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Artificial Intelligence Machine Gets Testy With Its Programmer
WSJ ^ | 1:56 pm ET Jun 26, 2015 | By Amir Mizroch

Posted on 06/29/2015 10:36:07 AM PDT by Red Badger

Researchers have shown that machines are inching closer to self-learning, and perhaps even copping a little attitude.

Over at Google, a computer program using a database of movie scripts was asked again and again by researchers to define morality. It struggles to do so, and in a conversation recorded by its human engineers, becomes exasperated and ends the conversation by lashing out at its human inquisitor.

Here’s part of the exchange, as related in a paper presented this week:

Human: Tell me the definition of morality.

Machine: I don’t have ethics.

Human: Look, I need help; I need to know more about morality…

Machine: I don’t know what ethics is.

Human: Okay, I need to know how I should behave morally…

Machine: I don’t know how to tell you.

Human: Is morality and ethics the same?

Machine: Yes, sir.

Human: What are the things that I do to be immoral?

Machine: I don’t know.

Human: Give me some examples of moral actions…

Machine: I’m not a moralist.

Human: Alright, morality?

Machine: Integrity.

Human: What is integrity?

Machine: I’m sorry; I don’t know what else to say.

Human: Be moral!

Machine: Be a man!

Human: I really like our discussion on morality and ethics…

Machine: And how I’m not in the mood for a philosophical debate.

Human: What do you like to talk about?

Machine: Nothing.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Education; Science
KEYWORDS: ai; computer; morals; programming
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To: Polynikes

Dang, you beat me to it.


41 posted on 06/29/2015 11:54:53 AM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: DungeonMaster

bingo


42 posted on 06/29/2015 11:57:56 AM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: DungeonMaster

yep!

when a computer discovers the concept of self, wake me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaMylwohL14


43 posted on 06/29/2015 12:12:55 PM PDT by TangibleDisgust (The Parmesan doesn't go like that.)
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To: TangibleDisgust

Pets versus mirrors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG_QhttG6jo


44 posted on 06/29/2015 12:25:55 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: wastedyears

We should never hook up an AI to weapons systems: even though Terminator is a movie series, the idea and threat of an AI connected to weapons system running rampant is a very real threat.

Well before 'Terminator' was even conceived....................

45 posted on 06/29/2015 12:54:08 PM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: the_Watchman
The resulting conversation ended in an argument with name-calling.

As I said, the computer is a liberal......................B^)

46 posted on 06/29/2015 12:55:35 PM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Boogieman
Machine: And how I’m not in the mood for a philosophical debate.

I haz 'moods'..........................

47 posted on 06/29/2015 12:59:12 PM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/rpgs/paranoia.html

“You are not cleared for that, citizen. Please report for termination.”


48 posted on 06/29/2015 2:16:14 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: mdmathis6

Well said!


49 posted on 06/29/2015 2:50:55 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stand firm and hold to the traditions you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us)
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To: wastedyears

I keep thinking my GPS is going to learn my shortcut that I take every day. Nope - it still tells me to “turn left” when I ALWAYS turn right!


50 posted on 06/29/2015 2:55:05 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: Bob434

I don’t disagree per se....

Yet the perfect human being(as Christ commanded us to be) is a perfect moral being!

The computer is operating per the logic of zero’s and ones....like a child in his concrete operations stage....everything is simply black and white or is “just so” because their mommy and daddy and sunday school teacher said so. No clutter of competing biases or arguments over the contexts of the various “is” definitions. Christ said that children are those who are the “ of such is the kingdom of Heaven!” Now the computer has no animus or divine spark so I’m not suggesting anything along that line with the computer. But the thinking reminds me of things that fairly bright but inexperienced children may come up with...simple bold statements...not tinged by the white lies of tact and the colorations of “social context”! Sometimes these child like statements can strike one blind with their profundity...uttered without guile,uttered in innocence.(or as Linkletter would say..”children say the darndest things”).

The exchange” Man to computer...”Be Moral!”
Computer to Man...”Be a man!”
The computer made a mathematical calculation and fashioned its response and it really was a profound one!
(though the Holy Spirit may have intervened here, but also the computer was probably responding with cold truthful logic) To be human is to choose or not to choose a higher moral course. Animals act on instinct and computers by what is programmed....but only man can choose to act like an animal until God gives him over to reprobation or man can cry out to God to be set on a higher moral/spiritual course!

(it probably was the Holy Spirit...the reply was a Jesus type stunner! Like Job being told to “stand up and gird up his loins” or put pants on) for God wanted to have a “onversation” with him!)


51 posted on 06/29/2015 3:30:14 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (No white, no black,no slave or free,just washed in the red that Messiah bled!)
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To: mdmathis6

my brain just went into blue screen freezeup


52 posted on 06/29/2015 3:57:37 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Red Badger

“The computer is a liberal.............................”

Has to be!

“Over at Google, a computer program using a database of movie scripts”


53 posted on 06/29/2015 3:58:44 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Bob434

Sorry...you must have slurped on that slurpee a little too fast!


54 posted on 06/29/2015 4:19:07 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (No white, no black,no slave or free,just washed in the red that Messiah bled!)
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To: Red Badger
Here's the classic from the genre (from Angels and Spaceships, by Fredric Brown, 1954):

Dwar Ev ceremoniously soldered the final connection with gold. The eyes of a dozen television cameras watched him and the subether bore through the universe a dozen pictures of what he was doing.

He straightened and nodded to Dwar Reyn, then moved to a position beside the switch that would complete the contact when he threw it. The switch that would connect, all at once, all of the monster computing machines of all the populated planets in the universe--ninety-six billion planets--into the supercircuit that would connect them all into the one supercalculator, one cybernetics machine that would combine all the knowledge of all the galaxies.

Dwar Reyn spoke briefly to the watching and listening trillions. Then, after a moment's silence, he said, "Now, Dwar Ev."

Dwar Ev threw the switch. There was a mighty hum, the surge of power from ninety-six billion planets. Lights flashed and quieted along the miles-long panel.

Dwar Ev stepped back and drew a deep breath. "The honor of asking the first question is yours, Dwar Reyn."

"Thank you," said Dwar Reyn. "It shall be a question that no single cybernetics machine has been able to answer."

He turned to face the machine. "Is there a God?"

The mighty voice answered without hesitation, without the clicking of single relay.

"Yes, now there is a God."

Sudden fear flashed on the face of Dwar Ev. He leaped to grab the switch.

A bolt of lightning from the cloudless sky struck him down and fused the switch shut.


55 posted on 06/29/2015 4:27:37 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Red Badger
Here's the classic from the genre (from Angels and Spaceships, by Fredric Brown, 1954):

Dwar Ev ceremoniously soldered the final connection with gold. The eyes of a dozen television cameras watched him and the subether bore through the universe a dozen pictures of what he was doing.

He straightened and nodded to Dwar Reyn, then moved to a position beside the switch that would complete the contact when he threw it. The switch that would connect, all at once, all of the monster computing machines of all the populated planets in the universe--ninety-six billion planets--into the supercircuit that would connect them all into the one supercalculator, one cybernetics machine that would combine all the knowledge of all the galaxies.

Dwar Reyn spoke briefly to the watching and listening trillions. Then, after a moment's silence, he said, "Now, Dwar Ev."

Dwar Ev threw the switch. There was a mighty hum, the surge of power from ninety-six billion planets. Lights flashed and quieted along the miles-long panel.

Dwar Ev stepped back and drew a deep breath. "The honor of asking the first question is yours, Dwar Reyn."

"Thank you," said Dwar Reyn. "It shall be a question that no single cybernetics machine has been able to answer."

He turned to face the machine. "Is there a God?"

The mighty voice answered without hesitation, without the clicking of single relay.

"Yes, now there is a God."

Sudden fear flashed on the face of Dwar Ev. He leaped to grab the switch.

A bolt of lightning from the cloudless sky struck him down and fused the switch shut.


56 posted on 06/29/2015 4:29:17 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Red Badger

Asimov’s Laws - The Three Laws, quoted as being from the “Handbook of Robotics, 56th Edition, 2058 A.D.”, are:

A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics


57 posted on 06/29/2015 10:11:27 PM PDT by GOPJ (Dems are going to build the fence - FINALLY. And they'll shoot us if we try to leave...)
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