Posted on 06/01/2013 9:46:34 AM PDT by the scotsman
'A copy of an unknown Robert the Bruce letter from the build-up to the Battle of Bannockburn has been discovered.
The letter, sent in 1310, asks English King Edward II to stop persecuting the Scots.
It shows Robert asserting his God-given authority as king of the Scots and addressing Edward as his equal.
The script, thought to have been transcribed from the original, was discovered by chance by a professor of Scottish history at Glasgow University.
Bruce's Scottish troops defeated the English army at the Battle of Bannockburn in 1314.
The new letter was found in a document which dates from about the turn of the 16th Century and has presented historians with fresh information about a pivotal time in the wars of Scottish independence.'
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
Yep, some genealogy is hard to ferret out. There is so much online, now, that I was almost overwhelmed at the volume of new information that was available for me to add to what I had: which had taken me 20 years to compile.
The rest of it just fell out of the ether. I’m still gathering it up. Mind-boggling.
Me, too. In fact, as James Robert, I'm named after a number of Scot kings. Family legend has it that there has to be someone named J.R. in every generation. Nobody remembers why, of course.
The family (family, not clan) coat of arms has as motto, I saved the King! UK college of heraldry says that a family member was knighted by The Bruce for rowing him across a river or lake to escape the English some time in the period leading up to Bannockburn.
The McNaughtens lost their castle due to drink and trickery of the Campbell's and the love of a woman.
“I am named after Robert the Bruce.”
Good thing you weren’t named after the Battle of Bannockburn. :)
Didn’t the Bruce’s hold titles in England also?
Robert is my given name, Bruce is my middle name.
Robert Bruce Lurker...has a nice ring to it.
(kidding)
I’m Clan MacLaren. My daughter just found out we lost our castle in a drunken bet. I guess it’s a common event. :)
We’re going to the Scottish Renaissance Fair in a few weeks, and were delighted to learn that it’s put on by our clan, and we’ll have a clan tent in which to congregate.
I am clan Douglas and Menzies from way back. Then there is some ‘high’ German and supposedly a full blood Cherokee in that mix. Rumor has it the Douglas clan and the Campbell clan never really saw eye to eye.
Since the letter is from the 1300's, we all were named after him.
:>)
Aye, the Campbell’s were a bunch of troublemakers and cheats. ;)
Ok since it is a public forum I will silently smile and NOT disagree.
I prefer Robert Bruce the Lurker myself. LOL
I might be oversimplifying, but that's my general understanding of the incident...
Very interesting.
I come from a long line of horse thieves. But my grandmother’s maiden name is Kirkpatrick and I don’t think it’s Irish. Scottish, maybe?
You got them both then!
Campbell clan here as we’ll as Beckett
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