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HAVE YOU USED THE GENOGRAPHIC PROJECT?
ME

Posted on 11/28/2012 2:41:29 PM PST by WHATNEXT?

Thinking of getting the kit for a Christmas gift.


TOPICS: Education; Health/Medicine; History; Science
KEYWORDS: dna; familytree; genoproject; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble
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I got the National Geographic Christmas catalog and it has a full page on the Genographic Project. There is also information at the link site for Family Tree that will only give DNA connected to a family name.

So, the question is ... trace back DNA of person to routes of origin or only family name connection or both.

Thoughts from those who have used one or both.

1 posted on 11/28/2012 2:41:39 PM PST by WHATNEXT?
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what do the results show?


2 posted on 11/28/2012 2:47:53 PM PST by MNDude
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I bought the kit several years ago when they first began the project. Supposedly my DNA showed my routes of origin were from Africa, which then traveled to Europe. Nothing more specific. But, with the advances of DNA testing since then, I’m not sure if they are offering any information of more significance.


3 posted on 11/28/2012 2:56:16 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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4 posted on 11/28/2012 2:58:10 PM PST by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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Is that the same one that Acncestry.com offers that has 700,000 bits of data? I have the 34 marker one that wasn't much help. So what if someone along the line changed their name. Will the DNA help.
5 posted on 11/28/2012 3:01:56 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Hadn't heard of this. I saw this blurb on their website:

"National Geographic Explorer-in-Residence Robert Ballard, best known for his discovery of the R.M.S. Titanic, thought he knew everything about his ancestry, with a genealogy that traces back to the British Isles and Holland. While most of his DNA agrees with this story, he learned something unexpected from his Geno 2.0 results—his genome is about 2% Oceanian, connecting him to the first seafarers who settled the islands off the coast of southeast Asia around 50,000 years ago, probably via the Dutch side of his family."

6 posted on 11/28/2012 3:02:02 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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I am awaiting my results from the 2.0 kit. It says:

“Most non-Africans are about 2.5% Neanderthal. Indigenous sub-Subsaharan Africans have no Neanderthal DNA because their ancestors did not migrate through Eurasia.”

It also says that non-Africans average 1.6% “Denisovan,” a newly discovered Eurasian hominid “cousin” with whom there also was interbreeding.

7 posted on 11/28/2012 3:17:48 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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The Nat Geo GENO 2.0 DNA kit is very up-to-date to have the Denisovan DNA in the test already. They only found the first evidence of such a “hominin” in 2010! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denisova_hominin Denisova hominins (/dɪ̈ˈniːsÉ™vÉ™/), or Denisovans, are Paleolithic-era members of the genus Homo that may belong to a previously unknown species of human. In March 2010, scientists announced the discovery of a finger bone fragment of a juvenile female who lived about 41,000 years ago, found in the remote Denisova Cave in the Altai Mountains in Siberia, a cave which has also been inhabited by Neanderthals and modern humans.[1][2][3] A tooth and toe bone belonging to different members of the same population have since been found. Analysis of the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) of the finger bone showed it to be genetically distinct from the mtDNAs of Neanderthals and modern humans.[4] Subsequent study of the nuclear genome from this specimen suggests this group shares a common origin with Neanderthals, they ranged from Siberia to Southeast Asia, and they lived among and interbred with the ancestors of some present-day modern humans, with up to 6% of the DNA of Melanesians and Australian Aborigines deriving from Denisovans.[5][6] Similar analysis of a toe bone discovered in 2011 is underway.[7]


8 posted on 11/28/2012 3:25:16 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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My DNA is going to show that I am the long lost brother of whoever wins that big lottery jackpot.


9 posted on 11/28/2012 3:29:59 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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I did this and the “cohen” project DNA.

Unsurprisingly, I found I am middle eastern with a dash of European.

Have a common ancestor male with most other Jewish folk and most arabs circa 3500 years ago.


10 posted on 11/28/2012 3:32:38 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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Adam?


11 posted on 11/28/2012 3:37:24 PM PST by dinoparty
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Abraham, presumably.


12 posted on 11/28/2012 3:41:52 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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If you already know the village or district where your ancestors lived, do you learn anything useful from getting this DNA information?


13 posted on 11/28/2012 3:54:02 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Daffynition

You’re just daring them to pick you off.


14 posted on 11/28/2012 4:08:38 PM PST by bigheadfred
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My husband and I did the National Geographic DNA thing a few years ago and we thought it was really fun and interesting. I had previously read Brian Sykes “Seven Daughters of Eve” and it was a good sidekick for the results. Mostly because it was easier to visualize the ancestress with his little fictional account. For the record, he was Helena and I was from Jasmine (the eldest and youngest of the mothers respectively). We also go a nifty dvd that was about 1.5 hours and showed the original scientist traveling through the main places that the project refers to, finishing with the modern day area in Kazakstan (I think) that is the crossroads for each of the lines who left Africa.

My maternal line was from Ireland about 150 years ago, and my dad is a professional genealogist who has traced the actual women back. Our Jasmine line is shown to have travelled along the coastline from the Levant around the Mediterranean and around Spain up to Ireland. My grandmother’s grandmother emigrated from Ireland to the northern coast of England, and my grandmother moved from there to the east coast of the US. My mom and I always have been happier at the beach than anywhere else on earth, saying we wouldn’t be able to live further than a day’s journey away, so it was funny to see that our line has been very coastal for ten thousand years, and maybe there was something to our love of the beach!


15 posted on 11/28/2012 4:24:55 PM PST by Rutabega (If you don't want me in your personal affairs, don't stick your hand out for my help.)
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To: mountainlion

I don’t think so. Family Tree for surname is the other option. Men have a clearer lineage record from DNA. A male family members DNA can trace which line of your surname your family follows. If your immigration surname is Taylor and many Taylor lines immigrated, you can trace which of the immigrants is your line.

Has anybody used the surname from Family Tree?


16 posted on 11/28/2012 4:52:12 PM PST by WHATNEXT?
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I’d do it, but it would expose the fact my parents got me by raiding a warthog litter.


17 posted on 11/28/2012 4:57:26 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: GunRunner

Yes, the newer 2.0 version is what is being offered. The old price was something like $99.00 and now it is $199.00. Blurb says money over the cost of DNA research goes to fund getting more DNA from groups in migrant route areas.

I read on Wikipedia about Native Americans not wanting to give their DNA for such purposes.


18 posted on 11/28/2012 4:57:47 PM PST by WHATNEXT?
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Weird... it traced my DNA:

...and said I came from these guys!:


19 posted on 11/28/2012 4:58:56 PM PST by Boogieman
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I did it several years ago with Family Tree DNA, had 36 Y - dna (male) regions checked and 12 regions of mtDNA (female) checked.

Came back that I was a member of haplogroup I1a (Y-DNA) and a member of haplogroup W (mtDNA). Since then those have been refined to I1a1 and W5a haplogroups.

Ila1:

“The I1a lineage likely has its roots in Northern France. Today it is found most frequently within Viking/Scandinavian populations in northwest Europe and has since spread down into Central and Eastern Europe, where it is found at low frequencies”

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I/2006-05/1147111269

W5a:

The W5a lineage spread from Russia to a broad but distinctive area of northern Europe. These dates and range correspond to the spread of the nomadic peoples that brought the horse to Europe.

W5a’s are distinctively distributed in a corridor long the Baltic, up into Scandinavia, and then down Germany, back along the Danube to Romania, and overseas to the British Isles, and the Atlantic Coasts of Portugal and Spain. The west European distribution corresponds to that of the Germanic groups that spread through Europe beginning 3,000 years ago. However the emergence times of the subgroups date back long before that. If the modern distribution is Germanic, then these subgroups must represent horse culture lineages ancestral to the Germans.

http://www.thecid.com/w5.htm

Both haplogroup findings pretty much follow my known family tree - Scots Irish on my father’s side, German / English - Irish on my mother’s side.

The funny thing is later I had some in depth blood testing done due a rare blood disorder. It turned out I had an genetic allele found in the French population near Lorraine, France. I later learned that my ancestral home of Falkland Scotland was home of Mary of Guise from Lorraine, she was the mother of Mary Queen of Scots.


20 posted on 11/28/2012 4:58:56 PM PST by Sparky1776
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