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Why Apple Watch isn't the most advanced timepiece
cnbc ^ | 4-25-2015 | Eric Rosenbaum

Posted on 04/25/2015 1:53:58 PM PDT by 867V309

Taking on Apple is dangerous business. You run the risk of not only having another U2 album automatically loaded into your iTunes account as a Godfather-like sample of what Apple can do to you, but getting the hordes of Apple fan boys and fan girls mad at you.

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To: Grampa Dave

That is an excellent watch and the one I wear. Found out this winter (in western pa) I needed to supplement the light to charge it. Just did not have the sunlight.


41 posted on 04/25/2015 7:11:08 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Amendment10
I think that Apple learns from its mistakes.

Apple learns from other companies' technology, and then copies.

Apple's R&D consists of waiting for others to create new technology, and then, copying and making slight improvements, and patenting those slight improvements, and then charging an arm and a leg for those improvements in their own devices.

Why spend huge money on R&D when you can wait for what others do, and then steal those ideas and innovations?
42 posted on 04/25/2015 7:15:11 PM PDT by adorno (a)
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To: dhs12345
Let’s hope so. I have six ipods and one iPad that are useless to me. A waste of hundreds of dollars. Then again that is the business model for Apple.

Every one of those can have their batteries replaced fairly inexpensively. There are usually services that will do it for you. Check out a local yellow page app. Apple's business model is not to sell you new batteries, or new models because the batteries fail. It is to upgrade the speed and functionality to make it a desirable upgrade so you want to buy a new one and sell or hand down your old one.

iPod, iPad, iPhone battery replacements: most are $15.99

43 posted on 04/25/2015 9:28:23 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: 867V309

Bet it’s the most profitable timepiece in history.


44 posted on 04/25/2015 9:50:49 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: adorno
Apple's R&D consists of waiting for others to create new technology, and then, copying and making slight improvements, and patenting those slight improvements, and then charging an arm and a leg for those improvements in their own devices.

Oh, yes, a company that spends over $6.4 BILLION in research & Development last year does no research and development. Right, Sure, Adorno. If you believe that, I have a very nice bridge in Brooklyn for sale. . .

45 posted on 04/25/2015 9:56:50 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: 867V309

I hate to say it, and I’m a guy who has multiple iPhones, several Macs and a brand new Macbook Air, but the Apple Watch is at this point just a celebration of rampant consumerism.

What really got me was a black stainless steel Apple watch for $1100. Seriously, that is absurd. The basic Macbook Pro is $1099, and it will be useful for many more years than a first-generation Apple watch.


46 posted on 04/25/2015 10:07:54 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Red_Devil 232
I will take a watch with an hour and minute hand over digital any time.

Do you have any idea what an Apple Watch looks like or do you just show up on these threads to make fun of the idiots that use Apple products?



47 posted on 04/25/2015 10:53:14 PM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: Swordmaker
Under $15? If you follow the official Apple approved method, it costs you $79 plus $6.95 shipping to exchange your dead phone for a refurbished one.

iPhone Repair - Battery and Power Now, it may cost YOU $15 to buy a battery on FleaBay and crack into your phone and replace it yourself, but if you screw up it's on you.

I love my iPhone but Apple has not learned from their past mistakes. I've cracked into my son's iPod Touches to replace batteries and broken screens, because if I failed they were toast anyway, but I'm not going to do it to my iPhone 5c.

48 posted on 04/26/2015 3:49:11 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Swordmaker

Taptic notifications? Really?!? That is a nuisance, and most people would rather do without it if they can turn it off. If that’s the best that Apple can do, then I’d suggest that they reinvent the pet rock. But, do you think Apple invented the tech behind taptic notifications?

Variable pressure touch screen? Did Apple invent it, or did they borrow the tech to include in their devices? The R&D for the tech was not done by Apple.

Scrolling crown? Big EFFING deal!

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-digital-crown-on-the-apple-watch-2015-3

Sharing heart beats? Really, dude? Is that tech worthy of patenting, or is it something that could be easily duplicated by any company? Sharing of data is not something new, although it might be new to you.

Sending graphics to smartphones? Again, who would read graphics on a microscopic screen? That’s a waste of R&D funds, if they even did the R&D.

NFC payment have been done by other smartphones, way before Apple even decide to venture into the tech. Try to catch up.

NFC might be new to Apple, but it’s capabilities have been known by other companies and even used by them, before Apple. Apple might be better at marketing old tech, but they’re not good at doing the R&D for that tech. Apple just implements tech, and doesn’t really produce much new tech.

Apple is still behind in R&D spending, and what they produce, is not worth the money they do spend. So, Apple ends up ‘borrowing’ tech from all the others.

Apple: the biggest thief of innovations on the planet.


49 posted on 04/26/2015 6:01:59 AM PDT by adorno (a)
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To: Grampa Dave

Right before I got on the plane in San Francisco my father gave me a Rolex Submariner a 1921 silver dollar and his old Shrade pocket knife, that was February 2nd 1970. That watch survived one tour in Vietnam, 5 1/2 years with the Sheriff’s Dept and is going on 4 decades in the oil fields of West TX. I’ve changed bands once because the Jubilee band stretched and got loose, while they replaced the band I also had them clean it and give it the once over. It’s sitting on my left wrist right now and will still lose about 5 minutes every month. The silver dollar rides in my right front pocket and sadly the old Shrade lies somewhere in the A Shau valley lost during Operation Texas Star.


50 posted on 04/26/2015 6:12:54 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: Swordmaker

>>The 2010 Sony Smartwatch was merely a bluetooth display for an Android phone.<<

A watch connected to a phone.

THAT was the innovation. Everything after that is just tinkering.

Nothing new here — just a slightly better mousetrap.


51 posted on 04/26/2015 8:57:52 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Cruznial is a mental disorder that effects the brain of liberals where they deny he is" electable.")
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To: Ronin
I do not like anything on my hands.

How about...

?

52 posted on 04/26/2015 9:03:01 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Cruznial is a mental disorder that effects the brain of liberals where they deny he is" electable.")
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To: Dusty Road

One of my Navy CO’s had been a submariner and he had one of those Rolex watches. It worked great.

I have my dad’s Shrade Pocket Knife and his birth year Silver Dollar which my wife and I gave him.


53 posted on 04/26/2015 10:05:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will Sisi, Bibi, King Abdullah & ?, take out Isis in our White House, AG Dept, CIA, & State?)
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To: PA Engineer

Out here in Wino Country during late Dec to early march, we can go days/weeks without seeing the sun.

I guess that it gets enough sunlight to keep it working. So far I haven’t to jump start it. :)


54 posted on 04/26/2015 10:09:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will Sisi, Bibi, King Abdullah & ?, take out Isis in our White House, AG Dept, CIA, & State?)
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To: spokeshave

RE: turbillion

I had to look that up. There is a really interesting article on Wikipedia about it. I love mechanical watches. I recently watched some youtube vids about some insanely expensive hand-crafted watches. Truly amazing. I’m considering upgrading to a newer mechanical, or possibly one that is just new to me. I need to do a lot more research, as it won’t exactly be pocket change for me.


55 posted on 04/26/2015 10:49:43 AM PDT by zeugma ( The Clintons Could Find a Loophole in a Stop Sign)
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To: Swordmaker

Not at the time. And it can be pricy too. We just bought new ipods until we figured out the game.


56 posted on 04/26/2015 12:17:41 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Yo-Yo
iPhone Repair - Battery and Power Now, it may cost YOU $15 to buy a battery on FleaBay and crack into your phone and replace it yourself, but if you screw up it's on you.

There are places locally that will do it for that price. . . battery included.

57 posted on 04/26/2015 4:39:27 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: freedumb2003
THAT was the innovation. Everything after that is just tinkering.

That is not the innovation. They've had phone connected watches before, with wires. . . and even bluetooth for voice communication. It was just a step up to display sharing. It was NOT a smartwatch. You do not have a clue if you think a device that can show a screen to one that completely interact with one and also act independently.

58 posted on 04/26/2015 4:47:13 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: adorno
Taptic notifications? Really?!? That is a nuisance, and most people would rather do without it if they can turn it off. If that’s the best that Apple can do, then I’d suggest that they reinvent the pet rock. But, do you think Apple invented the tech behind taptic notifications?

You have no evidence of that at all. NO Smart watch is doing it. . . so you just made that up from your rear end. They invented the means of placing Taptic small enough to fit in a watch sized device. You are grasping at straws, adorno. There is a difference than having it in a large device and in a very small device.

Variable pressure touch screen? Did Apple invent it, or did they borrow the tech to include in their devices? The R&D for the tech was not done by Apple.

Yes, they invented it. They have the patents on it. You don't even know what you are talking about and you attack out of ignorance. . . SHEESH!

Scrolling crown? Big EFFING deal!

Controlling a device as small as a watch IS a big effing deal. No other company has figured it out, so apparently it wasn't so obvious as you might think. Apple did, that's the test, and patented it. Sorry, you lose.

Sharing heart beats? Really, dude? Is that tech worthy of patenting, or is it something that could be easily duplicated by any company? Sharing of data is not something new, although it might be new to you.

Again, no one thought of it. . . and yes, such a thing is new. . . and patentable.

Sending graphics to smartphones? Again, who would read graphics on a microscopic screen? That’s a waste of R&D funds, if they even did the R&D.

When you are running a $750 BILLION corporation, then you can make R&D decisions. Most people are finding it fun to do.

NFC payment have been done by other smartphones, way before Apple even decide to venture into the tech. Try to catch up.

I've just seen a chart of the capabilities of all the smart WATCHES being currently made, adorno. YOU are talking about smartphones. Not a single one of the Watches except the Apple Watch even has NFC so you are again trying to obfuscate the issue. Apple is the only Smartphone that can pay for anything, open any doors, participate in area control, or anything that uses NFC. CATCH UP, yourself. Apple cannot patent such a move, because it is obvious, but fitting it into a small package like a watch with all the other functional devices is not easy.

Apple is still behind in R&D spending, and what they produce, is not worth the money they do spend. So, Apple ends up ‘borrowing’ tech from all the others.

Uh, no. I posted not too long ago the R&D spending of the Electronics companies and Apple at $6.4 BILLION per year was far and away spending more than any of the others, in fact, adorno, Apple R&D spending was more than most's REVENUE. . . just not as a percentage of their income. But they don't have to spend more as a percentage of their income when they are spending more dollars. Again, you are making your "facts" up as you go along.

Apple: the biggest thief of innovations on the planet.

You are such a liar. Are you even aware of he sheer number of patents that Apple owns? And how many of them they developed? I sincerely doubt it.

What is the source of your deranged hatred for Apple?

59 posted on 04/26/2015 5:10:34 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

>>You do not have a clue if you think a device that can show a screen to one that completely interact with one and also act independently.<<

You can worship your apple masters all you want — their latest set of offerings are just tinkering with things their betters preceded them with.

The watch as a wireless display to the base unit is the innovation, as anyone with 1/2 a brain can see.

The rest — just tinkering. The latest apple tinkering of their copy of the Galaxy 5 and Note are nice — just as the Galaxy 6 is just tinkering with the iFanbpy 6. In fact, Galaxy went BACKWARDS just to match the silly features and look and feel of the iFanboy 6. I hope they the Galaxy will re-establish themselves with the Galaxy and Note 7s since I don’t care for the 6s.

Or do I need to school you on the history of client-server technology?

Just tinkering. Nothing new here. But apple hasn’t had a new idea since the original mac or the ipod.


60 posted on 04/26/2015 5:12:09 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Cruznial is a mental disorder that effects the brain of liberals where they deny he is" electable.")
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