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VANITY: Why I bought Obamacare (for my wife...I shall still be paying a fine for myself)
the_boy_who_got_lost

Posted on 12/23/2013 2:23:28 PM PST by the_boy_who_got_lost

State: Kentucky Plan: Platinum Premium: $239.63 Max Out of Pocket: $1,500 Deductible: $500

Why: She's pregnant and the total bill (Hospital+Midwife) will be around $8,000 presuming no complications. This is based on what the hospitals have told us. My sister-in-law just had a baby and they ended up paying over $9,000.

Total cost to us: 239.63*12+1500 = $4,375.56 Savings: $3624.44 (Or more.)

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I am aware we need to watch out for the things that insurance doesn't cover however, having this insurance makes me feel monetarily less responsible. There have been several things that we have opted against because we felt they were not necessary, I.e a second ultrasound. Hey, if someone else is paying for it why not get it? We could potentially run up the bill by several thousand dollars if we wanted.

What if everyone did this? I have a feeling many more people will take advantage of the Obamacare rules as I am. IE buying insurance after my wife is pregnant knowing that I will save money.

Before you could buy insurance that covered pregnancy but (logically) it kicked in 9 or 10 months after you purchased you plan.

On one hand I feel guilty, I am shirking my responsibility and using the system at the cost of other tax payers. Under the old system I wouldn't feel this way because there was no clear way to take advantage of insurance. I would be paying for insurance at least 9 months before my wife got pregnant. Also I halfway feel I've sold out on my beliefs to save a few thousand dollars.

On the other hand I do not feel guilty because I pay a lot in taxes, and I will be paying a $1,000 fine at the end of the year for not buying insurance for myself. Obama and insurance companies knew people were going to be doing this (higher rates are partly due to this) and they may as well see the results of everyone taking advantage of the system at every turn.

This is no longer insurance. Unless I see a valid need or a monetary advantage for buying insurance next year my wife and I will pay the fine.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: insurance; obamacare; supportaca; vanity
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Why I bought the most cost effective plan for my wife and how the new rules allow me to take advantage of the system saving myself ~$3624.44.
1 posted on 12/23/2013 2:23:28 PM PST by the_boy_who_got_lost
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost
You do realize that they can change the rules anytime they want?
2 posted on 12/23/2013 2:24:39 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You mean as Obama has been doing? Yep! But if they do then I’m going to cancel my plan...whatever it takes to do that. I’m not going to pay for something that doesn’t benefit me.


3 posted on 12/23/2013 2:28:16 PM PST by the_boy_who_got_lost (Real men scare liberals)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

Nope, not doing it. Obamao can kiss my white azz.


4 posted on 12/23/2013 2:30:43 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

You’re behaving rationally. That’s what everyone will do and this is why the system is doomed.

Let’s say that you get diagnosed with diabetes next month. Of course you’ll buy insurance for yourself vs paying the fine.

Ultimately we all do what’s in our best interest. And we justify it with rationalizations. It’s called Human Nature.


5 posted on 12/23/2013 2:34:12 PM PST by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

Do you get a subsidy? Why would you buy obamacare if you don’t get a subsidy. Why not just get private insurance?


6 posted on 12/23/2013 2:42:10 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost
$239 per month seems quite reasonable for one person. Did you get a subsidy to lower your cost to that amount, or is $239 the list price?
7 posted on 12/23/2013 2:42:40 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

$9,000 for having a baby,wonder where those pregnant illegal aliens get that kind of money?


8 posted on 12/23/2013 2:43:46 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: Las Vegas Ron

:) Excellent. I’ve always liked this one, too: “And I want to say one more thing, in the spirit of the Irish people..”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPfrtngwzjY


9 posted on 12/23/2013 2:45:20 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

How did she get such low premiums and a $500 deductible?

You could pay 12 months at $240 = $2880. If you paid the fine you’ll only be $1,880 ahead. I’d pay the $1880 and be covered.


10 posted on 12/23/2013 2:45:28 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

Hope you have LifeLock.


11 posted on 12/23/2013 2:45:58 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

So that’s where my taxes are going.


12 posted on 12/23/2013 2:46:24 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

ANYONE who does not currently have health insurance and is expecting to have medical expenses in 2014 that exceed the Obamacare premiums SHOULD buy an Obamacare policy for 2014. Anyone who has an Obamacare policy should run up as much medical expense as possible—it’s for the good of the Republic that we assist in its death spiral.

On the other hand, anyone who is healthy and not expected to have significant expenses, should not help out Obamacare by enrolling. Such acts of non-enrollment by the healthy and/or young also will help assist in Obamacare entering its death spiral quickly.

Obamacare running massive cost overruns in 2014 will insure that participating insurers will not make a profit plus will be REQUIRED to have substantial premium increases and/or coverage/benefit decreases in 2015. Those higher premiums and crappier coverage in 2015 will further promote the death spiral and hasten the death of the monstrosity of Obamacare.


13 posted on 12/23/2013 2:46:50 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: Marie
Let’s say that you get diagnosed with diabetes next month. Of course you’ll buy insurance for yourself vs paying the fine.

You can only buy Obamacare insurance plans during the open enrollment period. This year, it ran from October through March. Next year (and going forward), it will run from October through December, with coverage beginning in January. So, let's say you get diagnosed with diabetes in January - you'd have to wait a full year for coverage to kick in.

14 posted on 12/23/2013 2:50:09 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

You want to make sure that baby is covered. My new born granddaughter was in the hospital for a month because of an infection. The bill was out of sight. My daughter had insurance from work that covered everyone.


15 posted on 12/23/2013 2:50:42 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: COBOL2Java

My thoughts EXACTLY!!


16 posted on 12/23/2013 3:12:38 PM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

Sign up for the Christian health sharing ministries, avoid the fines, and not have a cent go to funding abortions or sex changes or other folks’ risky personal behaviors they will not give up.


17 posted on 12/23/2013 3:12:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: trisham; doug from upland
Ha, I love it!!

As an aside, I hardly see Doug from Upland around here anymore.....he's one of the best! Merry Christmas to you!!

18 posted on 12/23/2013 3:14:59 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; doug from upland

Merry Christmas to you too!


19 posted on 12/23/2013 3:23:57 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

Is the $9000 the suggested list price, or what the hospital will actually gladly accept?

I had some tests at UPMC last year, the list price was $13k, they gladly accepted less than 2000 from the insurance company.

That’s the real question mark, the real problem with medical costs, the list prices are in fantasy land.

I have the bill from when I was born at Allegheny General, it cost my dad $154- they saved the receipt in case they wanted to bring me back (or so they said). There certainly has been a lot of inflation since 1956, but items that cost a buck and a half then aren’t $90 today


20 posted on 12/23/2013 3:28:58 PM PST by I_Like_Spam
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