Posted on 08/27/2013 10:44:47 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
Partial Transcript of the Mark Levin Show aired live on Monday, August 19, 2013
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Hello everybody, Mark Levin here, our number 877-381-3811, 877-381-3811.
Mark Levin: Before we jump in, all I can say is, Wow! You guys, open your microphones a second. Thousands of people at both booksignings. Wasn’t that unbelievable?
Staffer: There were a lot of people there, it was great.
Mark Levin: And the people were just spectacular, weren’t they? Except for one guy in New Jersey which I’ll talk about later.
Staffer: [chuckles]
Mark Levin: This… this birther stuff is way, way out of contr…”Now Ted Cruz” … I swear I almost hit this guy… “Ted Cruz is not a citizen!” No, he’s born to an American mother, no he’s born in Canada to an American mother. So all you pregnant ladies travelling overseas: According to certain birther, uh, groups, if you have a child while you are on vacation, they’re not Americans. They’re not natural-born Americans. I just thought you’d wanna know, if you were thinking of your kid as a potential presidential candidate, uh, because they say so. They have no historical background whatsoever… None! But it’s, it’s just amazing! Absolutely stunning! But we had so many wonderful people, and let me add, all races, both genders… I don’t know the sexual preferences, that wasn’t a requirement to say hello…young people, elderly, middle age people. A particularly young crowd, yeah, we had dogs come too, everybody so well behaved, and uh, it was a pleasure. In New York, we were there about four-and-a-half hours, in New Jersey about five, five-and-a-half hours, and I wanted to be respectful to everybody, so… I just want to thank you all, and this Saturday, Tyson’s Corner, Virginia, at Barnes and Noble. I should add, if you want to see the crowd that was at New York, Mr. Producer went down the line, and this was early on, this, this line kept growing and growing throughout the day…you can go look at uh MarkLevinShow.com on our website, as well as the social sites MarkLevinShow Facebook, MarkLevinShow Twitter. Um, Christians, Coptic Christians are being wiped out in Egypt. Their churches are being burned to the ground….
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Mark Levin: Alright, lets go to uh, Steve in New York, the great WABC, go!
Steve: Great one, it’s great to talk to you, what an honor.
Mark Levin: My honor, thank you, my friend.
Steve: Oh, I got a great story for you, I loved your uh, Hannity special, I enjoyed it very much, I listened to it three times over the weekend…
Mark Levin: Oh, thank you.
Steve: …I got my wife, I got my wife to tape for me, or TIVO it, and she watched it. And she really enjoyed it. She’s not big on politics or anything, and she gets sick of hearing me talk about it, but it was funny ‘cause she said “He is so calm, Steve.” He was, she was trying to do a little wifey/husband training? And…
Mark Levin: Uh huh.
Steve: she said “He is so calm, and he gets his point across. He didn’t raise his voice, or get upset…
Mark Levin: [chuckles]
Steve: …or anything!”
Mark Levin: [breaks out into laughter]
Steve: …and I laughed so hard. I said “How do you, uh, where do you think I learned how to yell?” [laughs] “I just listen to Mark.” And she knows you’re my hero, I go around quotin’ ya, and tellin’ everybody to listen to ya, and…
Mark Levin: Well, that’s great.
Steve: she just … to get me to calm down a little, and I said you just need to listen to Mark. [laughs]
Mark Levin: Well, thank you, uh…well listen, you know what, this is called passion, just remind her it’s passion, you know, and um…what was truly exceptional about the Hannity program, number one, the man has enormous class and decency, and number two, he was asking me questions because he wanted me to inform the public about what I’d written, and to engage the studio audience. And notice we didn’t have a bunch of left-wing bomb throwers just yelling and talking over people. There were conversations actually occurring, did you notice that?
Steve: Yes, there was no crazy, I mean a lot of times he’s got the left wingers on there, and it’s just, kind, it’s almost funny to watch, but that was so interesting and…and it didn’t get me upset, and it just, I just wanted to listen to it over and over and absorb every second of it, and every bit of information, it…it’s just brilliant, Mark, I, you know I hope when um…we’ve got President Cruz, he has the wisdom to make you his chief of staff or vice-president.
Mark Levin: No, no no no no no. And he’s got a great chief of staff, by the way. No, I…I do what I do, and uh, and he will do a great job should he be president. Thank you for your call my friend. And uh, I’m so sick of these birthers. I was going to tell you about this, uh, incident. Just a wonderful group of people, uh, we were in Bookends, Ridgewood, New Jersey, and everyone was respectful until…and it was hot outside, it got hot, hotter than uh originally forecast and it was a very long line, and you know we try to go through it quickly out of respect for everybody in line, but I also try to be respectful to everybody in line. Um…but this fella [breathes out] gets in my face and first of all he points to some obscure note on page I don’t know whatever and he said [cough] excuse me folks, and he says “You were wrong about this, you were wrong about”, and honestly I, I, I didn’t have time to read it, and I’ll go back and check it, if I’m wrong about it I’ll fix it, and that happens sometimes in these books when you’re going into the notes, you might put a word when you mean another word, or a state when you mean another state, so I’m going to check it out, I just haven’t had time. And then he goes, he says uh “And Ted Cruz is not eligible to be president. He’s not a natural-born Citizen.” And I thought to myself, you know I, this is not a subject that I have studied so thoroughly, but he’s born of a mother who is an American citizen. Doesn’t that make him a natural-born Ci… “No, but he was in Canada when he was born!” Okay, but she wasn’t Canadian, she was an American citizen! She was an American citizen. And so, the issue isn’t what the Constitution says in that regard, the issue is how do we interpret that. And the way I interpret it is, his mother’s an American citizen, so he’s an American citizen! That’s not a constitutional issue, that’s an interpretive issue… or, a statutory issue if Congress has passed some law subsequent to that to enforce that provision of the Constitution. So, the face of the Constitution isn’t terribly helpful. If he was born of non-citizens in a foreign country that would be easy, and there’s a lot of easy cases. So the guy gets in my face, and he starts pointing and pointing, and I looked at him and I pointed back, and I cursed, unfortunately, but the, because, uh you know, he was…he was a nutjob. And I thought to myself: Why do you come here and do that? Is this, is this sort of the way you…you excite yourself or something? No. So, I just want you folks to know who like Ted Cruz. I…I assume they’re going to do this to Rubio, or some of these other people too, whether you like ‘em or not for president I’m just making a point, but now this has become an entire industry. And of course [chuckles] Ted Cruz [laughs], he immediately issued today or yesterday his long form birth certificate. Now, some of this is probably coming from the left. So now they’re the birthers. But some of it’s coming from others, too. People just get obsessed, or conspiratorial, and there’s no end to it, on a matter like this, and there’s nothing I can say or point to that’s going to change their mind. But in my view there’s no doubt about it that he’s eligible for president, should he choose to run, just as I believe McCain was eligible for president, when he ran. So…that’s my opinion! You may not like it… But what particularly bothered me about this guy…he was disrespectful in his conduct to everybody else standing there. They were pleasant, talking to each other, you know…listening, watching and so forth. I’m a big boy; I’ve seen this and a thousand times worse. But he was quite obnoxious. He’s the only one…oh no there was another guy, had a prob, wha wha, he what…he had a problem, he was screaming upstairs, I don’t know what he was screamin’ about. It was kind of eventful there in New Jersey. No, there wasn’t anything like that in New York, was there boys? [Staff: No. Peaceful in ji…you know in Long Island] It was peaceful on Long Island! [chuckles] But is was peaceful in New Jersey, too. It really, really was. It was just terrific. If you could have seen that line, well, actually you can. We have the uh video, and this is just the start of the day with the line. It got longer and longer at uh… at Book Review in Long Island if you want to take a look on MarkLevinShow.com or MarkLevi…oh there is now? The…the New Jersey line? Okay. Both lines. On MarkLevinShow.com, are they both on the social sites too? Or…just the Long Island. But we’ll put the other one up later so some of you can see yourselves, too. Alright. GoldLine!
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(further information and videos at: http://queenofliberty.com/2013/08/14/mark-levin-rolls-out-his-new-book/)
Any case to be made for Cruz’s ineligibility must clear impossibly high hurdles. The only definition for the term natural-born citizen I’ve seen put forward that Cruz would meet, and is intelligible (even if preposterous), is the following: Natural Born Citizen = Everyone other than someone born in a foreign country to parents who were foreigners. How would John Jay not be repulsed by such a definition, however high a regard he would have for Cruz’s patriotism and brilliance?
Please see my reply to another individual in which I explained that dual citizen status, strictly speaking, is not incompatible with natural-born citizen status. Natural-born citizen status sounds in natural law, and in the Law of Nations. Any country of whom an individual is a natural-born citizen status holds a superior ‘claim’, if you will, to any other sovereign nation, regardless of what Jamaica or some other country starved for solid citizens tries to do with its citizenship statutes.
Thanks for asking. I’m catching up on my correspondence now!
You’re the goods, nesnah!
Yeah that physically present in the United States thingy wasnt fulfilled...
ah well...
(But those idiots at Ancestry have insisted for years that my great grandmother was born here ...)
LOL
Pub. L. 82-414 § 301(a)(7) grants citizenship at birth by law, i.e. naturalization.
Were you born in the US and subject to the jurisdiction thereof?
Such a move would not be internationally recognized and therefore would be unenforceable, even inside Jamaica, which would find itself internationally isolated (in the very least) if it did try to enforce such action.
Which us why talking about dual citizenship per se is useless. My “straw dog” is far fetched but many citizens of the USA could just walk into a passport office of their parents’ country of origin and become citizens. If that country wished to cause trouble, it could just issue the citizenship unilaterally. Dual citizenship is a non issue as long as there is no evidence of loyalty.
Either you have not been paying attention or you are willfully ignorant.
Xzins, I and others have presented incontrovertible fact and history based Constitutional arguments as to why he is eligible. The burden of proof is on those who claim otherwise. They have not done so. They make the same stupid vapid arguments which will never be accepted by any court in America.
I can only conclude that this is a concerted effort to undermine Ted Cruz's potential run.
7 FAM 1131.6-3 Not Citizens by “Naturalization”
(CT:CON-349; 12-13-2010)
Section 201(g) NA and section 301(g) INA (8 U.S.C. 1401(g)) (formerly section 301(a)(7) INA) both specify that naturalization is “the conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after birth.” Clearly, then, Americans who acquired their citizenship by birth abroad to U.S. citizens are not considered naturalized citizens under either act.
Furthermore, SCOTUS has opined natural born citizenship status “stands upon the footing of the native born.” Consequently, only a native born citizen could be a natural born citizen.
Even SCOTUS, no longer a truly trustworthy house, has not determined a final definition of natural born.
A lot of experts do say that the best working definition is a person born to at least one American citizen in good standing (including old enough to confer citizenship), or a person born in this country to parent (s) legally in this country.
In my own opinion, a native born citizen who lives and votes abroad for years is still technically a natural born citizen but wholly unfit for the office of president. I myself am natural born, but possibly unfit from the decade I spent living elsewhere.
It’s not a legal argument. In that you are correct.
And yes, his opinion shines through.
But an opinion based on things other than the law, in this context, is useless.
This is not a considered opinion. It is merely a conclusion. Conclusory arguments do not win legal cases.
frankly kid methinks you protesteth too much...
we are trying to determine whether or not Ted Cruz is eligible to be POTUS and you are accusing anyone who questions his right to run...
we want to avoid any challenge from the Democrats or be able to answer them...
dont you ???
do you really think after 5 years of the Conservatives digging into Obamas records for proof hes eligible or not that the Democrats are just going to sit on their hands about anyone we put up as our nominee in 2016 who is not NBC of NBC parents of NBC parents ???
whats your problem ???
Cruz is fine.
Citizenship at birth is not natural born citizenship. Wong Kim Ark was a citizen at birth, and not a natural born citizen. 169 U.S. 649, 1898. Nowhere in the 14th Amendment, upon which the Wong Kim decision was based, is the term ‘natural born citizen’ used, which was deliberate because, as its author John Bingham noted. “I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen….”
Obama, McCain, Rubio, Cruz, Jindal, Haley, and every anchor baby were naturalized at birth. They were all made citizens based upon Article 1 Section 8 under which 301 falls, a collection of rules by Congress constituting an Uniform Rule for Naturalizatio. The one office that required a natural born citizen was the presidency. The vice president was added later.
If we don't agree with the framers, we can amend Article II Section 1. But twenty six attempts failed to get a super-majority in Congress and three Quarters of the States to agree. I would have followed Vattel and made the children of military citizens, born 'beyond the seas' natural born. But when Obama and McCaskill took the first step, in February 2008, the "Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act", SB 2678, and it failed. it is clear that an amendment is no certainty. Seven Congressmen tried to amend Article II Section 1 since 2001, John Conyers (twice), Menendez and Frank, Nickles, Hatch and Rohrabacher (twice), all failed.
No amendment or Supreme Court has ever modified the above definition.
You are exactly right on this. I've decided that the Constitution comes first and anyone who refuses to obey it will not get my vote. Levin can kiss my behind. He is a coward for ignoring the truth and a traitor for misrepresenting it.
Nice. You can't rebut the direct quotes I have posted, so descend to insults. You are incorrect, but refuse to admit it. What part of "read some history" is too daunting?
Here Here!
The fact that we have had evil men in high positions in our history is not legitimate support fot your quisling position.
Who is disagree that children born in the US to citizen parents are not natural born citizens?
No one that I know of and that is what this is talking about. ““I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen….””
This does NOT say that ONLY children born in the USA of citizen parents are natural born citizens.
It says simply that those born in the US to citizen parents are natural born citizens. A point with which everyone agrees, and also a point that is moot to this discussion.
We are discussing those born overseas to US citizens.
About them the 1790, 1795, and current 1952 Naturalization law and State Department pam are all in agreement. They are citizens at birth.
As the relevant state department pam says: they are NOT considered naturalized. They are citizens at birth.
7 FAM 1131.6-3 Not Citizens by “Naturalization”
(CT:CON-349; 12-13-2010)
Section 201(g) NA and section 301(g) INA (8 U.S.C. 1401(g)) (formerly section 301(a)(7) INA) both specify that naturalization is “the conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after birth.” Clearly, then, Americans who acquired their citizenship by birth abroad to U.S. citizens are not considered naturalized citizens under either act.
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