Posted on 09/06/2013 1:28:28 PM PDT by Mozilla
Thanks. You have summed up exactly why I despise Libertarians, and why I think they are more dangerous than the dems and the commies.
Indeed, Glenn Beck, Rand Paul, Libertarians in general, are amoral. In the name of their amoral libertine ideology, let the world descend into a homosexual same sex marriage cesspool, they could care less.
Boy, do I agree. Hopefully there aren’t enough people willing to believe the Libertarians are conservative, but its a really scary time.
Beck came out for this for Libertarian reasons some time ago but I didn’t think it was more than sort of a one shot deal and influence by S.E. Cupp. I haven’t heard Beck since make a big deal out of this and listen to him fairly often. I thought Beck was misled about this or maybe just did it as a sort of stunt.
If one is interested, I think the National Review did an article titled something like “Why Beck is wrong”, all this is from at least 6 months ago.
I am just shocked at how a man who claims to support religion so much could side with the left on Gay marriage. His knowledge of theology is lacking. Glenn has become real confusing to understand sometimes.
Rand Paul is against abortion and I thought gay marriage. I’d be careful in labels in regards to Paul. He has said some negative things about Libertarians like “Libertarians are people who want to walk around naked smoking pot”.
(Pay no attention to the fact that we are on the verge of WWIII.....let's worry about something else........)
No, Paul has sponsored very pro-life legislation, the life begins at conception amendment and I’ve seen no indication he’s for same-sex marriage either.
http://nationalprolifealliance.com/tpfh_petition.aspx?pid=1130
Actually, Beck stated as much already last year. I remember it vividly, because I turned off his program right then and there, and I haven’t listened to him since.
Anyone who equates two homos as being the same as a husband-and-wife, and sees nothing wrong in such societal and cultural deviancy, is someone who loses all stock with me, on ALL issues, across the board.
I know he’s pro-life, Christian, but wouldnt impose many of his religious beliefs(social issues) on the many of us, but on many of the other social issues(abortion aside) he’d flush us down the drain.
I would love to have a Russian cultural climate on this issue here in the US, but we don’t.
We have radical homosexual lobbyists who have won the day in the psychiatric community and in the government and courtrooms. The ‘millennials’ have been marshaled as the homosexual army for the most part, their social stigmatizing of anyone with religious values killing any free speech.
We’re not going to re-pass DOMA, and we’re not going to get the corrupt court to reverse themselves. At least... not until that inevitable collapse when all hell breaks loose. Then all bets are off, and we can use whatever means available to swing the pendulum back our way.
Right now, the libertarian standpoint may be the best way to defend our right to speak freely under the law against perversion and filth, operate our businesses how we wish, etc. until such a time to change things occurs.
I don’t have much respect for Glenn Beck. He peddles a lot of BS hype as far as I’m concerned, and he has employed in his staff not just libertarians but homosexualists.
This being said, I understand the legitimate position of libertarians. If you listen to someone who is far right fringe like Alex Jones who is way more libertarian than Beck, you can tell he dislikes homosexuals and sees it as a government induced confusion. Ron Paul has said similar things.
Homosexuals do not like the libertarian view any more than the conservative view, because it does not force churches and such to recognize the marriage, in fact, true libertarianism doesn’t even have ANYONE recognize the marriage unless they want to. What’s more, libertarians will say that restaurants, taxi companies etc can refuse service to homos.
With all this in mind, I have a libertarian view on the subject short-term goals in mind. I despise the homo agenda and their sham marriages, and insult to the Creator, but the libertarian view best suits the agenda going forward, with a pure conservative view coming into play when the ‘age of tolerance’ comes to an end in the collapse of Western Civilization.
Cupp is a tapeworm on the right. She infects, and then people think she’s some kind of intellectual.
Glenn Beck and Mormonism:
Mormonism has already officially scuttled Mormon doctrine before in accomodating itself to the culture. Not saying that scuttling plural marriage was right. But the Mormon Church structure allows their leader to scuttle any Mormon doctrine and contradict it, because God has told him so. Expect it again.
Especially when it comes to plural marriage.
If you are correct, I’d feel much better about him. I seem to remember, however, him mouthing the familiar libertarian mantra not too long ago, we should not let “what people do in their bedrooms or their private lives” concern us. A chip off the old block it appears.
Unfortunately, the government must have a role in marriage, since child custody disputes must be adjudicated by the government. Try to imagine adjudicating such disputes without marriage records.
Moreover, marriage, i.e., a lifetime commitment between a man and woman for their mutual benefit, and the begetting and raising of children, is a natural institution. Families are the building blocks of society, and the State has a natural obliglation to regulate and foster them.
Many Christians mistakenly believe that marriage is a purely religious institution. It is not. But Christian marriage and natural marriage are different. Christian marriage can be sacramental, and its purpose is more noble than natural marriage. A Christian marriage is a lifetime commitment between a man and woman for the purpose of each attaining heaven, and the begetting and raising of children for the same purpose.
To be an Honest Libertarian, you don’t either support or condemn gay marriage, drug use, abortion etc..
You support taking those positions out of the hands of Government and let the people and States decide.
To be an Honest Communist/Socialist/Progressive, you must support the idea that people are too stupid to make their own decisions and the Government needs to decide for them.
To be an Honest Conservative, you need to support what true libertarians support but have faith that our fellow man is wise enough to erect social guardrails.
Well said. This is why I expect an eventual reversion. He seems to be very sincere in his pursuit of the truth, at least with regard to history and public policy. Unfortunately, he apparently hasn't devoted as much effort to studying theology. I expect that he will, eventually.
The FedGov is involved in plenty of things the Constitution doesn’t provide for. So this alone is a reason to support something?
Gov’t should not be involved in health care. So Mr. Beck supports obamacare?
Gov’t should not be involved in taking from one American to give to another American (or foreigner). So Mr. Beck supports redistribution of wealth?
Strawman argument methinks. GB should just admit he doesn’t have a problem with homosexuals, their agenda, their diseases, raping of youngsters, etc.
I thought GB was cut from a different cloth. I stand corrected.
That no surprise. It’s the libertine/libertarian thing.
That is one of the great, stupid, and inaccurate remarks.
Government and or a controlling authority has always been involved in marriage.
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