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In the quantum world, the future affects the past: Hindsight and foresight together...
Science Daily ^ | 2/9/15

Posted on 02/09/2015 1:48:40 PM PST by LibWhacker

Summary: In the quantum world, the future predicts the past. Playing a guessing game with a superconducting circuit called a qubit, a physicist has discovered a way to narrow the odds of correctly guessing the state of a two-state system. By combining information about the qubit's evolution after a target time with information about its evolution up to that time, the lab was able to narrow the odds from 50-50 to 90-10.

We're so used to murder mysteries that we don't even notice how mystery authors play with time. Typically the murder occurs well before the midpoint of the book, but there is an information blackout at that point and the reader learns what happened then only on the last page.

If the last page were ripped out of the book, physicist Kater Murch, PhD, said, would the reader be better off guessing what happened by reading only up to the fatal incident or by reading the entire book?

The answer, so obvious in the case of the murder mystery, is less so in world of quantum mechanics, where indeterminacy is fundamental rather than contrived for our reading pleasure.

Even if you know everything quantum mechanics can tell you about a quantum particle, said Murch, an assistant professor of physics in Arts & Sciences at Washington University in St. Louis, you cannot predict with certainty the outcome of a simple experiment to measure its state. All quantum mechanics can offer are statistical probabilities for the possible results.

The orthodox view is that this indeterminacy is not a defect of the theory, but rather a fact of nature. The particle's state is not merely unknown, but truly undefined before it is measured. The act of measurement itself that forces the particle to collapse to a definite state.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: quantum; qubit; relativity; symmetry; time
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Full Title: In the quantum world, the future affects the past: Hindsight and foresight together more accurately 'predict' a quantum system’s state

In short, the big shocker in this paper: "in the quantum world time runs both backward and forward whereas in the classical world it only runs forward."

1 posted on 02/09/2015 1:48:40 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

I might cite the Heisenberg Principle.

Or I might not.


2 posted on 02/09/2015 1:53:06 PM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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To: LibWhacker

I knew you were going to post that...


3 posted on 02/09/2015 1:53:51 PM PST by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: LibWhacker
In the quantum world, the future predicts the past.

In a Newtonian world, hindsight is 20/20.

4 posted on 02/09/2015 1:55:49 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: LibWhacker

Where’s that darn cat?


5 posted on 02/09/2015 1:58:44 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: LibWhacker

Not to sound like a know-it-all, but the future affecting the past on a quantum level is not only decades-old theory, but there are existing machines that work on this principle.

Here’s a patent application I wrote on such a device: http://www.google.com/patents/US8068740


6 posted on 02/09/2015 1:58:50 PM PST by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: LibWhacker

7 posted on 02/09/2015 2:00:15 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: LibWhacker

“The answer, so obvious in the case of the murder mystery...”

Sheesh....I’m not even sure about the answer to this!


8 posted on 02/09/2015 2:00:34 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: freedumb2003

Say my name.


9 posted on 02/09/2015 2:02:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and there is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: Smedley

Impressive!


10 posted on 02/09/2015 2:02:43 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Betelgeuse?


11 posted on 02/09/2015 2:05:38 PM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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To: LibWhacker

Maybe on the quantum level, there is no such thing as ‘time’.


12 posted on 02/09/2015 2:06:10 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: LibWhacker

Watch Master Ken defeat the “speed of light” limit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hMoA7Q75cg

Begin at about 4:20 if you are particularly impatient.


13 posted on 02/09/2015 2:13:12 PM PST by Zuse (I am disrupted! I am offended! I am insulted! I am outraged!)
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To: freedumb2003

14 posted on 02/09/2015 2:16:51 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and there is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: freedumb2003

I’m not so certain about that. Or maybe I am.


15 posted on 02/09/2015 2:24:31 PM PST by rightwingcrazy (:>@)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ah.

I never really watched that show. I tried to watch from the beginning and after 2 episodes I was bored to tears and gave up.

So I don’t quite get it, sorry :(


16 posted on 02/09/2015 2:32:56 PM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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To: colorado tanker

Turned into a Mog — half man and half dog.

Now he’s his own best friend.


17 posted on 02/09/2015 2:36:10 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: LibWhacker

Obviously false.
(Effect follows cause)


18 posted on 02/09/2015 2:38:12 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: LibWhacker

“It’s not clear why in the real world, the world made up of many particles, time only goes forward and entropy always increases,” Murch said. “But many people are working on that problem and I expect it will be solved in a few years,” he said.

if you can ask that question, you’re completely in the dark.


19 posted on 02/09/2015 2:40:42 PM PST by dadfly
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To: LibWhacker

can anything we do today cause someone else to win the 2008 and 2012 elections?


20 posted on 02/09/2015 2:46:58 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one.)
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