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Why Polls Alone Don't Show the True Leaders of the GOP Race
Newsmachete ^ | 8/24/2015 | Newsmachete

Posted on 08/25/2015 6:48:17 AM PDT by conservativejoy

Who are the leaders in this crowded race for the GOP nomination? If you look at national polls, the top three are Trump, Bush, and Carson. If you look at New Hampshire, it's Trump, Kasich, and Bush. If you look at Iowa, it's Trump, Carson, and Walker, though I don't know how proud Scott Walker can be to be third in a state that should almost be giving him a home-state advantage.

But these polls by themselves don't show who the leaders are in the race. To know the answer to that question, you have to look at all the fundamentals, not just polling but also money raised, organizational strength, and strengths of the candidate. Let's look at the major candidates one by one and you'll see what I mean.

Those who aren't:

John Kasich is number two in New Hamphire, but is just a blip on the rest of the polls. He hasn't raised much money yet, although he is very new to the race. Personality wise, he doesn't have much charisma; Jeb Bush has none either, but compared to Kasich, Jeb Bush is Tom Cruise. After Chris Christie fell through as the backup candidate for the Chamber of Commerce, Kasich has appeared to take his place. But until Kasich shows strength outside of New Hampshire, until he raises a lot of money and builds an organization, he simply isn't a major candidate.

Ben Carson is strong in many polls, but he hasn't raised much money. $11 million dollars sounds like a lot, but is a pittance compared to Jeb Bush's $100 million. Carson also has no national, fifty state organization structure. He has charisma; if he didn't he wouldn't have gotten this far. But until he raises a lot more money and builds a national organization he cannot be considered a major candidate.

Marco Rubio has a $42 million base of support, but he's been nowhere in the polls. If he can't be better than third in his home state of Florida, where he is right now, he's done.

Scott Walker used to be a major candidate but the way things are going, he's falling out of that status. Remember when he was number one in Iowa? Because it is a neighboring state, Walker has to win Iowa. Right now he is number three, behind Ben Carson, who has no organization or financing to speak of. Walker has made an incredible number of stumbles, most recently on the issue of immigration, which have cost him a lot of support. He has $26 milion dollars in the bank, which isn't nothing, but unless he does something soon to turn it around, he will not make it back to the ranks of the major players.

Those who are:

Like him or not, Jeb Bush is obviously a major candidate. Even though he is no longer ahead in any poll, the $120 million dollar man can not be discounted, as he has the backing of the Chamber of Commerce, the establishment Republicans, and probably all the hosts of Mordor. He's charisma challenged, but has a national organization, and strong establishment backing, and with that much money he is still a major player.

Donald Trump, of course is a major player, simply by virtue of being number one in all the polls. I honestly don't know if he has a national organization in place or not but I do know, given the nature of his personal wealth, that money will not be a problem for him. He is extremely charismatic and a great communicator.

And then there is Ted Cruz. Nowhere does Ted Cruz show up in the top three of any poll, but that is deceptive. Cruz has raised the most "hard cash" money of any candidate, and has tremendous supports among the grass roots and conservative base. In total he has 52 million dollars and he is running a national, 50 state campaign and has the organization to back it up. While he is not riding high in the polls now, by virtue of his financing and charisma and base of support, he is most likely to be the one to jump into the mix when one of the top three in the polls stumble.

So right now it seems to me that Trump, Bush, and Cruz are the leading candidates. The rest haven't, at least for now, demonstrated the fundamental strength to be serious candidates.


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KEYWORDS: 2016polls

1 posted on 08/25/2015 6:48:17 AM PDT by conservativejoy
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To: conservativejoy

Ted Cruz is the stealth candidate.

His weapons are truth and (I believe) GOD’s favor.

And the prayers of believers.

Oh, and he also raises money pretty well, for a stealth candidate. :-)


2 posted on 08/25/2015 6:52:23 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Nervous Tick

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Grassroots ... Grassroots ... Grassroots ...

and that does NOT include “Facebook Games” where, for example a “Ted Cruz Florida” page boasts over 2,500 members ...

... but the vast majority are OUTSIDE Florida ...

and even the Admins live in Texas ...

“Facebook Likes” and “Tweets” are as worthless as a XXXX in the wind ...

.


3 posted on 08/25/2015 6:59:55 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Nervous Tick
Cruz is the one to hate among the repube consultants. Watch when anyone brings up his name on the Sunday shows. They begin to seethe.

I think they never got over the fact that Cruz stomped their boy Cronyn bigtime.

4 posted on 08/25/2015 7:25:55 AM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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To: Slyfox

Not Cronyn, but Dewhurst.


5 posted on 08/25/2015 7:26:26 AM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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To: Slyfox
I really believe that the way things are now and if there are no unforeseen circumstances to change them that Trump will be the nominee.

Ok, why would I say such a stupid thing, after all Trump has no organization, no donors, and is hated by the press and GOP/e.

Our economy is sour, we have been lulled into a false sense of security by the fake money Obama is giving to all the unemployed and those that say they can no longer work. Food stamps have doubled, Disability has increased over 50%, true unemployment is likely approaching 50% yet everyone has money. Spending counterfeit money only works for so long. People are starting to understand the situation. Only 60% of Americans own a home. 93,000,000 Americans are unemployed. The number of Americans working is lower than in the 60’s when there were 100,0000,000 less Americans. Americans are having to sustain not only the unemployed but the 40,000,000 illegals in the country who are invading us through our porous borders.

People are starting to understand where we are. Record numbers of people are purchasing guns because they don't trust the government to protect them.

People believe Trump when he tells them he understands business and hope he will bring America back. They believe that perhaps Trump will end the Socialist spiral we have been in for the last 7 years.

So, even though Trump may not have much organization he has publicity, he does know how to get that. What Trump does not have is political experience, he needs a vice president who can work with congress and that would be Ted Cruz. After four years of Trump if the economy is turning around trump will be in his mid 70’s perhaps it will be time for Ted Cruz to take over, then finally we will have someone in the White-house who understands and revers the constitution.

I don't care much for Trump, I have nothing against him he just isn't a conservative but if it will get Cruz in the White-house I'll vote for him.

6 posted on 08/25/2015 8:18:13 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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Trump has the repube consultants and the press completely flummoxed. I am still uncomfortable with what his commitment to America really is and his knowledge of the Constitution and his willingness to uphold it correctly.

The GOPe are all in panic mode. Not that some Republican is making a dash for the door and just may win, but that he is the wrong one to do it and will not be beholden to them for his win.

All I want is someone who understands that this country is special because Our Founders made the individual person more important than a tyrant.

7 posted on 08/25/2015 8:33:57 AM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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To: Slyfox

As a general rule, we should be very interested in anything that flummoxes the media, GOPe and Dems. Trust but verify, for sure, but definitely remain interested.


8 posted on 08/25/2015 8:50:08 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump campaign ad: Trump, in his Apprentice chair, saying "America, you're hired")
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To: Nervous Tick
I will AMEN all of what you said and add:

If God be for us, who can be against us? Romans 8:31

one of my favorite scriptures.

9 posted on 08/25/2015 8:53:24 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: conservativejoy

I think Bush is in trouble unless Hillary drops out.

If there is a Hillary - Biden contest there won’t be many Dems available to cross over to the Republican primaries for Jeb.


10 posted on 08/25/2015 8:56:31 AM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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