Posted on 07/05/2014 11:06:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
It's been clear for some time that the iPad has taken the enterprise by storm as employees tote it to work and companies buy fleets of them. But Apple's PC, the Mac, has never been as dominant in the workplace, until now, according to new research from long-time Microsoft rival, VMware.
VMware queried 376 IT professionals and found that they are increasingly being asked to buy and/or support Macs in the enterprise by employees who want Macs, not Windows machines.
"Microsoft Windows has dominated enterprise desktops for close to three decades but it appears its reign is coming to an end. As BYOPC ["Bring Your Own PC"] and BYOD [Bring Your Own Device] continue to transform the enterprise, Macs have become a popular and preferred option compared to Windows PCs," says Erik Frieberg, VP of Marketing, End-User Computing, VMware, in the report.
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
Strike a very sensitive nerve?
Let me clue you in on something. IT exists solely to support a business. When you have 16,000 users standardization is key. Yet because you are a fanboy, we should bow down to your needs, well, because???
IT has it’s share of problems, too. I used to get staff who wanted the latest and greatest whatever, never mind the business need, they wanted it. I tell everyone of these folks that want to put a business on the bleeding edge of technology to come back with a cost benefit analysis. Not one has.
If there was a MAC that did something that a PC didn’t and was a business need, we’d be all over it.
I’ve been in this business for over twenty years and the closest we had to a zero day exploit was Code Red and MS fixed it in a day I recall.
So, ever hear of heartbleed? No device attached to the Internet is safe, has a Mac (satisfied how I spelled it, wouldn’t want to get tears in your MAC keyboard) every had an exploit and before you smugly answer no, yes it has.
You aren’t stupid. You just don’t know.
One only needs browse this thread to see that in spades. How dare you ask the IT dept. to actually SUPPORT something they don't like? Don't you know how scary it is outside the entrenched comfort zone? They might actually need to know something beyond MS.
Better not question them. Who knows what retributive blackmail they have on you, should you actually need them to, you know, do their job and provide tech support.
Yeah, it’s a pretty big deal when an outfit like Costco caves, since they’ve always pretty much been like Best Buy, i.e., they only offer the latest version of trash from Microsoft and no other alternative.
So you deny that Apple is run by a gay due? How gay is this? At least Bill Gates never slanted his advertising towards gays and Obama voters
So support the business. Are you incapable of networking Windows, Windows Server, OS X, OS X Server and Linux in the same environment? Your business users must love you.
You answer your own question: IT charges.
Look at how much of the rabid opposition are people in IT that make their daily bread off of keeping MS patched and virus protected.
No they are not "sales numbers". . . those were Gartner's and IDC's pre-announcement guesstimates—published on April 9, 2014—which do not include any data from Apple's online store which claimed doom and gloom for Apple, while making rosy claims for the PC industry which pays their freight. These "guesstimates" have never been accurate and are based on observations of what their employees claim to see being sold at brick-and-mortar stores. Apple sells approximately 55% of all Macs in the USA.
Your post implied the data you were providing was the TOTAL number of Macs sold. . . not just one sector. . . and that that data was preliminary.. Nor did you provide your source.
Another error in Gartner's and IDC claims is that they both claim the Mac accounts for 10% of Apple's bottom line; actual figures from Apple show 12%.
Gartner projected an increase of 2.1% Mac sales resulting in a DROP a negative 1.7% YoY drop in market share growth, while IDC was more enthusiastic with a 0.6% decline in Mac sales and a 4.4% reduction in Mac market share growth in the US. They were BOTH way off the mark; Macs actually had about an 6% jump in US sales. . . and a jump in market share.
The ONLY Apple product seeing a YoY reduction in shipping was the iPad, which actually had a slight increase in sales but a drop in shipped numbers due to inventory adjustments.
Additionally, the article you cited reported the delta—the rate of market share change—as the Mac's market share. . . the first Calendar Quarter 2014 was 10.8% according to Gartner's error ridden guesstimate (even their market share figures were based on total PC sales with a plus or minus 3 million higher or lower guess using the maximum to get their percentages!), when it actually was a little over 12% using the accurate numbers.
Gartner and IDC pull their guesses out of thin air. The actual figures are published by Apple only days later in their Financial filings and report to Stockholders, on April 23, 2014. Apple makes THEIR numbers public.
They do. Sure, have four different manufacturers for servers, that would be wonderful to support. Four different patch deployments, four different build CDs, and four different ways for a server to blow up. Pass. I’ll stick to one manufacturer and two O/S (Linux) unless there’s a compelling business reason, no sale. I could care less how my users think of me. All I care about is uptime.
You have yet to present a business case for using Apples’ products, just emotion.
Better not question them. Who knows what retributive blackmail they have on you, should you actually need them to, you know, do their job and provide tech support.
This level of cluelessness is awesome. So some user wants to use a Mac and we're supposed to bend over for him, get a clue. Since you obviously don't have a clue, IT does more than support servers and users, there's the network itself, there's ensuring that intrusion detection is working, there's disaster recovery tests and on and on. Supporting a Mac would be child's play but why when THERE IS NO BUSINESS CASE, get that through your fanboy head.
We read the firewall logs, I would keep that in mind if I was you.
My reply is not FUD. . . it provided the correct information. I posted to you because the comment was originally posted to you, supposedly in an attempt to "inform you," but DennisW frequently deliberately and snidely misinforms with his FUD in this manner. I included you as a courtesy.
My mind is closed? I’ve put several companies on the Internet, had thousands of users and one data center had over 400 servers and another had a mainframe and 200 servers to support along with a backup data center that mirrored the one in Sacramento. I’ve been doing this a long time and to get a lecture from someone who probably has one Mac is a joke. Let me see you walk in my shoes, I can damn well walk in yours.
I’d like some clarification on the Fortune 500 who have Macs. I’m don’t think they would up and change their data centers to run Macs; I doubt they did a forklift upgrade and what about apps and especially custom apps? So what is it, they have one Mac in the art department?
Yeah, I’ll get right on that, you posted about the hate, you own it; I’m not doing your search, or is it that there isn’t any?
Great point!
Your reply including me was uncalled for IMO. I'm smart enough to determine what's b.s. on here and what isn't without others (including yours) help.
Let it go already, sheesh. You don't have to be Apple's information police here on FR. In the future, I'd appreciate the courtesy of your leaving me out of your tit-for-tat exchanges here on FR. I don't need you to "inform" me. I'm more than capable of that myself TYVM.
Where did I comment on VMWare on this thread? (Looking back ... not seeing anything ...) VMWare is nothing more than a a hypervisor to let any Windows/Linux run on Intel. The hypervisor space that VMWare lives in is starting to be taken over by Microsoft and RedHat for example. We're a huge VMWare shop, but even we're moving our Windows Server platform over to Microsoft's hypervisor to save on licensing costs of VMWare. The bank I work for (in the top 10) is also using VMWare and Puppet to build and orchestrate our hybrid cloud environment. We've recently completed a "bake off" of Cloud vendors and went with VCE. Can't wait for that hardware to get in, this is gonna be a whole lotta fun!
Apple is not replacing Windows. The new tablets and smart phones are being used in addition to Windows machines.
Agree. I have an iPad & iPad mini that I use for some features @ work. Web based apps using Dynamic HTML/5 work well on it, as does the email client I use to synchronize my work email and calendar on my iPad. I'm typically running from meeting to meeting, and often have one meeting schedule on top of another so I need my email mobile with me to reconcile which meeting I really need to be in. I also have my iPad mini in a keyboard case so I can take notes during meetings and send them to myself via email or on a SharePoint site that I have at work. I also use my iPad to view Presentations, PDF's and display then on large projectors/widi devices during meetings. It's far faster to do these types of tasks on my iPad than it is carrying around a laptop. I'm also the person in our organization (global Bank) who started the iPad and then Droid "craze" at our Bank, giving users the option to access apps and get their email on their own personal devices. Gotta love innovation.
I have a Glock, but that doesn’t mean I threw away my Colt 1911 (Series 70). The same is true for computers. We just have several instead of one. Each tool has it’s own strengths and weaknesses.
Love your analogy! Speaks to two of the things near and dear to my heart --- weapons and computers!
You have a great day, and thanks for your post.
I work in a very diverse IT ecosystem. We have complex networks in a multi-tenant environment. My question was can you network all of these OS's and administer them, which apparently you cannot.
2) Ooh burn. Son, I've been in computers before you even knew of the Internet, I've supported DOS, Netware, Windows NT, Linux, Sun Sparc, HP UX, T1, Frame Relay, MPLS, ISDN, VOIP multiple routing protocols over multiple sites so I'm pretty sure I can support whatever comes down the pike.
...work in a very diverse IT ecosystem. We have complex networks in a multi-tenant environment.
What does that word salad even mean, is it a way of puffing up your credentials? You know, a Mac hooked up to Netgear switch doesn't sound as good does it?
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