Posted on 09/06/2013 1:28:28 PM PDT by Mozilla
Libertarian: a conservative without a moral compass.
Beck is a shallow conman, and a convert from Catholicism to Mormonism.
While the perversion is its own special brand of sickness and idolatry, the bigger picture in this obamanation is the government's twisting and debasing the language into whatever it wants, in order to control and punish whomever it wants. Beastgov took control of the language; that was the coup. Now the govenment freely brutalizes those who won't allow it to rewrite their value systems.
A loud warning was inherent in the propaganda about "What is a family?" Oh sure, as if anyone was going to argue that children of divorce and/or remarriage didn't belong to a family. Soon single mothers (who never married) were on the list (oh no, don't want to make the kids feel like societal outcasts), then the women who used sperm donors, then all manner of weird combinations and surrogates, two mommies, two daddies... the entire concept of family lost its footing.
The family base of man+woman, wife+husband having been corrupted and thoroughly debased, enter the "gay marriage" rewrite. It won't end there. It wouldn't be fair to leave out Mohammed and his 10 yo boytoy.
Homosexuals love it, they love that rinos and libertarians promote it and use it as a club to "Get R Done" for the left's agenda(s).
Libertarianism does force government to recognize the homosexual agenda at every level of government.
How can a culture protect itself against Sodom and Gomorrah when that pressure is written into all government? We and libertarians all know what will come to be in time, total acceptance.
"Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government's treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws."
destruction of the institution of marriage is their goal towards destroying society. Glenn Beck is on the wrong side.
I will never trust anything he says again
He is not a conservative.
Impossible.
Not “a” church, “the church”, or the government, or the tribal leaders, or some authority.
When it came to claiming your rights as a married person, or a widow, or child, the laws were clear and administered by authority, and did not rely on whatever you had personally decided was a legal marriage.
This moral ambiguity is why Libertarianism is evil.
Pope Leo XIII warned about the dangers of state involvement 130 years ago:
“Now, since the family and human society at large spring from marriage, these men will on no account allow matrimony to be the subject of the jurisdiction of the Church. Nay, they endeavor to deprive it of all holiness, and so bring it within the contracted sphere of those rights which, having been instituted by man, are ruled and administered by the civil jurisprudence of the community. Wherefore it necessarily follows that they attribute all power over marriage to civil rulers, and allow none whatever to the Church; and, when the Church exercises any such power, they think that she acts either by favor of the civil authority or to its injury. Now is the time, they say, for the heads of the State to vindicate their rights unflinchingly, and to do their best to settle all that relates to marriage according as to them seems good.”
That Leo XIII, what a raging pro-’gay marriage’ libertarian liberal. Bottom line is that the modern state’s definition of marriage is simply whatever judges, pols, or the voting majority thinks it is at any one time, and that’s all it ever can be. And if folks are conditioned to think the state defines marriage, then I reckon there must be a lot of folks that think ‘gay marriage’ is possible just because the state says it is possible.
FReegards
But maybe he just had unusually strong willpower.
Libertarianism is also a utopian philosophy like socialism, a lot like socialism.
ROTFL, yeah, that is real honesty, Ted Kennedy honesty (I'm personally opposed but...).
What form does that take in politics? It means FIGHTING AGAINST CONSERVATISM TO END BARRIERS TO GAY MARRIAGE, AND ABORTION, ETC.
When the left hears your political agenda, they jump with joy and cry, oh please don't throw me into that briar patch good buddy.
In my genealogy research I’m finding a lot of ancestors on the frontier who lived together as husband and wife for years before a traveling minister would come along and marry them. It looks like government started getting involved as land disputes arose after the death of a spouse.
Beck, like obama and John Kerry supports something one day and the next day is against it. About the only thing the Beck crew is consistent doing is laughing like hyenas.
State involvement can be a good thing. From a just state. But in the hands of statists and homosexualists, it becomes a way to punish and to keep punishing those they know who will never accept state approved impossibilities like ‘gay marriage.’ Using the power of the state to punish is what the whole ‘gay marriage’ fight is all about.
Freegards
I haven’t heard that tie in before. You are probably spot on, but would you mind explaining how Libertarianism is a utopian philosophy like socialism?
Libertarianism describes an idealized world where everyone lives happily ever after. A libertarian world where children are free to experience sex and drugs (they have the same rights as adults to libertarians, they pretend this isn’t true unless they are honest, I have had debates before and they will eventually come right out and say that kiddie porn is art and should be decriminalized) at their hearts content because for some reason parents have lost the ability to instill good values.
Those who try to instill contrary values will have to be punished, of course. If someone comes along and think homosexuality is bad, they must be punished. Since there is no “state” in libertarianism the punishment will come by the mob. First they will shun you, then they will ostracise you and stop letting you into their shops. Sooner or later, of course, you will have to be dealt with permanently. You are a destabalizing influence.
it is their own form of political correctness and they are just as hostile to Christian morality as the homosexual radicals and far left.
It’s nearly identical to leftism except for - supposedly - the economic component. I say supposedly because if you actually listen to their philosophy they will quickly go into marxian territory once they begin to amass any real influence. That people own the product of their labor, not their employer. It is inevitable that libertarianism will take that turn, the libertarianism philosophy pretty much demands it.
Taken as a whole the libertarian philosophy cannot possibly lead to a civilized society. Civilization requires civilized people and libertarians would reject the very notion that people should be civilized. Instead they are free to do as they please without restraint. Unless they are moral people, then they need to be punished.
You cannot possibly make a workable civilization from libertarianism, not any more than you can make a civilized society from communism, atheism, “liberalism” or anything else that rejects the very idea of morality.
Yes
And I am also personally and flatly opposed to gay marriage, abortion, etc..
Politically, it is a question of who decides.
Is it the Government or the people ?
And when the left hears my position they know they don’t have the support of the people and that is why they jump for joy and get in bed with the Government.
"Lot's" of ancestors on the frontier with no access to a minister or official or who could post a Bann on a church door or obtain a license, that is a little hard to believe that you would have lot's of them.
What years were these, in which colonies or states?
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