. The biggest piece of flint I could carry.
3. A combined copy of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution to bring enlightenment to the backward masses.

This does assume that my Latin training of 40+ years ago comes flooding back to me.


129 posted on 10/14/2012 9:59:35 AM PDT by anonsquared
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

A really good tri-lingual Greek-Latin-English dictionary.

A document or book with a detailed description of the metallurgy, engineering and chemistry needed to construct match-lock era fire-arms and cannon (ideally also tri-lingual).

A large sack of gold.

(742 is an unpleasant choice — the Empire is in the hands of the Iconoclast Constantine V Copronymous — of course at this point Rome is still Orthodox, so I think I’d hope to end up in Rome and offer my services to Pope Zacharius.)


130 posted on 10/14/2012 10:04:31 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1
1. A good looking dude

2. A mattress

3. carton of cigarettes

131 posted on 10/14/2012 10:04:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1; RJS1950

Actually, being killed as a heretic for technical knowledge would be vanishingly unlikely in 742. Before the 11th century, the Church, both East and West, followed the wisdom of the Fathers that the execution of heretics was a horror to be avoided — heretics needed to be silence, but they also need to be given a maximal chance of repenting — all the great heresiarchs of the Christological controversies (and the Orthodox they accused of being heretics when they had the ear of the secular authorities, cf. the treatment of St. John Chrysostom) died in exile. Likewise the belief in witchcraft was condemned as pagan superstition until about the 11th century, so it’s unlikely technical prowess, especially if one showed how it was done, would be treated as witchcraft.

(In the East these attitudes continued until they finally broke down in Russia in the 17th century — in the West, heresy as a capital offense and the belief in witchcraft seem to have been picked up from Muslim Spain in the 11th century.)


132 posted on 10/14/2012 10:13:21 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: svcw

Rosehips. The rugosa varieties get the size of small grapes.


133 posted on 10/14/2012 10:16:50 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

HitchHikers Guide to the Universe

Towel

BabelFish


134 posted on 10/14/2012 10:21:00 AM PDT by HangnJudge
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wardaddy

endless supply of STD defeating antibiotics since I am sure to be rather popular with the girls given my tools will make me popular
***************************************************
The “French Pox” (if in England) or the “English Pox” (if in France) can be defeated with pills ,, however you will have to get used to women with hairy legs and pits who bath once a year...


135 posted on 10/14/2012 10:22:47 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

OK, here is my go at it.
year 742, 3 things.
1) A modern made sailing ship capable of carrying cargo. (I’ll hire crew there.) it will have solar powered water desalination with a few solar powered luxuries, and a small solar powered engine, so I can pilot it myself if need be to a port (slow, but needed until I get some crew).

2) modern sea charts showing the full world and major currents. I will let cartographers copy them for a fee.

3) A solar powered computer (kept on my ship) with a detailed history including the recipe for gun powder and the locations of early Spanish goldmines in Cuba.

The goal, hire some crew, including armed and armored fighters, make raids on the Aztecs, take some quick and easy gold. Use that to convince the English to conquer Cuba, and the new world. and push Britain into world power status long before anyone else is even aware of what is going on.

I would be the new Columbus and hated by the Left today.


136 posted on 10/14/2012 10:29:53 AM PDT by Cyclops08
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

I’d say the most obvious choice is some sort of survival/swiss knife...depending on your balance of protection vs tool.

But while certain books are a good idea, large volumes, or anything large you are going to have to carry around, keep dry and hope no one gets curious about until you, hopefully, can develop some sort of secure base...but who knows how long that could be?

So imagine having to actually carry or wear what you have, and most likely not want anyone to see it.

As for language, I would also say you can LEARN a lot of things before going, and those who have good memories might be able to absorb a lot of knowledge rather than just count on a huge book that might disappear two days in.

Another big question is how bad one’s eyesight is and how much that factors in...tough call there.


137 posted on 10/14/2012 10:30:04 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 135 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1
1: A modern pharmacopoeia

2: A good book on metallurgy

3: Special Forces field manual on medicine

In other words useful knowledge.

138 posted on 10/14/2012 10:32:13 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gaffer

AND you need the time machine to get home to a Hero’s welcome.


139 posted on 10/14/2012 10:34:42 AM PDT by MtnMan101
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Cyclops08

And if you’re plopped down right in the middle of Aquitaine or the Dordogne high and dry? All but useless other than the solar powered computer. I’d be interested in seeing one of those, by the way. Who makes one? If we’re talking vaporware I’m going to change one of mine to a solar powered flying car, lol.

Funny how many people on FR are relying upon solar for this little exercise in time travel. Every thread I’ve ever been on that broached the subject, solar is trashed. I’d like to see it succeed and become broadly viable, personally, but many FReepers appear to disagree.


140 posted on 10/14/2012 10:38:48 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1
Three 500 pound ingots of 52100 bearing steel. I would become a sword smith.

Regards,
GtG

141 posted on 10/14/2012 10:44:38 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

I just want ONE thing JUST ONE OF THESE....
A fully armed and well supplied

Nuclear Aircraft Carrier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgkPhdrNXJo&feature=related


142 posted on 10/14/2012 10:47:42 AM PDT by MtnMan101
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1
Europe is too cold for me ,, unless perhaps I could choose Greece or Italy.

1.) money in the form of a large sack of gold/silver and copper coins common to the 8th century, including the roman "bunga bunga" coinage pictured below. (I'll buy a good knife and passage to a warm climate ASAP!)

2.) a survival book detailing how to make penicillin , water filters and such.

3.) a sack of seeds , "heirloom" varieties of corn , carrots , beans , onions , tomatoes etc. etc.


143 posted on 10/14/2012 10:50:46 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

I’d take that Chia Pet stuff and, like johnny Appleseed, i’d be putting it everywhere. Gives a 1300 year head start to it and might stop them from make that annoying cottage industry and its stoopid song.


144 posted on 10/14/2012 10:51:06 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

My three things from the future I would take with me would be 1. A time machine 2. The self-replicating Big Mac 3. 2018 Corvette.


145 posted on 10/14/2012 10:52:43 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lonesome in Massachussets

The major Plague epidemics occurred in 540 at Pelusium, Egypt, reached Constantinople in 542 and spread into Europe and Asia (the Plague of Justinian) in the following decade; 14th century Europe, following the caravan routes, it was in the lower Volga River basin in 1345, the Caucasus and Crimea by 1346, Constantinople by 1347, Alexandria in the autumn of 1347, Cyprus and Sicily in that year, Italy by winter 1347, Marseilles by January of 1348, Paris in spring 1348, followed by Germany and the Low Countries in that year, Norway in May 1349, eastern Europe by 1350, and finally Russia in 1351, but smaller outbreaks continued for about 200 more years; Austria in 1711; the Balkans from 1770-1772. The last major pandemic ran from 1855-1896 worldwide, but mostly in China and India, wherein more than 12 million died. Manchuria in 1910–1911 witnessed about 60,000 deaths due to pneumonic Plague with a repeat in 1920–1921; and a minor outbreak occurred as recently as the summer of 1994 in Surat, India closely following an earthquake in September 1993.

From 1150-1200 there was a major warming throughout Europe. This, coupled with the rise of the mercantile class, led to improved diet and greater population growth. By 1340, Europe was significantly overpopulated. This was followed by the so-called Little Ice Age, which ended by 1351. The resulting climate was colder and wetter than normal. With population higher than it had been in some time, and crop yields reduced, per capita caloric intake fell precipitously, general health declined, and the pest population increased. Not a welcome combination of circumstances.


146 posted on 10/14/2012 11:02:01 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Gaffer

LOL ... post of the thread! Can’t top that one.


147 posted on 10/14/2012 11:04:24 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: JDoutrider

mark


148 posted on 10/14/2012 11:06:17 AM PDT by JDoutrider
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1
Here are my three items, with links included for you to purchase them for me before I am sent back.

Give me these three things, and you can send me back naked for all I care.

If all goes as planned, by the time I die the world will have advanced by 1400 years. Plus I would have destroyed the concept of Islam and most other pagan religions. God willing of course.

You can PR me with the information I need to collect my prize for winning, because after checking out all the other choices made, mine are a lock.

  1. The Interlinear Bible: Hebrew/Greek/English (Hardcover)
  2. English Grammar for Students of Latin: The Study Guide for Those Learning Latin (hard cover edition)
  3. "MINERALS OF THE WORLD" - by Ole Johnsen



Greek Hebrew English Interlinear Bible.jpg
The Interlinear Bible:
Hebrew/Greek/English



English Grammar for Students of Latin: The Study Guide for Those Learning Latin



"MINERALS OF THE WORLD" - by Ole Johnsen



149 posted on 10/14/2012 11:22:58 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

Give me a month to record the information I’d need, and 3 notebooks. That’s all I’d need.


150 posted on 10/14/2012 11:23:15 AM PDT by Melas (u)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-150151-200201-215 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson