Posted on 01/09/2016 7:35:03 AM PST by soakncider
TRUE HISTORY OF THE WAR FOR SOUTHERN INDEPENDENCE IN THIS AGE OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS there has never been a greater need and greater opportunity to refresh our understanding of what happened in America in the years 1861-1865 and start defending our Southern forebears as strongly as they ought to be defended. There is plenty of true history available to us. It is our job to make it known. All the institutions of American society, including nearly all Southern institutions and leaders, are now doing their best to separate the Confederacy off from the rest of American history and push it into one dark little corner labelled "Slavery and Treason". Being taught at every level of the educational system is the official party line that everything good that we or anyone believe about our Confederate ancestors is a myth, and by myth they mean a pack of lies that Southerners thought up to excuse their evil deeds and defeat....
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Dred Scott and the Fugitive Slave Act were already the law of the land. What else could Big Cotton want?
100% correct. Slavery or states rights, it all boiled down to money.
No. No one dropped me on my head either. - My great-great
grandfather was a Southern dirt farmer, NO SLAVES. As was
the case with the majority of Southerners! - He fought at
Shiloh & told my grandmother when she asked as a small girl
that Shiloh was a horrible, horrible mess of dead & dying
men crawling to the Bloody Pond to wash off their wounds.
She asked him if he killed anybody at Shiloh. He answered,
“Lord, Izora, I don’t see how I could have kept from it -
it was such a MESS.”
We lived close to Shiloh. My parents took me to Shiloh even
when I was little. - I’m 69 yrs. old & the Bloody Pond was
a deeper, darker blood color back then from where the rocks
in the pond were bloodstained. - It has faded over the
years; but that’s the way of war - memory fades, scars fade,
soldiers die from wounds or old age - history is rewritten
by the victors, “someone” buries the dead - and then it
happens again fueled by people eager for war - they THINK!
The right of unfettered expansion of the slave trade into the western and northwestern territories and the acknowledgement that northern states not merely tolerate it but cooperate with it..
Spare me.
I am a Son of the Confederacy, direct descendants of men who bought for both Mississippi and Tennessee.
How about you?
Absolutely! Just shows how history is so easily corrupted.
Alexander H. Stephens - Vice President of the Confederate States of America
Apu answers something like, “While it is most commonly thought that it was fought over slavery, there were many factors. The north was placing economic pressure on southern industries, and many in the south thought the federal government was overreaching and taking power away from the states.”
This is a perfect example of post-War Soutron revisionism and how it infiltrated in to the left.
Here we have the leftist writers disseminating the Lost Cause Southron argument which was taken up by the Marxists - it was all the fault of the evil capitalist industrialists who were trying to oppress and exploit the South.
That evil capitalism (Homer shakes his fist).
“Shove it with that “Southron†crap. Wars generally boil down to trying to keep or trying to accrue money and wealth (and food, water, territory, and natural resources all fall into that category).”
Karl Marx could not have said it better!
You're whatever you need to be on these threads.
You have a history of picking fights. It's been noticed. :)
As I said, you have a history of picking fights, ifinnegan..
My grandma, born in Texas in a GTT family (went from Mississippi to Hill Country after the war) always talked about ol’ Useless Grant and I remember being fascinated when she would show us the old Confederate money she still had that had been handed down.
The only things factual about history are dates, times, and in some cases, the places. What happened on those dates and times, and in those places, is subject to manipulation, corruption, and omission by journalists, politicians, lawyers, and other scoundrels.
From my own experience, Southern Americans, by and large, were and are humble, respectful, Godly, and industrious....NOT the villainous protagonists of popular American history, which is the true ‘revisionist’ version.
Maybe, but i am quite serious about the point I am making.
The only things factual about history are dates, times, and in some cases, the places. What happened on those dates and times, and in those places, is subject to manipulation, corruption, and omission by journalists, politicians, lawyers, and other scoundrels.
From my own experience, Southern Americans, by and large, were and are humble, respectful, Godly, and industrious....NOT the villainous protagonists of popular American history, which is the true ‘revisionist’ version.
Irony’s kinda lost on you, huh?
This is why transcending this world can not be done by a matter of degree - by becoming more good, more holy, more right. All of that only reinforces the cycle, keeps it in place ... although it's not wasted effort because it reduces suffering ... and a being that is suffering less has more awareness left over to actually see the fraud that suffering is.
But ultimately either suffering is renounced or not. Jesus is accepted or not. The Will and Mind are accepted but put in their place or not. It's why mass murderers can be saved in an instant ... because it's not a matter of degree. Just as good men and evil men can both be dead in an instant if each is shot in the head -> so can each be saved in an instant if he sees the truth. It's not a matter of virtue - it's a matter of seeing the truth and then getting it, and then doing what one would do next - accepting it and acting as if it's true.
But very difficult to give up the dramatic story of our lives, our greatness, our smallness, all these attributes we attach to ourselves, everything that we ever did or that happened to us - all illusion and delusion - but letting go of them, feels like death, end of the road. We think of it and .... .... we suffer ... so the final gate is guarded by the biggest manifestation of delusion itself - the suffering caused by the continued not-yet-conscious willingness to fear death, the flip side of the attachment to the manifest world, ultimately - greed for 'our own life.'
Where the Zen Buddhists are helpful is that they expose life in The World for what it is - a fraud, an illusion - they don't call it 'bad' ... they just come right out and point out that it doesn't even exist - It's not even real. There is nothing that can die, because in this world, nothing ever actually lived. Time - illusion. Distance - illusion. Space - illusion.
When all that is put down, there is still something left. There is no word for it, but we make words for it as a tool to communicate. But the word 'hammer' is not the hammer itself. You can't bang in a nail with the word 'hammer' ... and just because you have a thing you call hammer, if it is actually a marshmallow, it will not bang in a nail. So the name doesn't matter.
What's left is what's left. It is what it is. It either is what it actually is, or it isn't. Acting on what it actually is, will bring harmony and tranquility. Acting on anything different will bring chaos and resistance. To further try to force it to be what it isn't is like trying to hammer in a nail with a marshmallow. It would be funny to watch someone doing this, except that we are doing all day long ourselves, and suffering for it.
Whatever it is, this is-ness, it is free of delusion, suffering.
It can only be known after walking though the gate of the suffering of the fear of separation from identification of I with The World. No human acting from the part of himself that was built to keep himself temporally alive would be dumb enough to willingly walk through that gate without faith that this incarnation he calls 'himself' or 'herself' is an illusion, is not the real 'him' or 'her'.
The only reason God's 'ways' seem bizarre is we see Him through a deluded filter. This filter can not be eliminated through wisdom or virtue or will or good deeds.
It must be ultimately be seen for what it is - a fraud - and then shattered and discarded.
In action - it means there is no need to renounce evil and in fact that is an empty gesture because we have no direct connection to Evil. Evil is an effect, not a cause. Evil was never the culprit.
The culprit is suffering, which is our only handle by which to grab delusion in the The World. Delusion is the original sin, but it's built in, permanent. Can't change it.
We think that we must renounce Evil (deeds and thoughts) to eliminate Suffering. It's actually the other way around.
This is why I love atheists ... and was proud to be one in my teens ... they have it exactly, precisely 180 degrees backwards on precisely the ground they debate. They mistake which world is actually the fantasy. It is total, 100% unadulterated identification with a fraud. They are like theatre goers who, returning home, aren't aware not only that the movie-story is over, not real, was never real, but that they were never part of the drama. Their actions now seem psychotic, and they are, except that they believe they are in a move that is still playing.
This is the nature of what plays out and has played out on the stage of mankind, and why history reads like a million year long Halloween slasher movie.
Accepting Christ / dis identifying with the mind made world doesn't add good to one's life. It removes the delusion, and all that's left is the world that God actually created, which IS already Heaven, IS already the Garden.
But getting back to the original post ... that's the cause of War :-)
I'd say it started down hill in a hurry with post #8.
I got her all upset dissing her hero on a Trump thread. Poor baby.
Clyde N. Wilson is a paleoconservative, not a Left Marxist.
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