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Glenn Beck supports gay marriage.
Vanity/ New York Times ^ | August 06, 2013 | Mozilla

Posted on 09/06/2013 1:28:28 PM PDT by Mozilla

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To: ansel12

I wasn’t talking to you, boy. Besides, you didn’t answer me so you can kiss my ass.


61 posted on 09/06/2013 3:54:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: GeronL

Ask and ye shall receive. I have just learned an aspect of utopianism I had never thought of before. Great post, thank you very much.


62 posted on 09/06/2013 3:56:09 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: Mozilla

What to expect from a mam who was a dope and drug addict liberal till his 40s

And a devout south basher

Screw him

He’s right on some stuff and I like sexton and wilcow

But beck is no answer

....ola


63 posted on 09/06/2013 3:57:31 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: Zeneta
No, what the left hears is your political support as you join them in breaking down the barriers to social liberalism.

This is the libertarian goal, one that conservatives disagree with, and that liberals thank for.

Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government's treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.

By the way, you won this equality for homosexuals, so does this mean America is now going to start voting conservative, and voting to end big government and welfare, or does it just keep making things worse?

64 posted on 09/06/2013 4:06:42 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: cripplecreek
I answered your question in post 48, now I would like to continue it by looking at your statement, but I need a little clarification.

In my genealogy research I’m finding a lot of ancestors on the frontier who lived together as husband and wife for years before a traveling minister would come along and marry them.

"Lot's" of ancestors on the frontier with no access to a minister or official or who could post a Bann on a church door or obtain a license, that is a little hard to believe that you would have lot's of them.

What years were these, in which colonies or states?

65 posted on 09/06/2013 4:15:16 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: ansel12

Listen.

I am a very hard core Christian Conservative.

I don’t really care what the “Left” hears, since the left is NOT LIBERTARIAN.

I DO NOT SUPPORT the Government telling anybody what they can or cannot do.

The gay agenda can only exist with the force of Government.

The abortion agenda can only exist with the force of Government.

Liberals are stupid and when they get past their last sexual experience all they can think about is their next one.

There’s a huge difference between modern Liberals and Libertarians.

BTW, I’m not fighting for anything except for the right to be left alone.

The Government has no right to FORCE me to accept gay marriage. The Government has no right to FORCE affirmative action on me, the Government has no right FORCE public education on me, the Government has no right to force ADA on me, the Government has no right to Force healthcare on me, the Government has no right to FORCE me to wear a seatbelt or a helmet, I could go on.

It is not so much about the policies but about WHO makes these laws.

Most people, when they are honest, are Libertarian.

NOT (modern) LIBERALS.

In addition, most people are Conservative libertarians which would eliminate the top down control of the Federal Government in favor of community/state decisions so people can vote with their feet.


66 posted on 09/06/2013 4:39:33 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: albie

Yes totally agree. Gay rights was first about “stay out of our bedroom”. Now it’s teaching kindergartners on up about gay sex. This is what I have a problem with- infiltrating our young children’s minds. It’s about non-tolerance of opposing opinions. The gay writer on hillbuzz talked about the motives of the LGBT movement, it is about destroying Christians and the family unit of a man and a woman.

They destroy inside and outside of churches, mock Christians, priests and nuns.

It’s about destroying Christian businesses who believe marriage is between a man and a woman.

It’s about shaming Christians in any way possible, all so they can feel good about their choice, their lifestyle, etc.


67 posted on 09/06/2013 4:44:01 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: cripplecreek

I wasn’t talking to you, boy. Besides, you didn’t answer me so you can kiss my ass.

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Cripple Creek ferry
Butting through
the overhanging trees
Make way
for the Cripple Creek ferry
The waters going down
it’s a mighty tight squeeze”

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68 posted on 09/06/2013 4:47:24 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Zeneta

Great Music thread over here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3063560/posts


69 posted on 09/06/2013 4:49:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks


70 posted on 09/06/2013 4:51:13 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Zeneta

You can try to hide behind silly language, and childish thinking, but your politics is to defeat conservative restraints against the libertarian/leftist agenda of abortion, gay marriage, gay military, gay immigration, and so on.

If you aren’t against gay marriage and abortion and gays in the military, then you are for it, unless you are truly so disinterested that you have no opinions on it, do not speak on it or think on it, and do not vote or participate in politics in any way.

How can the military not make decisions on homosexuality and gay marriage, how can immigration, federal employment not make decisions regarding homosexuality?

Your weird dreamy fantasies are a cheap excuse for opposing conservatism and abortion and the homosexual agenda.


71 posted on 09/06/2013 4:54:10 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: ansel12

He is right. The practice was quite common on the frontier from the beginning right up into the 20th Century. An example would be Wyatt Earp. He had two common law wives in his lifetime. There was no licenses or church weddings, they just lived as husband and wife. I would speculate that what we see today as common, the big church wedding was beyond the means of most in the 18th and 19th Centuries. Recently read a history of the Hatfield McCoy feud. Marriage was not done with govt. licenses or church for that matter. People just lived together and just proclaimed themselves married. As for gays(females only), they even had a name for it. When two old spinsters lived their lives together it was called a Boston Marriage in the 19th Century. They difference was that if someone did not like it, they were not forced to accept it themselves, unlike today.


72 posted on 09/06/2013 5:18:22 PM PDT by gusty
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To: ansel12

You apparently don’t understand both politics and my position or how things get done.

I oppose gay marriage.

I oppose Abortion.

I know, unlike you, that this battle is never going to be won if the Federal Government is involved from either party.

So called Republicans are too worried about the optics and the political correctness imposed on them from the media.

They are powerless.

What we have today is Statism via the democrat party or Statism in slow motion via Republicans.

I want no part of either of them, and I know that the majority of Americans are with me.


73 posted on 09/06/2013 5:55:50 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: gusty

He didn’t mention common law marriage, he mentioned shacking up until they could get married.

Common law marriage still exists and is recognized by the federal government and all 50 states, as long as it is a legal, common law marriage, if indeed Earp was legally common law married.

Marriage licenses have existed for many centuries, since the 1300s, and before that Banns, and before that other formal actions that made marriage legal, Thomas Jefferson obtained a marriage license.

Contrary to your claim, there was no gay marriage, there has never been a time when a couple, or a few people could not decide among themselves all kinds of things, but it didn’t exist outside of their imagination. Right now you can call whatever you want “marriage”, you could yesterday and ten and 20 years ago.


74 posted on 09/06/2013 5:57:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: cripplecreek
This is were libertarian DO NOT follow their own logic....so the government should not be involved in marriage. I agree.. and they were not involved in gay marriage..they issues no license they gave no privilege..then were not involved ..the correct pure libertarian point of view would have the government out of all marriage ...but the one problem is heterosexual sex produces a byproduct. .new people ..and it is a necessary byproduct for life on earth. .so government does need to address this to create a legal status..but else marriage is a religion act and government has no involvement. .
75 posted on 09/06/2013 6:00:01 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: Zeneta

I already asked you, how does the federal government not have to make a decision of defining legal marriage, that time has never existed in America.

Please don’t give me fantasies that have never applied in America.

Your way is merely support for abortion and the homosexual agenda, while mumbling some gibberish about privately opposing it, while you fight for it, like Ted Kennedy and Mitt Romney did.

Most pro-abortion politicians use your arguments.


76 posted on 09/06/2013 6:05:55 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: ansel12

Common law marriage still exists and is recognized by the federal government and all 50 states

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Not True

Common-law marriage in the United States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common-law_marriage_in_the_United_States

Common-law marriage in the United States can still be contracted in nine states (Alabama, Colorado, Kansas, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Iowa, Montana, Utah and Texas) and the District of Columbia. New Hampshire recognizes common-law marriage for purposes of probate only, and Utah recognizes common-law marriages only if they have been validated by a court or administrative order.[1]Common-law marriage can no longer be contracted in 27 states, and was never permitted in 13 states.


77 posted on 09/06/2013 6:07:18 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: ansel12

I already asked you, how does the federal government not have to make a decision of defining legal marriage, that time has never existed in America.

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Fundamentally, the issue comes down to taxes.


78 posted on 09/06/2013 6:09:45 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Zeneta

Yes, Common law marriage still exists and is recognized by the federal government and all 50 states.

You are confusing where it can be contracted at, with it being recognized, but it has to be legal, not just two people wanting to claim it.


79 posted on 09/06/2013 6:12:54 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: Zeneta
Fundamentally, the issue comes down to taxes.

No it doesn't, federal legislation regarding marriage by the founding fathers and Continental Congress and the early congresses and administrations was not about taxes, that probably didn't show up until the 20th century, and it doesn't have anything to do with your gay marriage.

80 posted on 09/06/2013 6:16:43 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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